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On November 12 2009 11:02 potchip wrote: thanks for organising this del. It takes effort and time to sustain an event and I think more appreciation is required from the participants
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dancerS(P) > ttSeason(Z) 1-0 Destination dancerS(P) > ttSeason(Z) 2-0 Destination
gg's
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Are you free to play tommorow at like 7?
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Won't be free then. I may have some time on the weekend but it would be mornings. Otherwise next week
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I cant believe us aussies are acting like farking retards!
Random is part of the game, just live with it.
PART OF THE GAME!
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Meh.. its been argued alot but for me personally i prefer not playing against a random user. Doesn't mean i won't, just means i try to avoid it. I want to know what race I am up against, I want to beat someone playing their best race or best matchup against me.
Also, how is anyone a robot for picking one race? I play protoss and have heaps of build orders and never play the same match twice, how am i a robot? How can anyone say that choosing one race is boring? People have different expectations for the game of starcraft, some people play to have a bit of fun, some people play to get better, some people play to earn money. But if a tournament / league is run and its stated that no random is allowed, just deal with it, and if its not your cup of tea move on.
Random is part of the game, but it doesnt have to be apart of tournaments and leagues! If its not allowed, suck it up and choose a race! .
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I think they're referring to people being robots for not being able to adapt to random. I'd prefer to not play against terrans as it can be argued that they have an advantage over Z, but nontheless to ban an entire race from a tournament is totally ludicrous. The only people who are strongly against playing vs random seem to be against it purely because they don't want to adapt to playing vs it. This is sc, you shouldn't get to decide what your opponent does. I'm not seeing any factor that makes this tourney unique enough to require the banning of R - something which to the best of my knowledge no recent tourney has done.
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Okay, so if random is allowed all you little bitches will stfu and get over it?
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On November 12 2009 17:58 Predator_au wrote: I cant believe us aussies are acting like farking retards!
Random is part of the game, just live with it.
PART OF THE GAME!
Fine then map pool is Old Katrina, Old Medusa, every other pro P map out there, etc. - it's part of the game.
Point is, some parts of the game are just not fun to play and if you can only have fun when your opponent doesn't know what you're playing then go play battleships. I think it is reasonable enough that prior to a match an opponent can state they will be using 'random' but will then pick a race before the game? That way both players can train for 3 MUs but without the unpleasantness of having to play really safe and boring or being cheesed a whole lot.
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To clarify what I mean above - as in you enter the game lobby and you pick a race there and then the game starts. You just roll a dice 1-2 = P, 3-4 = T, 5-6 = Z whatever you wanna do there. I call it virtual random, it's like playing random in every way unless you planned to cheese your opponent every game!
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On November 12 2009 18:28 Lurgee wrote: I think they're referring to people being robots for not being able to adapt to random. I'd prefer to not play against terrans as it can be argued that they have an advantage over Z, but nontheless to ban an entire race from a tournament is totally ludicrous. The only people who are strongly against playing vs random seem to be against it purely because they don't want to adapt to playing vs it. This is sc, you shouldn't get to decide what your opponent does. I'm not seeing any factor that makes this tourney unique enough to require the banning of R - something which to the best of my knowledge no recent tourney has done.
adapt to random?? You mean adapt to not knowing what the hell ur going to build until you scout when your opponent already knows what he is going from The start? Why would anyone who does not play random (I.e 90% of all players) want to do that? Don't people want to see some descent games played? Your teran v zerg analogy is also a load of crap !!
Not allowing random does not dictate what race someone can play. people act like it's banning an entire race when it is not. It's only random jeez!! Go random in ur pubby 3v3 bghers if u want some fun.
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So i guess I should play some games..
Anyone know who Incognito is/ where I can get in touch with him?
If you're reading this PM me mate!
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We are still going on about this shit???
THE FACTS SC is a 12yr old game so its totally over analysed in strategy terms. Which means the RANDOM player has advantages EARLY GAME in areas of: - BUILD ORDER - SCOUTING - CHEESE
The advantage for the 1 RACE player is their percieved matchup knowledge, which will begin to kick in once they scout the Race, Position and Build order of their opponent.
