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Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
March 07 2008 09:27 GMT
#21
make block if you aren't making enough marines/scout.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4140 Posts
March 07 2008 11:05 GMT
#22
http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=42920 This thread is extremely helpful if u choose not to wall
Ars][HuGE
Profile Joined June 2009
Mexico2 Posts
June 15 2009 19:33 GMT
#23
bunker and vulture. ^^
5000777
SoulMarine
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States586 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-15 19:57:55
June 15 2009 19:55 GMT
#24
First post, already a damn bump. GL.
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MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
June 15 2009 20:00 GMT
#25
Guys a winner for sure. Good advice, great bump.
Nak Allstar.
KO_SharpMind
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada277 Posts
June 15 2009 20:24 GMT
#26
hm.. thanks for the bump it was interesting to read everything that was on the first page
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Firestonezz
Profile Joined June 2009
United States17 Posts
June 15 2009 20:29 GMT
#27
If you scout him and don't see a core, build a bunker.
Other than that, good building placement (barracks next to cc), and good micro can help fend off 1 zealot/probe harass.
Bebop Berserker
Profile Joined April 2009
United States246 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-15 21:20:43
June 15 2009 21:20 GMT
#28
On March 07 2008 08:36 GeneralStan wrote:
A bunker is indeed an efficient way to counter. If he brings more than 3 zealots, just make sure to assign three or four SCVs to repairing the bunker.

Building a bunker isn't something you want to do, but losing out on 100 minerals sure as hell beats dropping a game because of zealot pressure.


When deciding of to build a bunker ask yourself: Who will come up ahead if neither of us loses any units(after you build bunker)? In zealot rush with 2 gates and 3 zealots toss delays his tech by so much that you can get speed and mine vultures and harass like crazy(or just take your advantage and expand)
Whatever happens, happens.
SoulMarine
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States586 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-15 21:29:22
June 15 2009 21:28 GMT
#29
On June 16 2009 06:20 Bebop Berserker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2008 08:36 GeneralStan wrote:
A bunker is indeed an efficient way to counter. If he brings more than 3 zealots, just make sure to assign three or four SCVs to repairing the bunker.

Building a bunker isn't something you want to do, but losing out on 100 minerals sure as hell beats dropping a game because of zealot pressure.


When deciding of to build a bunker ask yourself: Who will come up ahead if neither of us loses any units(after you build bunker)? In zealot rush with 2 gates and 3 zealots toss delays his tech by so much that you can get speed and mine vultures and harass like crazy(or just take your advantage and expand)



Well , if you don't make a bunker but lose the game , whats the point?
Also, it won't delay his tech all that much. It's fairly easy to throw up a Core and Gas ..
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Bebop Berserker
Profile Joined April 2009
United States246 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-15 21:37:47
June 15 2009 21:37 GMT
#30
On June 16 2009 06:28 SoulMarine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2009 06:20 Bebop Berserker wrote:
On March 07 2008 08:36 GeneralStan wrote:
A bunker is indeed an efficient way to counter. If he brings more than 3 zealots, just make sure to assign three or four SCVs to repairing the bunker.

Building a bunker isn't something you want to do, but losing out on 100 minerals sure as hell beats dropping a game because of zealot pressure.


When deciding of to build a bunker ask yourself: Who will come up ahead if neither of us loses any units(after you build bunker)? In zealot rush with 2 gates and 3 zealots toss delays his tech by so much that you can get speed and mine vultures and harass like crazy(or just take your advantage and expand)



Well , if you don't make a bunker but lose the game , whats the point?
Also, it won't delay his tech all that much. It's fairly easy to throw up a Core and Gas ..



Ummmm... he JUST spent 600 minerals instead of 150 and probably cute a probe or two. You on the other hand have 4 marines and a bunker(300 minerals). You have to be retarded if you think protoss isn't quite far behind. Sure its easy to put up a core and gas, but it is VERY delayed. He wont have obs out forever and thats if he goes straight for them(Not to mention expanding and getting goon range.) As you can see toss needs to do 3 things at once while terran can still skip an ebay for a bit(mines).
Whatever happens, happens.
IceCube
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Croatia1403 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-15 22:15:19
June 15 2009 22:14 GMT
#31
Every failed tactic including this one will send opponent behind. How far behind all depends on yours and yours opponents skill.
Forever Vulture.. :(
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
June 15 2009 22:19 GMT
#32
On June 16 2009 04:33 Ars][HuGE wrote:
bunker and vulture. ^^


what......................? first post.....?
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
genryou
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia390 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-15 23:39:29
June 15 2009 23:38 GMT
#33
maybe the BUMP was a good thing after all because i got something to ask after reading this topic.

In one of those post, this guy said "if toss goes 2 gates and you manage to defend agaisnt the zealot rush, then you are basically won."

what does basically won mean? because its just an early game

another example

Canata vs some protoss, the toss goes 2 shuttle, attempt to drop, Canata's wraith destroyed both shuttle.

and in his interview, Canata said "when i have destroyed the shuttle, i think i have won"

does destroying 2 shuttle + units in it have that much of an advantage? that he think he have already won?



I, Challenge Everything
Firestonezz
Profile Joined June 2009
United States17 Posts
June 16 2009 00:39 GMT
#34
On June 16 2009 08:38 genryou wrote:
maybe the BUMP was a good thing after all because i got something to ask after reading this topic.

In one of those post, this guy said "if toss goes 2 gates and you manage to defend agaisnt the zealot rush, then you are basically won."

what does basically won mean? because its just an early game

another example

Canata vs some protoss, the toss goes 2 shuttle, attempt to drop, Canata's wraith destroyed both shuttle.

and in his interview, Canata said "when i have destroyed the shuttle, i think i have won"

does destroying 2 shuttle + units in it have that much of an advantage? that he think he have already won?




Depends.
What was in those shuttles?
How early in game?
And equal bases/army?
foppa
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada451 Posts
June 16 2009 00:53 GMT
#35
make a wall
i can take you
_Air_
Profile Joined December 2008
United States146 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-17 01:12:06
June 17 2009 01:11 GMT
#36
On June 16 2009 08:38 genryou wrote:
maybe the BUMP was a good thing after all because i got something to ask after reading this topic.

In one of those post, this guy said "if toss goes 2 gates and you manage to defend agaisnt the zealot rush, then you are basically won."

what does basically won mean? because its just an early game

another example

Canata vs some protoss, the toss goes 2 shuttle, attempt to drop, Canata's wraith destroyed both shuttle.

and in his interview, Canata said "when i have destroyed the shuttle, i think i have won"

does destroying 2 shuttle + units in it have that much of an advantage? that he think he have already won?





If that protoss had reavers in it, then yes he won.

A simple way to explain it is if both terran and protoss play standard, then they will have an equal army. Protoss can quick tech to reaver if he wishes instead of playing normal. This will reduce his army size, but if he manages to get enough SCV / unit kills he can disrupt and put his opponent far enough behind that it was worth it.

But, if he loses those units without doing any damage, then hes going to be behind. Make sense?
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