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cichli
Sweden84 Posts
So far, the best I've managed is something along the lines of: 1 a 2 a 3 a 4 a 5 a 6 a P T R T M T I T I T I T Where P=Pinkie, T=Thumb, R=Ring finger, M=middle finger, I=Index finger. This sort of works I guess but it just feels so unnatural and suboptimal. Is there a better way? I'd be very interested if you would elaborate on which fingering techniques you use in SC, for 1a2a3a... and other useful combinations as well | ||
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alpskomleko
Slovenia950 Posts
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Cloud
Sexico5880 Posts
M R M R I R I R I R I R | ||
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BlueRoyaL
United States2493 Posts
On November 28 2006 05:09 Cloud wrote: 1 a 2 a 3 a 4 a 5 a 6 a M R M R I R I R I R I R perfect. | ||
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Piste
6183 Posts
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
On November 28 2006 05:11 Piste wrote: The faster you finger the better. thats why im surprised there aren't more girl programmers..... | ||
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joohyunee
Korea (South)1087 Posts
On November 28 2006 05:09 Cloud wrote: 1 a 2 a 3 a 4 a 5 a 6 a M R M R I R I R I R I R | ||
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Alborz
Canada1551 Posts
On November 28 2006 05:09 Cloud wrote: 1 a 2 a 3 a 4 a 5 a 6 a M R M R I R I R I R I R | ||
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sataNik[pG]
Greece722 Posts
my R finger is almost paralyzed :o | ||
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BlueRoyaL
United States2493 Posts
On November 28 2006 05:12 Kennigit wrote: thats why im surprised there aren't more girl programmers..... i know honestly if you take that seriously does that meann progamers finger themselves? - _-;;; in the..... | ||
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TaDa1.
655 Posts
a = R 1 2 3 R M I if u use pinky remember it's very weak. | ||
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wXs.Havok
Argentina529 Posts
wait 1a2a3a4a5a oh yeah just like the M R M R etc post. | ||
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LeoTheLion
China958 Posts
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SteelString
446 Posts
Yes, one second difference CAN help and maybe even win an attack, especially zvt, but practicing it and asking advice on doing it so you can get it 0.3 seconds faster isn't gonna help your game much -.,- That being said, Cloud is correct. | ||
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exalted
United States3612 Posts
In piano fingering notation: 45 45 35 25 25 25 25 25 25 25 25 | ||
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Cedo32
United States6 Posts
M I I M I M I M I P I P I reposition my hand after 1a, but it's still fast. Does anyone do this? | ||
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SchOOl_VicTIm
Greece2394 Posts
I T I T I T I P I P I P I P I P I P | ||
Smurg
Australia3818 Posts
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SteelString
446 Posts
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
T T T T T T T T R T R T R P R P R P R P | ||
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davidgurt
United States1355 Posts
http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=45353 http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=42579 http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=43702 | ||
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GMer
Canada122 Posts
u get 1a2a3a4a5a56 1a2a3a4a5a 1a2a3a4a5a6a1a2a3a4a5a6a12a2a3a4a5a6a 1a2a3a4a5aa6 (and as for those who bash apm and fingering etc... just play the damn game please.) | ||
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Leath
Canada1724 Posts
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Last Romantic
United States20661 Posts
rpmpmpipipipip etc etc. | ||
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Knickknack
United States1187 Posts
On November 28 2006 09:01 davidgurt wrote: Not this again. -__- http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=45353 http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=42579 http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=43702 Yea. Like I've mentioned before thumb tends to be better if your keyboard is on a lower level then your mouse. But then ctrling can be a pain as you typically will use thumb knuckle. Leg recommended and I agree with: RR MR IR, then switch over to pinkey index when you want and then thumb index if wanted. Ctrl with palm/pinkey. Why not middle for 1? Well perhaps if you use only indexmiddle for keys then sure. But for people who use 3finers index is over 1 anyway, so shifing hand position for middle over 1 takes time and is uncomfortable. | ||
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WhatisProtoss
Korea (South)2325 Posts
On November 28 2006 05:09 Cloud wrote: 1 a 2 a 3 a 4 a 5 a 6 a M R M R I R I R I R I R Yeah. Best way. | ||
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davidgurt
United States1355 Posts
