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As promised, I’m doing a couple translations off of Pgr21 (as inspired by SuperJongMan and Super 2 fac). I didn’t realize this was so short, so I’ll do another one after.
Here is the original thread:
http://www.pgr21.com/zboard4/zboard.php?id=daku&page=2&sn1=&divpage=1&sn=off&ss=on&sc=on&select_arrange=headnum&desc=asc&no=1642
Here is the translation:
This is a build that Hwasin showed us on bnet attack
In this build, the first tank comes out about 10 seconds faster than a normal FD build.
In the replay, the tank comes out at 4 minutes 9 seconds.
The build order goes like this:
9.5 supply
10 barracks
10 gas
From here, constant SCVs and get a bunch of marines like in a normal FD.
Here’s the timing from the protoss perspective: In a 1 gate build, if they got a zealot, they will be moving out of their entrance with 3 dragoons at 4:21 into the game. Thus, the 10 second faster first tank gives this rush a large advantage.
I’m everyone knows what to do after this with an FD… take an expo, micro well to push toss back into his main, mine up his natural. *translation end*
I thought this was interesting, should give some unsuspecting tosses a run for their money even if they know what’s coming… just not WHEN
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Thanks OMin, though I'm quite curious as to how much this hurts a terran's economy compared to a 12/12 or 11/11 FD. Are there any notes in the comments about this?
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thanks for the translations
keep it up it is much appreciated
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As a protoss player, I endorse this guide.
More anti-protoss guides would be nice; we need to improve our micro!
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i am hoping for a tvz next. theres gotta be an awesome full fledged tvz guide there.
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Fuck I feel so guilty for saying this, but the OP in PGR21 is followed by IMPORTANT DISCUSSIONS.
For example, to get the add-on as fast as possible, you're suppose to shift-click mineral with the scv that's going to build the factory; otherwise, it might waste valuable 2-5 seconds.
I will have time to translate in Feb (after mid-terms) but then there will be too much to translate -_-.
So please, although I (and probobly rest of TL) appreciate this, translate the follow-up discussions as well.
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Wow, 10 seconds? Geez. [no sarcasm btw]
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On December 25 2008 12:18 Seraphim wrote:
Wow, 10 seconds? Geez. [no sarcasm btw]
GG imba Terran?
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On December 25 2008 12:21 Archaic wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2008 12:18 Seraphim wrote:
Wow, 10 seconds? Geez. [no sarcasm btw] GG imba Terran?
For real, isn't being the best race in Starcraft enough for you greedy fucks?
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On December 25 2008 12:17 Wala.Revolution wrote:
Fuck I feel so guilty for saying this, but the OP in PGR21 is followed by IMPORTANT DISCUSSIONS.
For example, to get the add-on as fast as possible, you're suppose to shift-click mineral with the scv that's going to build the factory; otherwise, it might waste valuable 2-5 seconds.
I will have time to translate in Feb (after mid-terms) but then there will be too much to translate -_-.
So please, although I (and probobly rest of TL) appreciate this, translate the follow-up discussions as well.
I'm a super slow reader when it comes to Korean, I was born in cali and lived there all my life... it would take me forever to get through the discussions 
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thanks again for translating these, this is awesome
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On December 25 2008 12:35 selboN wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2008 12:21 Archaic wrote:On December 25 2008 12:18 Seraphim wrote:
Wow, 10 seconds? Geez. [no sarcasm btw] GG imba Terran? For real, isn't being the best race in Starcraft enough for you greedy fucks?
let's not turn this into a race wars thread. If it's that imbalanced, you would think to just switch races? =O
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This strategy is too weak economically. And the tank is only out 5 seconds earlier than with the standard 4.14 tank FDBuild.
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10 seconds (if executed perfectly) for a build that might cost you 2 scvs is not what I'm looking for.
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omfg so THATS what it is >_> I fucknig hate that build
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On December 25 2008 12:17 Wala.Revolution wrote:
Fuck I feel so guilty for saying this, but the OP in PGR21 is followed by IMPORTANT DISCUSSIONS.
For example, to get the add-on as fast as possible, you're suppose to shift-click mineral with the scv that's going to build the factory; otherwise, it might waste valuable 2-5 seconds.
I will have time to translate in Feb (after mid-terms) but then there will be too much to translate -_-.
So please, although I (and probobly rest of TL) appreciate this, translate the follow-up discussions as well.
I thought that you always shift-click everything but the supply depot SCV's...
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upmagic did this is some Spirit game on bluestorm, i remember it very well... artosis spoke about it.. it's not really new
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this build feels like worthless taken out of it's "context"..
I mean if one really feels like the opponent and the map is needy for a marginal faster rush then usual then yes,, but that feels like something you worry about at pro level..
For me getting the timing just right might not be happening all that often so that means like 5-10 sek gain...
hrmm.. it's just no good to me
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On December 25 2008 12:17 Wala.Revolution wrote:
Fuck I feel so guilty for saying this, but the OP in PGR21 is followed by IMPORTANT DISCUSSIONS.
For example, to get the add-on as fast as possible, you're suppose to shift-click mineral with the scv that's going to build the factory; otherwise, it might waste valuable 2-5 seconds.
I will have time to translate in Feb (after mid-terms) but then there will be too much to translate -_-.
So please, although I (and probobly rest of TL) appreciate this, translate the follow-up discussions as well.
wait when my scv is building my factory, i click on my scv ( green circle) and then i press shift + left click on mineral patch nothing seems to happen, nor does anything happens when i right clic. could u explain please
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