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intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9935 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-10-29 10:40:14
October 29 2006 10:39 GMT
#21
if you do this as some sort of rush where he won't have many observers and won't notice that they're blind, you can catch him off guard as he microes against you.

it would be really really sick =)
i don't know how viable this is in standard games though
Moderatorsloppy little slug
Alborz
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Canada1551 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-10-29 11:24:54
October 29 2006 11:23 GMT
#22
i think this is viable if you have enough micro to do the regular TvP crap well, while teching medics and flaring observers. as said before, scans could be put to better use as well.
pinenamu
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States770 Posts
October 29 2006 11:29 GMT
#23
Very nice idea, I'm gonna try this :p
Some!
Profile Joined September 2006
25 Posts
October 29 2006 11:32 GMT
#24
I had this done to me a long time ago by eri rofl i probably still have the rep ~_~
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-10-29 11:42:22
October 29 2006 11:40 GMT
#25
I used flare once to nuke a toss, was a cool game to play, nuked the toss like 8 times and then ran out of gas ;p.

Stupid rush hour and its 2500 gas expos. t.t


Funny thing is, had i done any other thing than that, like playing normal or w/e, i would have prolly got owned much sooner, i just suck that bad at tvp and he wasnt so bad :p
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
Scorpion
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States1974 Posts
October 29 2006 11:46 GMT
#26
Just some people trying to save a useless spell...

Like the subwoofer in PvZ... trying to save Scouts-a useless unit.
Mango @ U.S.East!
Alborz
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Canada1551 Posts
October 29 2006 11:59 GMT
#27
nothing in starcraft is useless kthx
Scorpion
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States1974 Posts
October 29 2006 12:00 GMT
#28
In the progaming scene it is....
Mango @ U.S.East!
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
October 29 2006 12:08 GMT
#29
Ive seen ra use scouts.
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
A3iL3r0n
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States2196 Posts
October 29 2006 12:17 GMT
#30
I've seen rA use ur mom...
My psychiatrist says I have deep-seated Ragneuroses :(
Alborz
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Canada1551 Posts
October 29 2006 12:46 GMT
#31
On October 29 2006 21:00 Scorpion wrote:
In the progaming scene it is....

boxer flaring up observers and smashing carriers didnt seem useless to me
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
October 29 2006 14:03 GMT
#32
This sounds really good in theory. However, in reality you forget that a good toss will clear standing (unprotected) mine fields extremely quickly. If you do manage to set it up a good toss will only move his obs in range while having goons nearby. This makes micro actually difficult. Imagine being able to notice an ob moving in range of mines (the hardest part) scanning and then targeting before the mines are clear/the medic killed. Specially if the P has obs speed which most good p users get mid game for mobility. Further if you are planning to blind obs that go close to your push (army); then it becomes far more wise to simply spend for 4-5 marines(which you will probably have anyways) and kill the obs flat out. So ya its cute and could get you some style points but to actually spend time and a little focus on preparing this is a waste of time
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
October 29 2006 14:05 GMT
#33
On October 29 2006 21:46 Alborz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2006 21:00 Scorpion wrote:
In the progaming scene it is....

boxer flaring up observers and smashing carriers didnt seem useless to me

A player of that caliber would find it far easier to kill them with targeting. He was being cute.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
Some!
Profile Joined September 2006
25 Posts
October 29 2006 14:17 GMT
#34
I will upload the game that I had it done to me when rapidshare.de stops being full or I find another place. Its pretty funny actually. Its 2 years old but I think it still works.
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
October 29 2006 14:19 GMT
#35
On October 29 2006 23:05 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2006 21:46 Alborz wrote:
On October 29 2006 21:00 Scorpion wrote:
In the progaming scene it is....

boxer flaring up observers and smashing carriers didnt seem useless to me

A player of that caliber would find it far easier to kill them with targeting. He was being cute.


What?

You guys are all wrong. It was a desperation move by boxer (which worked) but he lost the game anyway.

And it's different cause cloaked wraiths raped so many carriers really quickly. Blinding obs in normal TvP....saves your mines?
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
nite2
Profile Joined June 2006
182 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-10-29 17:17:08
October 29 2006 17:08 GMT
#36
i _really_ think this has potential (i wouldnt have written this otherwise duh) thats why im gonna do it in all my TvP in the next few days to try to make some nice reps for upload.

I agree with some1 who said ppl think this is to micro intensive just coz its not a usual strat.
Lemme try to prove my point.
What if i suggested this strat 5 years ago(have no idea when it was invented, but if i was the one to suggest it first):
"in ZvP u fast lair, Den, lurks, at the same time upgrade speed lords and make spire. then u move ur lurks to toss' base and burrow in front. U get some Lords and scourges there, and when u see him trying to get out of his baze, u kill the obs with scourges so he cant kill ur lurks, and he has to withdraw. then u exp like crazy."
Ppl would call it theorycrafting, but if im not mistaken thats the usual lurker contain(i could be wrong, never played Z). And personally, i find it more micro intensive to chase the obs with scourge than to blind it.
there are real people in the big, big trucks that you flip off when they get in your way
GeneralCash
Profile Joined December 2005
Croatia346 Posts
October 29 2006 17:19 GMT
#37
better would be to blind mines. it's like ally mine, only legal. the mine will blow up only when a unit is standing one square away from it. two of those can waste 12 zeals if placed in the middle of nowhere where toss will not see the need to use obs...
Asta
Profile Joined October 2002
Germany3491 Posts
October 29 2006 17:20 GMT
#38
some time (maybe 1-2 years) ago it was used a lot.
nite2
Profile Joined June 2006
182 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-10-29 18:25:50
October 29 2006 18:02 GMT
#39
to all the ppl that said "just use rines/goliaths" or "the zeals will just run into ur tanks" it not what this is about.
The main purpose of this is to limit the movement for toss making it harder for toss set up flanks and attack from multiple directions. The minefield supported by medic doesnt have to be near ur troops at all, u can do this in the paths all over the map, paths toss is likely to take.
there are real people in the big, big trucks that you flip off when they get in your way
CuddlyCuteKitten
Profile Joined January 2004
Sweden2834 Posts
October 29 2006 18:37 GMT
#40
Didn't drone try this some time ago? I remember a thread about it when discussing cute strats.
Don't think it worked very well tho.
Unity, support, family, and kneecapping bitches.
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