Interesting, I like using R instead of M and P instead of R: R P R P M P I P I P I P I P | ||
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TehKris
Norway322 Posts
1a RR 2a MR 3a IR* 4a IR 5a IR 6a-9a^^ IP *You might use MR on this. (The firt letter is for the number, second is for a). PS: I can write more than 500 letters a minute on a keyboard, and this setup is by far the fastest possible way (with normal positions of your hands) to do this. | ||
Chill
Calgary25997 Posts
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cichli
Sweden84 Posts
Anyway, thanks for all the replies! I'll try out the fingerings you suggested and see if I can find one that suits my hands. There are 32767 more important things I should probably focus on instead, that's absolutely right. I don't expect that having the optimal fingering is going to win me any games, I'd just like to get it right from the beginning, because I don't want to be stuck unlearning too many bad habits. Thanks for pointing out though, especially to the guy who mentioned that I should rather focus on timing the attacks so that they arrive to the front simultaneously, that was really helpful to me  | ||
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WastedYouth
United States563 Posts
r p m p m p i p i p ftw | ||
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funkie
Venezuela9376 Posts
On November 28 2006 05:09 Cloud wrote: 1 a 2 a 3 a 4 a 5 a 6 a M R M R I R I R I R I R 1 a 2 a 3 a 4 a 5 a 6 a R R M R M R M R M R I P 1a2a3a4a5a6a7a8a9ia0a0' 1a2a3a4a5a6a 1a2a3a4a5a6a 1a2a3a4a5a6a 1a2a3a4a5a6a 1a2a3a4a5a6a1a2a3a4a5a6a | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
RPMPMPMPIPIPIP | ||
Legionnaire
Australia4514 Posts
RRMRIRIR is how most of the pros do it | ||
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DD-FRIeZa
Croatia91 Posts
RRMRMRMPMP =) | ||
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Smurg
Australia3818 Posts
PIMPPIMP | ||
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funkie
Venezuela9376 Posts
On November 28 2006 12:11 Smurg wrote: 1A2A3A4A PIMPPIMP OMGZ! TEH SMURG PIMPPIMP SECUENCE! | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On November 28 2006 11:52 Legionnaire wrote: higher keys do they switch to pinky for attack or move their hand back and forth?1A2A3A4A RRMRIRIR is how most of the pros do it | ||
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to miss the mark
Bosnia-Herzegovina1381 Posts
M R M R M R M R I P I P I P I P I P I P | ||
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Tadzio
3340 Posts
1-6 for units 1a = MT (left) 2a = MR (left) 3a = MR (left) 4a = IP (left) 5a = IP (left) 6a = IP (left) 7-0 for the first 4 hatcheries 7 = I (right) 8 = M (right) 9 = R (right) 0 = P (right) sd = RM (left) sz = RP (left) sh = PI (left) ss = RR (left) sm = PI (left) su = PI (left) sf = PM (left) sq = IM (left) Haven't found a comfortable way to make overlords yet; usually end up using the mouse to click the icon. | ||
jkillashark
United States5262 Posts
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skyglow1
New Zealand3962 Posts
1a2a3a4a5a6 a 7 a 8 a 9 a 0 a I I I I I I I I I I I PIPIPIPIP | ||
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useLess
United States4781 Posts
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to miss the mark
Bosnia-Herzegovina1381 Posts
On November 28 2006 14:56 useless wrote: My thumb is always on A, ring on 1, middle on 2, index on 3-4-5-6. :T Lefty? | ||
thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
a - always pinky 1-r 2-r 3-m 4-m 5-m 6-m 7-f btw this topic was made a month ago -___- | ||
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DarK]N[exuS
China1441 Posts
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Yogurt
United States4258 Posts
On November 28 2006 09:01 davidgurt wrote: Not this again. -__- http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=45353 http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=42579 http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=43702 yea good thing this topic title is much better | ||
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hiscv
Poland35 Posts
P-finger on ctrl R-finger on A M-finger on 1-2 I-finger on 3-4-5-6 So my 1a2a3a4a5a6a is like MR MR IR IR IR IR and 7a8a9a0a IP IP IP IP if really needed but I'd rather use alt key for late game grouping than sacrificing my rax/factory/scan keys. I cant understand how so many people could use same finger to press number keys and "a"... It makes your army control so slow t.t Especially 1a = RR looks so weird for me. /MYM.Raven | ||
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hiscv
Poland35 Posts
http://starcraft.7x.ru/content/files_real_down.php?fid=518 Would be nice to see how fast you can do 1a2a3a4a5a with your finger setups. My time for 1a2a3a4a5a is 0.35. /R | ||
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=45353 | ||
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hiscv
Poland35 Posts
/R | ||
CaucasianAsian
Korea (South)11595 Posts
R P I P M P I P I P I P I P I P etc... | ||
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Knickknack
