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deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
November 13 2009 01:47 GMT
#201
Reply to what I said otherwise for now random is only allowed if your opponent doesn't have a big problem with it and you inform them in advance.
Gaming videos for fun ~ http://www.youtube.com/user/WijLopenLos
Ftrunkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia2474 Posts
November 14 2009 04:04 GMT
#202
smbk > vst.pinder 2-1, really good matches =]
@NvPinder on twitter | Member of Gamecom Nv | http://www.clan-ta.com | http://www.youtube.com/user/ftrunkz | http://www.twitchtv.com/xghpinder
Predator_au
Profile Joined February 2009
Australia93 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-14 04:38:23
November 14 2009 04:26 GMT
#203
On November 12 2009 19:25 DancerS_au wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2009 18:28 Lurgee wrote:
I think they're referring to people being robots for not being able to adapt to random. I'd prefer to not play against terrans as it can be argued that they have an advantage over Z, but nontheless to ban an entire race from a tournament is totally ludicrous. The only people who are strongly against playing vs random seem to be against it purely because they don't want to adapt to playing vs it. This is sc, you shouldn't get to decide what your opponent does. I'm not seeing any factor that makes this tourney unique enough to require the banning of R - something which to the best of my knowledge no recent tourney has done.


adapt to random?? You mean adapt to not knowing what the hell ur going to build until you scout when your opponent already knows what he is going from The start? Why would anyone who does not play random (I.e 90% of all players) want to do that? Don't people want to see some descent games played? Your teran v zerg analogy is also a load of crap !!

Not allowing random does not dictate what race someone can play. people act like it's banning an entire race when it is not. It's only random jeez!! Go random in ur pubby 3v3 bghers if u want some fun.



sorry dancers but i disagree with both your comments.

If someone is good enough to use random which is part of the game then so be it. If others cant beat it then we should not be using comments like "dont you want a decent game" etc.

It's about givig yourself the best opportunity at beating your opponent and for some people that is random. I dont like playing against it, but if someone chooses it then good on em!

It just means that people have to variate from standard build orders they know for certain match ups. That's one of the reasons people go random, is to avoid the standard builds which give them more game time.

IN IT TO WIN IT, NOT IN IT TO MAKE PRETTY 45 MIN GAMES! ... and possibly lose.
If it bleeds, we can kill it.
Ftrunkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia2474 Posts
November 14 2009 04:31 GMT
#204
omfg, the tournament rules are in place, it would be unfair to change them now, all the random players quit fkn whining and play -_-
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Predator_au
Profile Joined February 2009
Australia93 Posts
November 14 2009 04:32 GMT
#205
On November 12 2009 18:48 iCCup.deL wrote:
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On November 12 2009 17:58 Predator_au wrote:
I cant believe us aussies are acting like farking retards!

Random is part of the game, just live with it.

PART OF THE GAME!


Fine then map pool is Old Katrina, Old Medusa, every other pro P map out there, etc. - it's part of the game.

Point is, some parts of the game are just not fun to play and if you can only have fun when your opponent doesn't know what you're playing then go play battleships. I think it is reasonable enough that prior to a match an opponent can state they will be using 'random' but will then pick a race before the game? That way both players can train for 3 MUs but without the unpleasantness of having to play really safe and boring or being cheesed a whole lot.


I dont care about maps either! I will random if you make it those maps, that way you wont know if i get Zerg, Protoss or Terran. MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
If it bleeds, we can kill it.
Predator_au
Profile Joined February 2009
Australia93 Posts
November 14 2009 04:33 GMT
#206
Dancers - Have you played X-Torpid?

Winner of you two plays ME
If it bleeds, we can kill it.
DancerS_au
Profile Joined August 2004
Australia40 Posts
November 14 2009 04:38 GMT
#207
all good pred, i understand that point of view. People want to win, not lose.

Me personally, i would rather play a standard, long game. Thats the best part of starcraft for me, playing a long ass game, even if i lose i will still enjoy it, some people wont, some people do.

But when i vs random players, i find i cannot play to my full potential against what race they end up being when compared to knowing what their race was from the start, which means its less likely to end up a nice long game.

Maybe i should get used to playing random more, but who can be bothered!!
Marine50
Profile Joined September 2007
Australia1764 Posts
November 14 2009 04:51 GMT
#208
On November 14 2009 13:38 DancerS_au wrote:
Me personally, i would rather play a standard, long game. Thats the best part of starcraft for me, playing a long ass game, even if i lose i will still enjoy it, some people wont, some people do.