From here the overall micro/macro skills of the players will determine the game.
WHY CHOBO'S GO RANDOM? There is 2 main reasons why ppl go random. 1. Most likely reason is because people dont understand the matchups and want an early advantage by going random. (Saying u go random for fun or some shit is a geeky cowardly way of saying u suck)
2. Someone thinks they are way better than you and want to embarass you by beating your main race with their off races.
THE VERDICT Personally, i dont give a shit if u go random. I will just call u a scared newb and destroy u. Between 2 similarly skilled players, i think its pretty even overall if one player goes Random.
So i guess at the risk of making a bunch of newbs cry, just let them go random and lose
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On November 12 2009 20:20 Raiju wrote:We are still going on about this shit??? THE FACTSSC is a 12yr old game so its totally over analysed in strategy terms. Which means the RANDOM player has advantages EARLY GAME in areas of: - BUILD ORDER - SCOUTING - CHEESE The advantage for the 1 RACE player is their percieved matchup knowledge, which will begin to kick in once they scout the Race, Position and Build order of their opponent. From here the overall micro/macro skills of the players will determine the game. WHY CHOBO'S GO RANDOM?There is 2 main reasons why ppl go random. 1. Most likely reason is because people dont understand the matchups and want an early advantage by going random. (Saying u go random for fun or some shit is a geeky cowardly way of saying u suck) 2. Someone thinks they are way better than you and want to embarass you by beating your main race with their off races. THE VERDICTPersonally, i dont give a shit if u go random. I will just call u a scared newb and destroy u. Between 2 similarly skilled players, i think its pretty even overall if one player goes Random. So i guess at the risk of making a bunch of newbs cry, just let them go random and lose 
You vastly vastly overvalue the advantage in randoming. Also whoever said that you don't like tvz because t has an advantage...are you like, B+ ++ level? Cause T really isn't that much easier when you aren't actually GOOD.
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wow didnt know there were so many little whiny girls that still play sc these days. Theres a option in the game screen called "random", if its in the game screen you should be prepared to play it, get over it pussies!
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my main is random. its selectable on the pregame screen! its there for a reason!!
its like picking Akuma
ffs akuma is awesome k?
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LOL ^ FrZ_au we basically said the same thing i didnt read that
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On November 12 2009 17:58 Predator_au wrote: I cant believe us aussies are acting like farking retards!
Random is part of the game, just live with it.
PART OF THE GAME!
Amen to this!
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Yoyo prOxi.FighT here. TL.net gay'd me so im prOxi.FighTing as of now on TL.net. TRUK! wassup mate!?
also, can koven and eK.peavey plz play your game?
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On November 12 2009 22:46 Ganfei wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2009 20:20 Raiju wrote:We are still going on about this shit??? THE FACTSSC is a 12yr old game so its totally over analysed in strategy terms. Which means the RANDOM player has advantages EARLY GAME in areas of: - BUILD ORDER - SCOUTING - CHEESE The advantage for the 1 RACE player is their percieved matchup knowledge, which will begin to kick in once they scout the Race, Position and Build order of their opponent. From here the overall micro/macro skills of the players will determine the game. WHY CHOBO'S GO RANDOM?There is 2 main reasons why ppl go random. 1. Most likely reason is because people dont understand the matchups and want an early advantage by going random. (Saying u go random for fun or some shit is a geeky cowardly way of saying u suck) 2. Someone thinks they are way better than you and want to embarass you by beating your main race with their off races. THE VERDICTPersonally, i dont give a shit if u go random. I will just call u a scared newb and destroy u. Between 2 similarly skilled players, i think its pretty even overall if one player goes Random. So i guess at the risk of making a bunch of newbs cry, just let them go random and lose  You vastly vastly overvalue the advantage in randoming. Also whoever said that you don't like tvz because t has an advantage...are you like, B+ ++ level? Cause T really isn't that much easier when you aren't actually GOOD.
You must not play against Aussies much then. What the hell is macro?
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