EPT[Q] Raising APM - Page 3
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Jonoman92
United States9107 Posts
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Durak
Canada3685 Posts
On September 06 2008 19:32 Ki_Do wrote: + Show Spoiler + look at the things jaedong is doing all the time, it will give u an idea of how zerg apm plays That was awesome, thanks a lot. Watching that makes me envious of Jaedong because he makes it look easy. | ||
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a p p ! e
Canada11 Posts
i have always played with micro intentions foremost with an average of about 340APM in more recent games; this drops with a downwards slope if you analyze the graph on 'flat', and drops substantially as late game nears. in those cases the APM could drop to 270 or less. i have to agree that knowing your next step (to take) through raw experience or an intuition for timing could prevent a lot of these drops in APM, or performance in some regards--i wouldn't doubt it if my eapm turned out to be low 200 or mid 100's it (watching fpvod) simply gives me the idea that macro comes first for many reasons. because atleast you have a new set of units to micro with at the end of a battle ^ ^;; | ||
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BlackStar
Netherlands3029 Posts
On September 06 2008 18:10 Zoler wrote: This is a good way to raise apm: Play vs computer and play as fucking fast as you can, spam everywhere. As many games as you want (I did like 5 or something). It teaches you how fast you really can be and you will get faster. The rules: Keep minerals below 500 and be over 300 apm the whole time (get an apm meter for this). Just keep one hotkey pressed down. Makes your APM go sky high. Then when it becomes a habit your APM while playing will also be off the charts. | ||
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MiniRoman
Canada3953 Posts
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a p p ! e
Canada11 Posts
On September 06 2008 18:10 Zoler wrote: This is a good way to raise apm: Play vs computer and play as fucking fast as you can, spam everywhere. As many games as you want (I did like 5 or something). It teaches you how fast you really can be and you will get faster. The rules: Keep minerals below 500 and be over 300 apm the whole time (get an apm meter for this). I didn't think it would change very much but I actually raised my APM from 180 to 220-240 :D here's where i disagree though there are actions that are given more priority compared to some others that you'll be taking some obvious ones have to do with proper building arrangement and the timing of your tech i've tried that method too, ha ha but it seemed to condition me to forget timings and overlook details. i'm sorry to use myself as an example all the time, and i'll try to look to other ways of expression, lollll . . . i'm sure most of you have your game plans refined and practiced enough to be able to spam for practice and still manage to do everything you want to do (but accomplishing more and more with each game >; ) ) my point is though, i don't recommend this style of practice for newer players, even if it feels fun | ||
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Stimpacked
Philippines368 Posts
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EleanorRIgby
Canada3923 Posts
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Not_Computer
Canada2277 Posts
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yoinkity
Korea (South)43 Posts
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kpcrew
Korea (South)1071 Posts
like use lost temple, put a probe at the top left vs an enemy zealot and see how many probes die before u can make a base and kill a computer. that will get your apm up very high, it takes at least 200 apm to maintain your base and produce units, while moving that one worker around constantly | ||
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TeNken.1
United States226 Posts
On September 07 2008 05:32 EleanorRIgby wrote: i completely disagree with these idiots syaing play vs a comp and spam ur shitter off. This will ONLY improve your spam. 120apm is a plateau for pretty much everyone and it takes awhile to surpass it, the main reason why u cant surpase it yet is because you dont have all the hotkeys etched in your brain and are not use to regular hot keys and frequently using them. Just try and use hotkeys as much as possilbe, that should be your goal not just clicking as fast as u fucking can rofl I agree that mastering the hotkeys is important, but it seems like you don't really understand what I or anyone else was saying about spam. The point isn't to simply to spam all game so you can open up bwchart and jack off to your 300 apm performance - the point is to increase your natural gamespeed so that as you gain more experience you will start applying that additional apm to more useful actions. | ||
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shavingcream66
United States1219 Posts
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CommanderFluffy
Taiwan1059 Posts
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BlackStar
Netherlands3029 Posts
On September 07 2008 12:17 TeNken.1 wrote: I agree that mastering the hotkeys is important, but it seems like you don't really understand what I or anyone else was saying about spam. The point isn't to simply to spam all game so you can open up bwchart and jack off to your 300 apm performance - the point is to increase your natural gamespeed so that as you gain more experience you will start applying that additional apm to more useful actions. Spamming doesn't increase your natural gaming speed. I think you miss the point. I think this whole theory is based on accidentally increasing your playing speed by actually focusing on spamming. You should practice what needs to be practiced and single out that and focus on that. Spamming isn't part of that. On September 07 2008 10:35 kpcrew wrote: there are maps that u can use to improve your apm like use lost temple, put a probe at the top left vs an enemy zealot and see how many probes die before u can make a base and kill a computer. I already posted a Python version. But you need to add a computer if you want that. Otherwise you can just 13cc/nexus and max out asap. | ||
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freelander
Hungary4707 Posts
On September 06 2008 21:46 ZerG~LegenD wrote: Have a nice read. Speed is freedom. Freedom to pick any build. Freedom to focus on strategy. Freedom to play the game the way you want to. Speed is a Starcraft player's wings. His pathway to the skies. Without speed, you're a kiwi! beautiful. | ||
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BlasiuS
United States2405 Posts
On September 06 2008 14:00 BlackStar wrote: http://77.251.196.241:200/Python_Multitask_Free.scx I'd just like to say this map is a great way to improve both your multitask ability and your apm ability, in a very NON-artificial way. Play this map until you can kill the pylon with only 1 or 2 scv kills. Is there a version of this map that adds actual CPU opponents to the game? As it is, it's a great way to multitask while practicing your opening BO, but I'd like something to force me to actually micro/macro while multitasking as well. | ||
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Eatme
Switzerland3919 Posts
As to the topic, I had a roof around 200 that I just could not pass. Then after a break for a few weeks I came back and had raised my average (as in trying to play good/serious) apm by around 40 and thus in some games having above 200 once in a while. I have no idea why/how this happend. | ||
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SirGlinG
Sweden933 Posts
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
On September 07 2008 05:32 EleanorRIgby wrote: i completely disagree with these idiots syaing play vs a comp and spam ur shitter off. This will ONLY improve your spam. 120apm is a plateau for pretty much everyone and it takes awhile to surpass it, the main reason why u cant surpase it yet is because you dont have all the hotkeys etched in your brain and are not use to regular hot keys and frequently using them. Just try and use hotkeys as much as possilbe, that should be your goal not just clicking as fast as u fucking can rofl I got from 180 apm to 220 and my macro almost got flawless compared to my macro before? Often when I played before I would get to 1000 mineral middle game and now I cant even go over 300  | ||
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