But when i vs random players, i find i cannot play to my full potential against what race they end up being when compared to knowing what their race was from the start, which means its less likely to end up a nice long game.


Agree completely.
GTFO random! :D
IRIS FIGHTING!!!
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
November 15 2009 05:05 GMT
#209
I will have internet on wednesday night I think :3 I will try update binarybeast for now.
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Marine50
Profile Joined September 2007
Australia1764 Posts
November 15 2009 05:33 GMT
#210
On November 15 2009 14:05 iCCup.deL wrote:
I will have internet on wednesday night I think :3 I will try update binarybeast for now.

Should head out Californi-way. I heard there was some internet out there
IRIS FIGHTING!!!
Wretchedness
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia12 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-15 05:42:21
November 15 2009 05:41 GMT
#211
What are the rules regarding random in big competitions such as pro Korean leagues and WCG or even Iccup leagues such as BWCL? Just out of curiosity...

As far as I'm concerned it would make sense to emulate the rules used by popular competitions which have already undergone this kind of debate to establish the ideal rules for a competitive environment.

Having said that, I'll support any rules designated by the authority what ever they may be.
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8091 Posts
November 15 2009 05:41 GMT
#212
On November 15 2009 14:33 Marine50 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2009 14:05 iCCup.deL wrote:
I will have internet on wednesday night I think :3 I will try update binarybeast for now.

Should head out Californi-way. I heard there was some internet out there

LOL
oh god i watched that episode like 2 hours ago rofl
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Raiju
Profile Joined December 2007
Australia235 Posts
November 15 2009 06:29 GMT
#213
On November 15 2009 14:41 Wretchedness wrote:
What are the rules regarding random in big competitions such as pro Korean leagues and WCG or even Iccup leagues such as BWCL? Just out of curiosity...

As far as I'm concerned it would make sense to emulate the rules used by popular competitions which have already undergone this kind of debate to establish the ideal rules for a competitive environment.

Having said that, I'll support any rules designated by the authority what ever they may be.



Apparently u can random in OSL/MSL/Pro league, but you have to say ahead of schedule (week before).

In the Monthly tournament they have to qualify to get your pro gamer license (forgotten name) you have to choose a race.

WCG nfi.
Raiju
Profile Joined December 2007
Australia235 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-15 08:25:44
November 15 2009 08:24 GMT
#214
Well ive been waiting 3weeks now for my side of the bracket.

Either PerfectHydra work out ur games or advance me through to vs Playahz or smbk (dunno who won mixed reports)
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
November 15 2009 08:50 GMT
#215
PerfectHydra is able to play games now afaik, don't freewin against him yet.
sAviOr...
Raiju
Profile Joined December 2007
Australia235 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-15 09:04:20
November 15 2009 09:04 GMT
#216
Ok. but 3weeks is pretty gay. why bother signing up.
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-15 09:17:37
November 15 2009 09:14 GMT
#217
On November 15 2009 18:04 Raiju wrote:
Ok. but 3weeks is pretty gay. why bother signing up.


Exams through those 3 weeks??? Lol??

He didn't know the seeding tourney would be exactly at this time, and if he did, he wouldn't miss a SoO tourney because of it. He thought he could squeeze a few games in and his opponent though so to, and he couldn't organize it after all. Alot of possiblities.
sAviOr...
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13295 Posts
November 15 2009 11:17 GMT
#218
Anyone know -Incognito- and how I can get in touch with him?
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Raiju
Profile Joined December 2007
Australia235 Posts
November 15 2009 11:23 GMT
#219
Couldn't give a fuck Cam.

They coulda said they were unavailable instead of us sitting round holding our cocks.

"Lol?? Exams 3 weeks LOL? LOL?
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-15 11:34:01
November 15 2009 11:30 GMT
#220
On November 15 2009 20:23 Raiju wrote:
Couldn't give a fuck Cam.

They coulda said they were unavailable instead of us sitting round holding our cocks.

"Lol?? Exams 3 weeks LOL? LOL?


I'm guessing you are not old enough to worry about exams, or too old to remember.

and i wasn't holding my cock, i didnt know you were chronic with how you approach that.

Whatever i can't explain it, it's just an unlucky time for the seeding tournament, and he HAS been online, blame his opponent, not him.
sAviOr...
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