EPT[Q] Why Stasis instead of Dweb PvT? - Page 7
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KwarK
United States42966 Posts
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[Azn]Nada
United States275 Posts
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poor newb
United States1879 Posts
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Person514cs
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
There was this guy that replied in the SangHo vs Fantasy match in Sin Chupung Ryeong where SangHo went double manner pylon + proxy zeals and then 2 base arbiters but Fantasy won. The guy was asking why SangHo didn't recall into the tank ball. It didn't hit him that Vessels can EMP that Arbiter easily.. -_- | ||
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RaiZ
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Just compare their times of being built. Then wait for the energy. Corsairs can be somewhat used for an all-in strategy build. And why not in later game ? Sure they're fragile, sure they're useless with no energy, but can work wonderfully when they have it. If i was random i'd have probably used them more often than queens. | ||
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KwarK
United States42966 Posts
On April 09 2009 12:14 RaiZ wrote: I don't know anything about Protoss, Terran or PvT but i do know arbiters take WAYYY more time to get 100 energy than corsairs take to get 125. ...... If you just read the topic you'd know why corsairs shouldn't be used. Going straight to the last page and adding the disclaimer that you know nothing about anything is kinda -_-. | ||
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Ethelis
United States2396 Posts
now thats just therotically in a perfect game | ||
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
On April 09 2009 12:14 RaiZ wrote: I'm not T nor P but i do know arbiters take WAYYY more time than corsairs to have all their energy up. Just compare their times of being built. Then wait for the energy. Corsairs can be somewhat used for an all-in strategy build. And why not in later game ? Sure they're fragile, sure they're useless with no energy, but can work wonderfully when they have it. If i was random i'd have probably used them more often than queens. Doing some basic math, corsairs with energy upgrades can only cast 1 dweb and it will take time for them to cast another one. Arbiters on the other hand, with 250 max energy, can cast 2 statis fields (each costs 100 energy iirc) and wait for about 50 seconds to get another 100 energy. Or they can cast a recall (150 energy) and statis (100 energy.) Plus add to that the fact that statis actually disables a part of the Terran army for just 100 energy while Dweb just creates a spot that the army can move away from, and it costs 125 energy. | ||
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nttea
Sweden4353 Posts
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
On April 09 2009 13:06 nttea wrote: remember there was a time when arbiters were rarely seen, nowadays they are much more common. Who knows about corsairs, if micro/multi continues to evolve. Jaedong uses queens so why not. Corsairs are widely compared to Arbiters seen in PvZ as far as I recall. The number of Corsairs and Arbiters depend on the match up..unless of course you're Pusan, who opted to go Arbiters one time. | ||
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xxbluejay21
United States94 Posts
d-web doesnt allow ur own units to attack inside either, so you wotn be able to use zealots. Plus it would require really good micro, and obviously they'd get goliaths. So if they did get goliaths, heres how it would work: if u sent in ur corsairs first, they'd get the d-web off, but they'd all die. if u sent in ur dragoons first, they heavy tank fire would kill all ur dragoons before u even have ur d-web down. Finally this: GOOD players spread out their tanks. It would be hard to d-web them all. So basically its dragoons and d-web vs dragoons/zealots/stasis/recall obviously the 2nd one wins | ||
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ghermination
United States2851 Posts
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Rice
United States1332 Posts
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Mamba3103
Hungary7 Posts
 ) though it would be awsome to see Corsairs in korean games ... also T just makes a few goliaths and the Corsairs are done for ... | ||
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
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RaiZ
2813 Posts
On April 09 2009 12:20 Kwark wrote: ...... If you just read the topic you'd know why corsairs shouldn't be used. Going straight to the last page and adding the disclaimer that you know nothing about anything is kinda -_-. Well i did read the entire thread before posting obv. I'm just stating the fact that this build could somewhat be used for rush if you don't have time to wait for arbiters. I mean how many corsairs do you get until the arbiter finishes ? And i didn't mention the arbiter tribunal and its templar archive prerequisite before making a single one. I didn't mean this build was viable at all, just could be used from time to time in order to surprise your opponent. Could work like ZvT queens with ensnare usage (see drone ~) And of course i know if i said that i don't know anything about p or t is kinda vague but if you want i can add that i've been playing this game for way too much time so, i do know a little though  | ||
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wwooaa
Croatia179 Posts
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LaLaBye
United States90 Posts
Is this dude to different patches or certain glitches? I'll admit I haven't seen the pushable ones in a while however here is an example of a pushable stasis unit. Notice the dragoon is doing its air humps, its still animation. Skip to 24:00 | ||
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
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