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generic88
Profile Joined December 2008
United States118 Posts
July 08 2009 03:11 GMT
#41
Could this build be modified to go for a Quick Dropship? Would that ever be a good idea?
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27156 Posts
July 08 2009 03:16 GMT
#42
On a map like python, a protoss who has lost control of his natural but has a robo bay will often take the island expansion. Adding a starport and dropping that expansion quickly is a positive response. You just need to be wary about your own expansion at that point in the game.

As another above poster said, following this up with a 7 bat/medic drop as a probe raid is very very fun too
ModeratorGodfather
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51507 Posts
July 08 2009 06:21 GMT
#43
On July 08 2009 10:27 Manifesto7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
lol you can only support 2 fac / 4 rax from FE and you say 6 raxes o_o

If it's a rush that is


Can an FE build be a rush?

GTR's replay is hilariously awesome. The guy goes 3 gate goon before range, and twice runs his goon army through a mine field with no observers into tanks on colo. He then proceeds to say "wow I hate terran". Pure D level power there.


which amazes me even more that he is d+
protoss power everyone.
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
July 08 2009 06:46 GMT
#44
This build is the t equivalent of the stove.
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
July 08 2009 07:57 GMT
#45
On July 08 2009 15:21 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2009 10:27 Manifesto7 wrote:
lol you can only support 2 fac / 4 rax from FE and you say 6 raxes o_o

If it's a rush that is


Can an FE build be a rush?

GTR's replay is hilariously awesome. The guy goes 3 gate goon before range, and twice runs his goon army through a mine field with no observers into tanks on colo. He then proceeds to say "wow I hate terran". Pure D level power there.


which amazes me even more that he is d+
protoss power everyone.



oh god that makes me sick...
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
July 08 2009 08:01 GMT
#46
On July 08 2009 16:57 dekuschrub wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2009 15:21 GTR wrote:
On July 08 2009 10:27 Manifesto7 wrote:
lol you can only support 2 fac / 4 rax from FE and you say 6 raxes o_o

If it's a rush that is


Can an FE build be a rush?

GTR's replay is hilariously awesome. The guy goes 3 gate goon before range, and twice runs his goon army through a mine field with no observers into tanks on colo. He then proceeds to say "wow I hate terran". Pure D level power there.


which amazes me even more that he is d+protoss power everyone.

oh god that makes me sick...


Pretty sure most people (who have played iccup before) can get to D+ with protoss by proxy 2-gating on 2-player maps in about 3 hours.
meathook
Profile Joined December 2007
1289 Posts
July 08 2009 13:04 GMT
#47
On July 08 2009 16:57 dekuschrub wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2009 15:21 GTR wrote:
On July 08 2009 10:27 Manifesto7 wrote:
lol you can only support 2 fac / 4 rax from FE and you say 6 raxes o_o

If it's a rush that is


Can an FE build be a rush?

GTR's replay is hilariously awesome. The guy goes 3 gate goon before range, and twice runs his goon army through a mine field with no observers into tanks on colo. He then proceeds to say "wow I hate terran". Pure D level power there.


which amazes me even more that he is d+
protoss power everyone.



oh god that makes me sick...

Yeah.. he probably plays that build only. 3 gateway before expo can catch alot of terrans off guard and you dont really need to micro or anything when you play that.

But really, I am not amazed.. Unlike Terran and Zerg, the standards for Toss players are substantially lower. I have seen such fags reach C- with barely 100 apm when playing toss and doing just gay builds like that one or speed zealot rush. It is disgusting.

Loving the lack of gg from GTR in that replay. Hahaha...

On July 08 2009 09:47 Manifesto7 wrote:
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On July 07 2009 22:57 meathook wrote:
P.P.S
I remember someone telling me that you were B-level terran at one point.. what happened, Mani?


I'm afraid your person was sadly misinformed. I am, and will always be, a D+ player who hobbles over the C- line occasionally. I don't play competitively of course, I just play for fun, and all races. Maybe if I get bionic hands and play only Terran I could get to C+.

I think it was Nyovne who said that, actually. You should look into that bionic hand surgery then!
An ugly planet. A bug planet.
Stimpacked
Profile Joined June 2008
Philippines368 Posts
July 08 2009 15:24 GMT
#48
reavers/dt's could crush the build.. even good goon micro can stop it.. wtf +1 weapons that takes too long.. for me this is d-/d guide.
live and let live...
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
July 08 2009 15:25 GMT
#49
On July 08 2009 10:27 Manifesto7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
lol you can only support 2 fac / 4 rax from FE and you say 6 raxes o_o

If it's a rush that is


Can an FE build be a rush?

GTR's replay is hilariously awesome. The guy goes 3 gate goon before range, and twice runs his goon army through a mine field with no observers into tanks on colo. He then proceeds to say "wow I hate terran". Pure D level power there.


