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Beamo
France1279 Posts
The first time I saw a terran Wall on temple was Elky in 99 in the final of a small tourney (he used to be protoss but played random for that tourney). A korean player beat me PvZ with a fast expand, I has an over in his base and thought he was a newb since his timing was slow, when I noticed he had his natural, was too late... I also saw Grrr... use Fast Expand vs Uther in a tourney in France where he was invited with Thor. | ||
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Vin{MBL}
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Polemarch
Canada1564 Posts
like i remember a couple games using ghosts with lockdown tvp to counter carriers, then hallucination to counter lockdown (carriers clumped together so ghosts can't tell which ones are real), then EMP to counter that | ||
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~rOyAL~
New Zealand175 Posts
after that made 200/200 limit carriers with all upgrades it took me like 1 hour mabey more and after that made cannons all over mai base surround and then attack nad like after 1.30-2.00 hours i attacked | ||
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Piste
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strik.fr
France212 Posts
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Polis
Poland1292 Posts
It maybe suprising but almost nobady made defence in 2v2 games that I had played, most zerg just go fast muta whithout lings, terrans marines/fierbats.Game was fun to me because I didn't care about my speed just about my decision making and I didn't have to be fast to be above average I didn't think about the fact that I was limited whit my speed. | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Mass Zeals/Marines into mass Reavers/Carriers/BC's. Zerg wast 1hatch muta always in teamplay | ||
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pyrogenetix
China5098 Posts
goons was "high tech" didnt know abt upgrades wtf are spells? computers were unbeatable always forge before gate 9 cannons was a mediocre number never expand 8 probes only yea... then i played a little more like fastest but then it was still like 100 cannons then maxout on 3-3-3 carriers... | ||
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nysikto
Norway337 Posts
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BrutalMenace
United States1237 Posts
On October 03 2006 22:38 WhatisProtoss wrote: ExecutorZileas, the #1 Beta BroodWar player before Korean-pros created many Terran and Protoss strategies, employing a lot of templar usage. He published a lot of strategy guide build orders online. hah i remember when i was protoss newbie before i realized T will be the race i play 15,000 lt & non money games, I read all the reports on battle.net and then i stalked Zileas on his website and he was like oh i dont play SC anymore but he gave me some storm tips that are very effective. Storm the front guy, etc. | ||
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bearnet2001
Argentina335 Posts
The best part about him is that, since all his strategies were written as battereports and submitted to the website, they all have exact dates of posting, so you know exactly when, at the latest, he knew about these strategies. Unlike saying 'well boxer knew about this early on', we have, to the day, when Heartcutter had these strategies down. By 1999 he had come to these conclusions: TvZ: Go m&m, getting to 3/3 fast, and mass science vessels. Effectively SK terran, but in 1999. TvP: Go for a wallin (LT) with 3 marines at the choke, then 2 factories with mines and tanks. Also published a 'deep six' guide, talking about using mass tanks (skipping vultures except for the very first one produced) to fight off mass goon containment. TvT: Pure metal, along with wraiths. He earlier used m&m, but found it ineffective. Again this is the standard strategy nowadays (or some variant thereof), but he had it written down in mid 1999. -- If you want to read through his battlereports check out http://www.battlereports.com/search.php?author=heartcutter He's also credited on the battlereport website as an 'originator of many terran strategies'. Basically, Heartcutter had decided upon the main strategies used today and even codified them in battlereport strategy posts, back in 1999. And the dating is undisputable: the battelreport is timestamped when it is submitted, so its not subjective like 'I think X knew about Y strategy back around 99/2000', its to the day | ||
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bearnet2001
Argentina335 Posts
It's all written down and even codified in 'strategy reports'. Check it out at http://www.battlereports.com/search.php?author=heartcutter | ||
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Leath
Canada1724 Posts
Shame that those koreans kidnapped me and forced me to tell the secrets. On my way back I asked for my lawyer if I had a case of egame copyright, but he denied. Later on I found out the reason for his negative attitude was that he played SC as well, and was making good use of all the BOs.  GG No one remembers me though, cuz my name was hard to spell. =( NebuchadnezzarSchwarzenegger Seriously, I used to use the computer as a role model, and thought that a combination of all units force and special abilities was the key to success. So usually I would go 2 barracks, 1 fac, exp, start port, fac, sci, star port. And go around making ghosts, bcs, tanks, mnm, vults, goliath with all the reaseaches. Then try to use them all to my best. Optic flare on observers, lockdwn carriers, irradiate mutas, nuke ccs, etc Didnt win too many games ;p | ||
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~chut~
France1317 Posts
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artofmagic
United States1951 Posts
waiting for rekrul's answer.. | ||
Chill
Calgary25996 Posts
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NonYold
United States2814 Posts
On October 04 2006 07:24 nysikto wrote: garimto and rA camed up with most of the tactics for p i'd say grrrr... and garimto. ra came up with nothing really | ||
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Norway
United States341 Posts
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akamufu
Korea (South)321 Posts
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