United States1187 Posts
My take on middle for 1a. Potentially faster yes, but several concerns. First of all using middle for 1 works better if you don't even bother to use ring finger at all for #s. Because normally ring would be right over 1 so you would have to take time to move over. Well another thing is that moving the finger on the right(middle) past the left finger(ring) to hit 1 is just plain uncomfortable, unless your hand/keyboard is extremely slanted. And grouping with ring on a and middle one 1or2 is uncomfortable and limited range as well if hand is centered. As has been brought up before, how fast really matters. How fast does SC even respond? Also slant of hand/keyboard and palm position for whatever reason are almost never mentioned. Yea well .35 is probably the most unbelievable claim made yet. For that program just spit out .27 for 1a2a3a4a5a while i was just continually hitting it then highlighting and hitting. I figure i must have only highlight part of it then hit the rest, ha. Anyway .45 as other best, and I have not been playing except vary rarely for some time. And well keyboard matters as well, I have a dell standard. | ||
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EGMachine
United States1643 Posts
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Dexxus
United States329 Posts
1a2a3a4a 5a6a7a8a 9a0a rtrtrtrt ipipipip tptp But I'm weird so... | ||
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Aphelion
United States2720 Posts
On November 28 2006 07:31 exalted wrote: R P R M P I P I P I P I P I P I P In piano fingering notation: 45 45 35 25 25 25 25 25 25 25 25 Finally someone who does it the same way as me. I think I got it from thinking about piano fingering too. | ||
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dnaxmen
Australia124 Posts
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useLess
United States4781 Posts
Haha, good call. But howd you figure? | ||
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
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Regentropfen
Germany277 Posts
MI MI MI MT MT MT MT | ||
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exalted
United States3612 Posts
On November 28 2006 22:38 Aphelion02 wrote: Finally someone who does it the same way as me. I think I got it from thinking about piano fingering too. 'This is absolutely correct - progamers can do it however they want but this is the most efficient way finger-wise. My 1a2a3a4a5a6a is definitely >= Nada's 1a2a3a speed in the countdown. LOL at the person who was like "I type 6xx keystrokes a minute". I type ~150 (730+) words per minute :o. | ||
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SlothOfNarcolepsi
United States21 Posts
R R M R I R I R I P I P I P T P T P T P Props to anyone who can do I P for 0a -_-; | ||
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loupouk
France105 Posts
1 thumb 2 index 3 middle 4 ring 5 pinkie thx | ||
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Last Romantic
United States20661 Posts
On November 29 2006 12:50 loupouk wrote: please use piano notation... this rrpipipit are insane 1 thumb 2 index 3 middle 4 ring 5 pinkie thx Yeah but when we're talking about pressing numbers, that will get confusing --;; 0a with pinkie index isn't bad... I can make a capital P with leftshift/P, pinkie/index. | ||
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cava
United States1035 Posts
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
How the hell do you put your middle finger to the left of your ring finger? you have to twist your hand inward like your trying to throw a fucking haduken. thats retarded. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On November 28 2006 13:01 Tadzio00 wrote: I'm slow handed zerg so this is probably an example of what not to do, but this be what I do (OP's way seems very uncomfortable... so many thumbs!): 1-6 for units 1a = MT (left) 2a = MR (left) 3a = MR (left) 4a = IP (left) 5a = IP (left) 6a = IP (left) 7-0 for the first 4 hatcheries 7 = I (right) 8 = M (right) 9 = R (right) 0 = P (right) sd = RM (left) sz = RP (left) sh = PI (left) ss = RR (left) sm = PI (left) su = PI (left) sf = PM (left) sq = IM (left) Haven't found a comfortable way to make overlords yet; usually end up using the mouse to click the icon. so = PT or PI if your hands are larger, i do either. | ||
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Cloud
Sexico5880 Posts
On November 29 2006 16:29 CharlieMurphy wrote: How the hell do you put your middle finger to the left of your ring finger? you have to twist your hand inward like your trying to throw a fucking haduken. thats retarded. I think your keyboard is retarded. Your middle finger is just above your ring finger and barely tilted a bit to the left. | ||
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nortydog
Australia3067 Posts
2a Index, Index 3a Index, Index 4a Index, Index 5a Index, Index Its the only way because I have really small fingers and my ring finger is retarded | ||
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Target
Canada151 Posts
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