Well, if you know he's not making dts you can skip ebay and you can add the barracks way earlier than ForGG did. But then you add them before your second fact and you can only build 4 rax. This is a much faster attack (with 2-3 tanks 1 group marine 2-3 medic)

But yeah it's not the same build at all I'm sorry I'm just talking nonsense ^^
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
July 08 2009 15:26 GMT
#50
On July 09 2009 00:24 Stimpacked wrote:
reavers/dt's could crush the build.. even good goon micro can stop it.. wtf +1 weapons that takes too long.. for me this is d-/d guide.


I wouldn't say D/D- but I agree that +1 weapon / armor just takes too long and is just too expensive / not needed for an attack such as this.
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
generic88
Profile Joined December 2008
United States118 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-10 03:49:51
July 10 2009 03:45 GMT
#51
If the primary reason Bio is non-viable past early game in TvP is High Templar Psionic Storm why not transition into a 50/50 or 60/40 Mech/Bio. I know, I know, but hear me out for a second. Then play a standard Vulture/Tank game except place your MnM directly behind your Tank line. This way they would be safe from Storm and could pick apart any damaged Zealots which make it to the Tank line while simultaneously nullifying Shuttle drops (perhaps maybe also being used to snipe Observers). Yes, you'd have less Vultures and thus less mines, but in Standard play most mines are "wasted" anyway because they are destroyed by splash damage from other mines.

Visual Aide:
X = Mine
V = Vulture
T = Tank
M = MnM

X V TM
X V TM
X V TM
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27156 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-10 03:50:47
July 10 2009 03:48 GMT
#52
On July 09 2009 00:24 Stimpacked wrote:
reavers/dt's could crush the build.. even good goon micro can stop it.. wtf +1 weapons that takes too long.. for me this is d-/d guide.


Apparently your reading comprehension is D-, as I clearly state that the upgrades are in the event of a longer game, in order to keep the bionic units relevant. Nowhere does it state that you have to wait for it to finish before the first attack.

And if you had bothered to watch any of the replays, you would see how easy it is to take care of D+ reavers.
ModeratorGodfather
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27156 Posts
July 10 2009 03:49 GMT
#53
On July 10 2009 12:45 generic88 wrote:
If the primary reason Bio is non-viable past early game in TvP is High Templar Psionic Storm why not transition into a 50/50 or 60/40 Mech/Bio. I know, I know, but hear me out for a second. Then play a standard Vulture/Tank game except place your MnM directly behind your Tank line. This way they would be safe from Storm and could pick apart any damaged Zealots which made it to the Tank line while simultaneously nullifying Shuttle drops (perhaps maybe also being used to snipe Observers). Yes, you'd have less Vultures and thus less mines, but in Standard play most mines are "wasted" anyway because they are destroyed by splash damage from other mines.

Visual Aide:
X = Mine
V = Vulture
T = Tank
M = MnM

X V TM
X V TM
X V TM


Yep, absolutely. If you see the game on Colosseum that I uploaded, I make a nice transition to vultures and mines, while guarding tanks with bionic units. It works very well, especially with shuttle bombs.
ModeratorGodfather
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27156 Posts
July 10 2009 03:52 GMT
#54
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2009 09:47 Manifesto7 wrote:
On July 07 2009 22:57 meathook wrote:
P.P.S
I remember someone telling me that you were B-level terran at one point.. what happened, Mani?


I'm afraid your person was sadly misinformed. I am, and will always be, a D+ player who hobbles over the C- line occasionally. I don't play competitively of course, I just play for fun, and all races. Maybe if I get bionic hands and play only Terran I could get to C+.

I think it was Nyovne who said that, actually. You should look into that bionic hand surgery then!


Perhaps Nyvone just sees my untapped potential. B- here I come!
ModeratorGodfather
generic88
Profile Joined December 2008
United States118 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-10 03:54:34
July 10 2009 03:52 GMT
#55
Well I've been trying this and I seem to have success when my opponent has similar APM to myself (I'm around 100-110), even sometimes winning when they have 50-70 more. Ya, I know "APM don't mean squat", but it does if the guy has 200 and it isn't spam.

MnM can also snipe enemy Nexus very, very quickly, Much faster than I thought they could.
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
July 14 2009 12:57 GMT
#56
as a proud member of the bloodred iccup crowd, i approve of any strats that beat protoss! 5/5 cups of appreciation tea.
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
July 14 2009 13:12 GMT
#57
ROFL MANLIFESTO CRUSHER

awesome build, but seriously you only need BBS when in the bloodred zone.
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
July 14 2009 13:41 GMT
#58
On July 14 2009 22:12 tobi9999 wrote:
ROFL MANLIFESTO CRUSHER

awesome build, but seriously you only need BBS when in the bloodred zone.


some of usdon't like to smell when we play
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
July 14 2009 15:13 GMT
#59
On July 14 2009 22:41 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2009 22:12 tobi9999 wrote:
ROFL MANLIFESTO CRUSHER

awesome build, but seriously you only need BBS when in the bloodred zone.


some of usdon't like to smell when we play


wat
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9105 Posts
July 14 2009 20:51 GMT
#60
I like to mess around at the D level w/ my offraces. I just played a fun bio-tank game and I completely had it in the bag but I blew it

Nice guide btw.

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