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Modesty00
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria262 Posts
December 12 2012 04:31 GMT
#1
Hello. First Excuse my bad english. Second i would like to thank Michael who told me how to do it.
From request by sen_birdie i made very simple tutorial for new mutalisk micro. If you ever (i bet you do) wonder how Koreans like Larva manage so good and fast to control mutalisk... well here is the secret
... He is not using standart micro with move-hold command or right clicking on target. Instead there is new, faster way for microing.
He is using Move command with left click mouse on target then immediately on same target attack command again with left button of mouse (so M+left click on target + A+left click on same target(is possbile just with right click on target but is harder)) Then you move with right click away mutas and repeat. Well that's all. i made a video to show you.
First it sound and look hard and i dont do it perfectly + my mouse is clicking twice some time..
But when u learn it you will enjoy it and you will find that is kinda funny and not least is better to micro specially when attacking turrets or scv.

http://www.livestream.com/modesty/video?clipId=pla_c21d0e61-b513-4e74-80e4-bcec4ff20de7&utm_source=lslibrary&utm_medium=ui-thumb

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Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
December 12 2012 04:40 GMT
#2
Thanks very much for that Modesty, it does seem more responsive :D although it'll take a bit of practice to get used to.
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Modesty00
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria262 Posts
December 12 2012 04:50 GMT
#3
Yeah exacly it respond faster. need a lot of practice. And when scourges are right behind your mutas and u can't hit or escape them use this technic and it will shoot faster. Also is the same technic that Terrans used to micro wraiths.
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justjuice
Profile Joined January 2010
New Zealand165 Posts
December 12 2012 08:13 GMT
#4
I've been watching snipealot a lot and pretty much..
Patrol.. for scourge
Hold.. for killing marines
M Con as they call it.. for killing specific units like workers, templar etc
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6555 Posts
December 12 2012 09:20 GMT
#5
muta micro depend of the situation
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 12:19:34
December 12 2012 12:19 GMT
#6
Woah interesting, I would try but on french keyboards "M" is at ";" place... Pretty hard to do it in game lol. (and "A" is at "Q" place).
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LaLuSh
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden2358 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 15:12:53
December 12 2012 15:10 GMT
#7
This is interesting. Because in SC2BW mod the creator is trying to emulate brood war moving shot by making an ability that issues a move command a split second before the attack command.

I don't think this particular method is preferable to patrol micro when microing vs scourge though. When microing vs scourge you want to travel towards the scourge for as short of a time period as possible.

Move-attack would be equivalent to patrol micro perhaps if you wrote a script for it. But to micro this way vs scourge without errors or variation in performance is too hard compared to patrol method.

With patrol: if you travel towards UP direction, you move command in Upper left direction and then patrol in Lower Left. Then you spamclick move in to run away from scourge again.

With this new method you need to target click the scourge.

You achieve the same effect by move clicking past your target and then a-click. But admittedly this new method makes it much easier by allowing your mouse pointer to hover directly over the target for both the move and the attack command. So in that sense it's better! You don't have to move your mouse between issuing the move command and the a-click.

But conceptually it's the exact same thing as move clicking past your target and then a-clicking.
Jaevlaterran
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden578 Posts
December 12 2012 18:20 GMT
#8
Nice, will try!
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LegendaryDreams
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada1350 Posts
December 12 2012 18:21 GMT
#9
This is the beauty of brood war, 14 years after its inception, there are still new concepts and skills you can learn about the game. Although this technique may have been known to some, I'm sure the concept is still new to the majority of us. Nice post.
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TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1967 Posts
December 12 2012 19:29 GMT
#10
though iam not playing bw anymore i still love it. its just the best rts ever made.
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Gairbear
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States80 Posts
December 12 2012 20:14 GMT
#11
This technique is for like sniping HT or Medics. It works great!
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
December 12 2012 21:05 GMT
#12
This is method that I use. It's not that new.
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Kau *
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada3500 Posts
December 12 2012 21:53 GMT
#13
This is impossible to do haha.
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vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 22:46:37
December 12 2012 22:43 GMT
#14
On December 13 2012 03:21 LegendaryDreams wrote:
This is the beauty of brood war, 14 years after its inception, there are still new concepts and skills you can learn about the game. Although this technique may have been known to some, I'm sure the concept is still new to the majority of us. Nice post.


