Someone wanna explain this?

Plexa

Aotearoa39261 Posts

July 16 2007 22:14 GMT

So yea, i was observing this game the other day- half asleep mind you, and then i notice 2 zealots race across the ground like, insanely faster than usual. I;m kinda confused, watch the rep and low and behold 2 zealots really did run across the map at a super fast speed.

Quite bizarre o.O;
Here (you will find it, just look) or Here
Occurs just after 16mins (after the units come down from the ramp)

Myxomatosis

United States2392 Posts

July 16 2007 22:19 GMT

haha, I'm pretty sure this is a known, albeit rare, bug. Haven't seen this in a while though!

Locke.

Israel562 Posts

July 16 2007 22:20 GMT

you are seeing things. too much SC

minus_human

4784 Posts

July 16 2007 22:22 GMT

It is a known bug - but it's so incredibly rare most veterans don't even know about it

I had the luck of finding out about it from some crappy newb thread on ggnet

minus_human

4784 Posts

July 16 2007 22:23 GMT

I can't login. I need an account. Couldn't you fix this pls? I'm really curious to see it

NonY

8751 Posts

July 16 2007 22:24 GMT

i've spent hours trying to reproduce it so that i could build rush strategies around it, but to no avail

hydras also do it

minus_human

4784 Posts

July 16 2007 22:25 GMT

Edit: nevermind I got around it

SayaSP

Laos5494 Posts

July 16 2007 22:41 GMT

On July 17 2007 07:24 NonY[rC] wrote:
i've spent hours trying to reproduce it so that i could build rush strategies around it, but to no avail

hydras also do it

lolz

LeoTheLion

China958 Posts

July 16 2007 22:49 GMT

how does the bug work? random?

Zanno

United States1484 Posts

July 16 2007 23:31 GMT

#10

this happened to me once on hamachi, some stimpacked marines tried to run up a ramp blocked by goons and ended up running back and forth insanely fast, then there was a brief drop screen and they glitched through the goons (i assume they were running so fast they clipped straight through their collision box). was the game played on hamachi? my best guess is that it's caused by some sort of network desync trying to sort itself out

Naib

Hungary4904 Posts

July 16 2007 23:40 GMT

#11

I must be lucky or something, but I've had this bug in 3 games during my playing "career"

It's quite fun, first time it happened I didn't know it existed and I was like "Hey where did those 2 zlots go...they were like here a second ago, and now they're across the map?" Then I checked the minimap and noticed they were moving so fast, I could barely catch them to see wtf is happening

stack

Canada348 Posts

July 17 2007 00:29 GMT

#12

yea i have a tvp where the p has 2 zeals fly around mid for a sec

I-Emerge

United States435 Posts

July 17 2007 00:30 GMT

#13

Well...

I Had my lurks do this on luna just last month I think. Also in late winter in a Nex D game I saw someones vessel shotting around the map so fast I could barely see it. I stopped everything in awe of the speed I saw from the vessel. I have seen many more units do this bug. I wonder how it is done. The guy with the vessel seemd to know how to do it since he was not shocked and didn't type anythiing.

---I-Emerge

bp1696

United States288 Posts

July 17 2007 00:36 GMT

#14

Obviously, these are veteran SC units who, through the trials of countless battles and wars, have honed their reflexes and agility to exceed the petty speed of the normal recruit.

[jOyO]

United States920 Posts

July 17 2007 00:52 GMT

#15

uhhhh new units every game TT

Chill

Calgary26003 Posts

July 17 2007 02:07 GMT

#16

On July 17 2007 07:24 NonY[rC] wrote:
i've spent hours trying to reproduce it so that i could build rush strategies around it, but to no avail

hydras also do it

rofl that would be so good.

Unfortunately they only seem to do it when they've gotten jammed up and lost ground, then they break even by turbo running. I've never seen a Hydra or Zeal just rocket boost forward for no reason.

