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Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9021 Posts
August 23 2009 11:50 GMT
#641
lol at Oz lineup.
Dice
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)926 Posts
August 23 2009 12:08 GMT
#642
By watching Killer's game today, I feel that he has a lot of potential. Good mechanic and decent decision-making. He's no Jaedong but he has the potential to become good, if not, really good. Same goes for PerfectMan. I like his extremely aggressive style but needs a lil work on micro imo. ggaemo? Spear[Shield]? Ugh.. get rid of em!!
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
August 23 2009 15:16 GMT
#643
lol
no JD no win
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
nonduc
Profile Joined May 2009
Russian Federation405 Posts
August 23 2009 15:33 GMT
#644
Amen.
티라노사저그 렉스 화이팅~!
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
August 23 2009 15:54 GMT
#645
On August 24 2009 00:16 Mykill wrote:
lol
no JD no win


Actually if OZ had just chucked HiyA in he probably would have rolled Horang2 and then hite would have nobody left (except Yarnc and was he even on the roster?) so HiyA would auto-win the 7th set (unless of course Yarnc showed up).

But no, they had to send Spear. Fail.
Don't Shoot the Penguins. | Dance, 성은, dance! | Killer FanKlub | Action sucks. | Storm Terran hwaiting.
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
August 23 2009 16:05 GMT
#646
i think oz is trying to find which of their b-team will (possibly) replace jaedong
JohnBall
Profile Joined December 2008
Brazil1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-23 16:13:20
August 23 2009 16:12 GMT
#647
Yeah, Oz lineup was pretty odd. I think it was obvious that JD was not going to play, but at least Hiya and Lomo could have won some games there.
I think this was more like a round of testing for the less known players before the vacations.
perfecting the art of five pool forever
natturner
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
342 Posts
August 23 2009 18:22 GMT
#648
lol, clearly Hwaseung OZ doesn't give a crap about winning this tournament. They didn't even send one of their best four players, although they did send PerfectMan.
This nigga done stole my bike.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
August 23 2009 18:37 GMT
#649
sigh just to think Oz paid to get Spear to help the toss line up. i dont get why they did that, considering hes lack of well everything
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
TheTeamLiquidTiger
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States627 Posts
August 23 2009 22:41 GMT
#650
OZ isn't anything without JD
Jaedong IS Oz
SlayerS_BoxeR FTW ///// Long live the Emperor
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
August 23 2009 22:50 GMT
#651
Fantasy isn't anything without Boxer/iloveoov
Now will you stop posting empty words?
Jaedong
pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
August 23 2009 22:52 GMT
#652
On August 23 2009 21:08 Dice84 wrote:
By watching Killer's game today, I feel that he has a lot of potential. Good mechanic and decent decision-making. He's no Jaedong but he has the potential to become good, if not, really good. Same goes for PerfectMan. I like his extremely aggressive style but needs a lil work on micro imo. ggaemo? Spear[Shield]? Ugh.. get rid of em!!


Yea i've watched all of killer's recent games and i get a feeling that he's somewhat good, loads of potential atleast.. don't know about Perfectman tho..

I also agree that ggaemo and Spear are some of the worst players out there, Frozean & co are bonjwas compared to them, sucks for Oz tho ;<
Jaedong! <> Team MVP <> Mouz.
AlwaysGG
Profile Joined March 2009
Taiwan952 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-24 01:49:48
August 24 2009 01:49 GMT
#653
ugh cmon leta there was no jaedong and you still couldn't all kill?

not even backho or hiya neither
Trust 神教教主 FlaSh | Believe 火心 EffOrt
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
August 24 2009 01:53 GMT
#654
Or Lomo, for what it matters.
Jaedong
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
August 24 2009 05:30 GMT
#655
On August 23 2009 21:08 Dice84 wrote:
By watching Killer's game today, I feel that he has a lot of potential. Good mechanic and decent decision-making. He's no Jaedong but he has the potential to become good, if not, really good. Same goes for PerfectMan. I like his extremely aggressive style but needs a lil work on micro imo. ggaemo? Spear[Shield]? Ugh.. get rid of em!!


I think in terms of mechanics, there's very little that separates the different tier of players. The most important difference is still their knowledge of the game, and being able to make the correct decisions in limited time based on limited data. Killer has shown that his decision-making was pretty bad. He had a bad sense of when to push an attack and when to pull back. That may be nerves, but it shows he's lacking top level judgement.

