EPT! [G] Stylish's FPVods [06-10 Update] - Page 14
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SilverskY
Korea (South)3086 Posts
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iloveroo
Canada294 Posts
cause i've practiced it w/ my buddy for a couple of hours and its not working, the early pressure cause each time i have 4rines,4tank,3vults(more vults being built) i always lay mines and shit while my tank is attack.. and i always get run over by his 12+ goons.. | ||
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eXigent.
Canada2419 Posts
On February 18 2009 10:36 iloveroo wrote: hm i don't think that the "TvP FE 3fact" works, unless im wrong cause i've practiced it w/ my buddy for a couple of hours and its not working, the early pressure cause each time i have 4rines,4tank,3vults(more vults being built) i always lay mines and shit while my tank is attack.. and i always get run over by his 12+ goons.. If stylish has success with it at the B+ level, then surely the reason it is not working is because of some factor you are missing. Maybe your micro is really bad, maybe you are making bad decisions. You cannot simply post that the strategy doesn't work, and not even provide a replay so people can see what you are doing wrong. How do you expect to fix your mistakes, and make the strategy work, if you don't even provide a replay to base your claims off of. I don't think you will get much help until you do. | ||
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SilverskY
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iloveroo
Canada294 Posts
cause i've been practicing this built for an hour and yeah. w/e forget my other post :3 so the "TvP FE 3fact" is it suppose to pressure him near his nutural or what ? | ||
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SilverskY
Korea (South)3086 Posts
On February 18 2009 11:10 iloveroo wrote: idk, im handicaped lol, maybe i just have to keep practicing haha cause i've been practicing this built for an hour and yeah. w/e forget my other post :3 so the "TvP FE 3fact" is it suppose to pressure him near his nutural or what ? I think I spotted your problem right there. I've been practicing the A-Yu-Min build for the last 4 days, and I still can't get the timing exactly right. | ||
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iloveroo
Canada294 Posts
.. btw what is the A-Yu_Min built ?, there's no vod for it.. :S explain plz | ||
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SilverskY
Korea (South)3086 Posts
Welcome to TL by the way. | ||
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iloveroo
Canada294 Posts
and naw like non of the vids work for me :S i watched the rep though, mms in under 7mins or something pretty sick, mines like way too late haha, but yeah. what is the A-Yu-Mi used for ? i know its used for TvZ, is it just a fast attack or what ? cause i like the EE_timing better, you catch them while the hydras are morphing in lurks etc. | ||
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SilverskY
Korea (South)3086 Posts
On February 18 2009 11:32 iloveroo wrote: thanks for the welcoming. and naw like non of the vids work for me :S i watched the rep though, mms in under 7mins or something pretty sick, mines like way too late haha, but yeah. what is the A-Yu-Mi used for ? i know its used for TvZ, is it just a fast attack or what ? cause i like the EE_timing better, you catch them while the hydras are morphing in lurks etc. Well as Stylish explains very well in his build VOD, it's a 1Rax Fast Expand. At 29 supply you expand to 4Rax, and it's a timing push. It's a counter specifically for 3 hatch builds. And you break the sunken line before the opponent's mutas pop; lurkers hatch; etc. | ||
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iloveroo
Canada294 Posts
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SilverskY
Korea (South)3086 Posts
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iloveroo
Canada294 Posts
and the a-yu-mi is for the mutas right when they pop out very smarttt xP i always get owned by those so yeah, i can't get a right time to attack before the lurks comes out or right when the mutas are made ;o but yeah, im trying to practice TvP, seems abit harder | ||
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ramen247
United States1256 Posts
On February 18 2009 11:49 iloveroo wrote: ooh coool, so the EE_timing is for the hyras before they morph into lurks and the a-yu-mi is for the mutas right when they pop out very smarttt xP i always get owned by those so yeah, i can't get a right time to attack before the lurks comes out or right when the mutas are made ;o but yeah, im trying to practice TvP, seems abit harder lol...you shouldnt play a game a certain way because you are scared of what happens after if you are trying to improve. you dont just 8 rax BBS every game cuz you are scared of mid game lmfao... __________________________________________________________________________________ btw, stylish, are you sure you have enough marines to defend against a 3 hatch speedling attack? and stylish, if zerg comes in with zerglings at certain timings when terran is very weak such as when terran is about to get medics, do you have enough marines to defend well enough and have enough marines to fend off the mutas that will inevitably come soon? and if zerg timing attacks with many speedlings before his mutas come, to kill as many marines as possible to make mutas very effective, (jaedong vs ret) , what the heck do you do? my friend has been doing many tricky zergling tactics like frequently sending a few zerglings to one side of my natural to harass scvs, and when i go to kill them with marines, my ramp to the main has fewer marines and he attacks them with the other zerglings. basically, he splits my marines up, and takes advatnage with speedlings. and lol... another annoying fucked up situation. i know the mutas are coming to my main to harass scvs or w/e. so i bring a group o rines there. he harasses them a bit. while my rines stay there, he brings his mutas to the nat and attacks with his mutas AND lings making a big mutaling force that my split army cant handle, and when i pull scvs to help out, i still lose a considerable amount of units, delaying me by a lot, making my army a lot smaller, and pretty soon, he jsut comes in with a big lurk ling force and ggs me... is this build still compatible with this situation? | ||
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Ganfei
Taiwan1439 Posts
On February 18 2009 13:33 ramen247 wrote: lol...you shouldnt play a game a certain way because you are scared of what happens after if you are trying to improve. you dont just 8 rax BBS every game cuz you are scared of mid game lmfao... __________________________________________________________________________________ btw, stylish, are you sure you have enough marines to defend against a 3 hatch speedling attack? and stylish, if zerg comes in with zerglings at certain timings when terran is very weak such as when terran is about to get medics, do you have enough marines to defend well enough and have enough marines to fend off the mutas that will inevitably come soon? and if zerg timing attacks with many speedlings before his mutas come, to kill as many marines as possible to make mutas very effective, (jaedong vs ret) , what the heck do you do? my friend has been doing many tricky zergling tactics like frequently sending a few zerglings to one side of my natural to harass scvs, and when i go to kill them with marines, my ramp to the main has fewer marines and he attacks them with the other zerglings. basically, he splits my marines up, and takes advatnage with speedlings. is this build still compatible with this situation? ... just make a bunker that covers the ramp and the CC and micro your scvs a little bit. Shouldn't b e that hard to deal with if it's just at your nat. At 9 on python that would be right under the nat CC, for example. | ||
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ramen247
United States1256 Posts
i added a new problem. would that be the same solution? | ||
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
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ramen247
United States1256 Posts
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iloveroo
Canada294 Posts
and the A-Yu-Mi is if they go 3 hatch ? | ||
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ZzZzAnG
United States109 Posts
On February 18 2009 10:36 iloveroo wrote: hm i don't think that the "TvP FE 3fact" works, unless im wrong cause i've practiced it w/ my buddy for a couple of hours and its not working, the early pressure cause each time i have 4rines,4tank,3vults(more vults being built) i always lay mines and shit while my tank is attack.. and i always get run over by his 12+ goons.. well stylish said that 2 gate goon is a good counter to 3fac strat..maybe watch them replays tht u lost in and see if your opponent went 2gate expo,and he said its made to punish protoss that takes his 3rd quick,and if he did take third and u still failed its probably your micro or timing | ||
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