Scorpion

United States1974 Posts

July 17 2007 02:33 GMT

#17

It happened to me once on RoV. My zealots were heading to the middle of the map, and two of them got stuck.

They would try getting out of each others way, but couldn't. So, I just stayed watching them, seeing how long they would be stuck like that.

Then, they literally sped across the map.

I was like O_O!

oddeye

Canada716 Posts

July 17 2007 03:07 GMT

#18

Happened at least 2-3 time, I even have a replay of a lurker doing it somewhere

.kaz

1963 Posts

July 17 2007 04:06 GMT

#19

If you watch the two zealots on slowest you can see that they are both in different groups, the one on the bottom in the top group, and the one on the top in the bottom group. The two groups were told to go to top and bottom so the zealots tried to go to their positions but ran directly into each other, being perfectly matched up and trying to get around each other they probably sped up a little to prevent things like this from happening, but instead either zealot going around the other, they both tried to do it at the same time so they ran to the doodad on the left and turned around and ran all the way to the cliff on the right, which had a small difference in surface so the zealots broke apart and headed to the right spots at the normal speed.

AmorVincitOmnia

Kenya3846 Posts

July 17 2007 04:23 GMT

#20

this happens to me all the time with lots and rines.

paper

13196 Posts

July 17 2007 04:56 GMT

#21

it happens to me a lot when i patrol two or more ground units ;D

PhilGood2DaY

Germany7424 Posts

July 17 2007 05:51 GMT

#22

On July 17 2007 13:23 AmorVincitOmnia wrote:
this happens to me all the time with lots and rines.

start gambling

HypersonicEspo

United States74 Posts

July 17 2007 09:32 GMT

#23

Pros probably only see it like 5 times. So yeah its pretty rare.

CustomXSpunjah

United States1093 Posts

July 17 2007 11:01 GMT

#24

if you ever play the ums map snipers it seems to happen alot ot me when my ghost gets pinned behind objects going back and forth and ocne he breaks free..he triples his pace

fuglyfrog

United States521 Posts

July 17 2007 13:47 GMT

#25

I tried to do it and did it like 6 times. But I can't get the technique right and have to try a lot before I can get it :/

CustomXSpunjah

United States1093 Posts

July 17 2007 15:19 GMT

#26

it really doesnt help you get across the map faster because your wasting so much time stuck behind the object, your essentially covering the same amount of ground in the same amount of time

Konni

Germany3044 Posts

July 17 2007 15:35 GMT

#27

On July 17 2007 18:32 HypersonicEspo wrote:
Pros probably only see it like 5 times. So yeah its pretty rare.

ohhh i should have read the magic newspaper of randomness first

SpiritoftheTunA

United States20903 Posts

July 17 2007 16:15 GMT

#28

I saw it today!

My friend's zeals ran from 1 to 11 in like a second on R-Point.

He didn't notice though >>;;

Dave[9]

United States2365 Posts

July 17 2007 16:17 GMT

#29

patch 1.15 ftl once again ;( hope they fix these bugs soon..

Shauni

4077 Posts

July 17 2007 16:51 GMT

#30

How can it happen to you all the time... I've must have played and watched thousands of games and I've only seen it ONCE.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=43831

There was my topic about it. Link to rep doesn't work so nevermind.

HappyFeetO_O

China350 Posts

July 17 2007 16:53 GMT

#31

Because it doesn't happen to him all the time, he just said it did for no reason, or maybe some sort of petty bragging, I don't know. It obviously can't happen to anyone all the time unless he can somehow duplicate it.

NovaTheFeared

United States7232 Posts

July 17 2007 17:15 GMT

#32

I've played 10k++ games and it's happened to me only one time. 2 of my lurks shot past a small group of mm and into his main

SoDrunk

United Kingdom291 Posts

July 17 2007 18:54 GMT

#33

I've seen it happen a fair few times but probably not for a few years now. I think it pretty much always happened when units got stuck on each other trying to pass and then hit the NOS.