Meh
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
August 24 2009 05:39 GMT
#656
Does multitasking fall under mechanics? Because the level of multitasking varies a lot, even from S-class to A-class.
Jaedong
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
August 24 2009 05:42 GMT
#657
On August 24 2009 14:30 baubo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2009 21:08 Dice84 wrote:
By watching Killer's game today, I feel that he has a lot of potential. Good mechanic and decent decision-making. He's no Jaedong but he has the potential to become good, if not, really good. Same goes for PerfectMan. I like his extremely aggressive style but needs a lil work on micro imo. ggaemo? Spear[Shield]? Ugh.. get rid of em!!


I think in terms of mechanics, there's very little that separates the different tier of players. The most important difference is still their knowledge of the game, and being able to make the correct decisions in limited time based on limited data. Killer has shown that his decision-making was pretty bad. He had a bad sense of when to push an attack and when to pull back. That may be nerves, but it shows he's lacking top level judgement.


Really? I thought he showed pretty good decision-making in his game against Leta. It's not easy to come back and win after your main gets razed, even if you inflict some damage on your opponent to compensate. Killer did a good job of controlling the pace of the game from that point on, I felt. Nonetheless I don't claim to be a strategic genius so there could be things I missed.

In his second game, where he went all-in mutas, if anything it was his mechanics that let him down. That was a very Jaedong-like strategy and his muta micro just wasn't up to it. To me that implies that there's a very real difference in mechanical skill between Jaedong and Killer.

BTW, I had never seen Killer on screen before and at first I seriously thought he was Jaedong. The two are really similar from some angles. The kid looks like a fucking Jaedong Junior, I swear. I am definitely rooting for him from now on
May the BeSt man win.
dl2agon
Profile Joined June 2009
United States473 Posts
August 24 2009 06:05 GMT
#658
The mechanics between tiers are not as small as you think
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
August 24 2009 06:22 GMT
#659
On August 24 2009 14:42 Djabanete wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2009 14:30 baubo wrote:
On August 23 2009 21:08 Dice84 wrote:
By watching Killer's game today, I feel that he has a lot of potential. Good mechanic and decent decision-making. He's no Jaedong but he has the potential to become good, if not, really good. Same goes for PerfectMan. I like his extremely aggressive style but needs a lil work on micro imo. ggaemo? Spear[Shield]? Ugh.. get rid of em!!


I think in terms of mechanics, there's very little that separates the different tier of players. The most important difference is still their knowledge of the game, and being able to make the correct decisions in limited time based on limited data. Killer has shown that his decision-making was pretty bad. He had a bad sense of when to push an attack and when to pull back. That may be nerves, but it shows he's lacking top level judgement.


Really? I thought he showed pretty good decision-making in his game against Leta. It's not easy to come back and win after your main gets razed, even if you inflict some damage on your opponent to compensate. Killer did a good job of controlling the pace of the game from that point on, I felt. Nonetheless I don't claim to be a strategic genius so there could be things I missed.

In his second game, where he went all-in mutas, if anything it was his mechanics that let him down. That was a very Jaedong-like strategy and his muta micro just wasn't up to it. To me that implies that there's a very real difference in mechanical skill between Jaedong and Killer.


I guess I forgot the Leta game. Because I started watching his second game. His muta micro was amazing. But he never finished off the marines when he could. Only to come back and attack again when the turret defenses were in place again.
Meh
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
August 24 2009 06:32 GMT
#660
On August 24 2009 15:05 dl2agon wrote:
The mechanics between tiers are not as small as you think


In general or specifically? Sure, some players do have insane mechanics(Leta can somehow 2-port wraith zergs to death while others can't). But I don't see it in a general sense. If you watch PvP or TvT, where both players mirror each other's build, a lesser player usually macros at the same rate as the superior player.

On August 24 2009 14:39 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Does multitasking fall under mechanics? Because the level of multitasking varies a lot, even from S-class to A-class.


Multi-tasking to me seems more mental than physical. Sure, some players lack the APM to multi-task at a high level(Savior, Stork being prime examples). But when you have 300+ apm, you have the speed to multi-task.
Meh
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