I don't understand how there being lots of skills that individual players can learn is related to the age of the game.

But conceptually it's the exact same thing as move clicking past your target and then a-clicking


But practically, clicking past is impossible to do sometimes. If you're right above an SCV, deep inside a Terran base, with units and buildings everywhere, there's nowhere to click behind the SCV.
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mca64[KDV]
Profile Joined May 2012
Poland463 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-13 00:37:47
December 13 2012 00:36 GMT
#15
its not new... im usin it for years to micro wraiths or in some case for vultures micro. I prefer right click
GhoSt[shield]
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2131 Posts
December 13 2012 03:33 GMT
#16
Love how cool stuff is discovered in control management. I didnt play Z but I loved to play that muta v scourge micro map.
Will check out that move command into attack command on same target. Cool to see control evolving even more.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10141 Posts
December 13 2012 03:49 GMT
#17
yeah seems a lot better than my right-clicking muta micro. awesome. will try.
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ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
December 13 2012 15:25 GMT
#18
Man... more muta micro tricks to learn (and then fuck up in game!)
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Deleted User 268575
Profile Joined June 2012
146 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-13 18:29:53
December 13 2012 18:29 GMT
#19
Wow this seems really hard to do as you have like twice the chance of mis-clicking but once perfected this would be so good to use.. thanks for this thread! I was confused about what u were saying in someones stream chat but now i get it
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Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 02:02:12
December 14 2012 01:59 GMT
#20
This is kind of hard for me...Pressing the "M" key while muta microing feels extremely unnatural to me. I don't think I've ever issued a mutalisk a manual move command until now.

I am pressing the "M" key with my index finger then trying to reach back with my pinky finger and press the "A" key. It might be better to use my thumb to press the "M" key so I can keep a finger hovered above "A" throughout the duration of the movement.
PUPATREE
Profile Joined August 2009
340 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 02:38:48
December 14 2012 02:32 GMT
#21
been doing this technique forever
really helps when you're bad/your mutas aren't perfectly stacked
glad it's seeing the light

edit:
On December 14 2012 10:59 Sinensis wrote:
I am pressing the "M" key with my index finger then trying to reach back with my pinky finger and press the "A" key. It might be better to use my thumb to press the "M" key so I can keep a finger hovered above "A" throughout the duration of the movement.


can do rightclick or h or p+leftclick instead of a+leftclick if that's easier for you (what'll work best prob depending on the situation)
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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
December 14 2012 06:52 GMT
#22
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UED_PaSs.SL
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Hungary6 Posts
December 14 2012 16:42 GMT
#23
New?
I micro in this way since im zerg oo
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
December 14 2012 17:21 GMT
#24
Muta micro is all about keeping up the momentum, there are lots of ways to do it, this being one.
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PUPATREE
Profile Joined August 2009
340 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-15 00:20:44
December 15 2012 00:19 GMT
#25
On December 14 2012 15:52 krndandaman wrote:
so basically you right click past a unit to get mutas moving, then right click it to attack and shortly after press a attack? damn


no, you move command directly on the target (m+1st click), then attack it (2nd click or h)

mutas can only shoot in the direction they're flying, so by using move command on what you want to attack, they'll all move directly towards the target (instead of sometimes being a little off and not firing if you click in front/behind or if mutas aren't nicely stacked)
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icclown
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Denmark270 Posts
December 16 2012 03:19 GMT
#26
On December 12 2012 21:19 Glioburd wrote:
Woah interesting, I would try but on french keyboards "M" is at ";" place... Pretty hard to do it in game lol. (and "A" is at "Q" place).



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puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3126 Posts
December 17 2012 22:31 GMT
#27
This sounds really hard.
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Kibibit
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1551 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-19 00:11:31
December 19 2012 00:11 GMT
#28
Oops, wrong thread.
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Qbyx
Profile Joined November 2007
Romania210 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-21 15:50:49
December 21 2012 15:48 GMT
#29
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