Brutalisk

794 Posts

July 17 2007 19:48 GMT

#34

Wow, never heard of that bug or seen it. I thought I knew them all already.

ShabZzoY!

Great Britain760 Posts

July 17 2007 19:49 GMT

#35

On July 18 2007 01:17 Dave[9] wrote:
patch 1.15 ftl once again ;( hope they fix these bugs soon..

Firstly this bug has been here forever and secondly its probably the least gamechanging bug ever because it cant be reproduced

taktak

91 Posts

July 17 2007 20:14 GMT

#36

and its just like one already said to resync the game, the units seem to be stuck at your client but not on the other player/players, they are just as long sped up unit they are at the position they are on the other player

Jyvblamo

Canada13788 Posts

July 17 2007 23:40 GMT

#37

I've seen this happen in a pro-game with Savior.

Also happens quite often in UMS maps.

CharlieMurphy

United States22895 Posts

July 18 2007 17:09 GMT

#38

There wa a UMS map specifically designed to recreate the "tango" bug with most any units. basically you get the 2 units to run into each other and "tango" or "dance" back and forth trying to get passed each other. But they end up shooting off at high speed.

A couple other related glitches are when this happens on a ramp and the units just get stuck on the ramp in an infinite jumble trying to escape.

Another bug I had with lurkers a few times when I burrow them they half burrow or just hold position above ground and fire as if they were fully under ground. The shitty thing though is that you don't need detection to hit them.

Is there a list of bugs somewhere that everyone can send to blizzard to fix?

Specifically the download ## glitch, and the black game join list hang screen, and the glitch that makes units freeze when you issue to many commands (this glitch happens to me like every game that I use lings and try to surround units).

PS- rep link here:
http://www.battlereports.com/viewreplays.php?replaynum=32448

evanthebouncy!

United States12796 Posts

July 18 2007 19:32 GMT

#39

AI Lurk D?

I'll try to duplicate the bug, brb

evanthebouncy!

United States12796 Posts

July 18 2007 20:30 GMT

#40

Bug duplicated with success. A simple map. Look on minimap. When you see a green dot shoots up/down, those are the insane zealots.
I feel like Rutherford and his gold foil, i really do. <3

Replay:
http://www.battlereports.com/viewreplays.php?replaynum=32452
Map:
http://www.box.net/shared/vnuej0pobn

Good day! I'm off to bed, sun is almost up TT

evanthebouncy!

United States12796 Posts

July 18 2007 20:36 GMT

#41

BTW:
as you can see this bug rarely happens, few in a thousand collisions in the map. So the useabilities of this bug is unlikely.

However the cause of this bug is that SC has this acceleration function, either a bug or intended. When units stuck trying to pass each other, they will move faster in order to go to the other side quicker. Sometimes they mirror each other's movements and the result is them not passing each other, but continue to travel at the accelerated speed in the direction that is perpenticular with their intended path.

So yaeh... if you want to use this bug in real game... good luck ramming zealots into each other and hope they shoots off in the right direction in about a thousand collisions.

Owl

145 Posts

July 18 2007 21:10 GMT

#42

I didnt watch reps but my hydras do it a lot

WhatisProtoss

Korea (South)2325 Posts

July 18 2007 21:17 GMT

#43

This has happened to me many times when I first started out as a money-map player.

It always happens when I have a big group of zealots bunched together or patrolling a horizontal area. Then, all of a sudden, a couple zealots will run down the map super fast. It's weird.

A large group of hydralisks does the same trick. I might have seen it with marines, not sure.

CustomXSpunjah

United States1093 Posts

July 19 2007 13:54 GMT

#44

marines have a tougher time doing it considering that they move at such a slow pace they seem to get "past" eachother more often than zealots and hydras, try doing that experiment with reavers im sure it would be quite entertaining