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diskovision
Profile Joined January 2019
United States27 Posts
March 08 2020 04:05 GMT
#81
Is hydra/lurker/defiler the true ultimate ZvZ composition? Probably not, but I'd love to see it more anyway.
iopq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States907 Posts
March 09 2020 09:10 GMT
#82
On March 08 2020 13:05 diskovision wrote:
Is hydra/lurker/defiler the true ultimate ZvZ composition? Probably not, but I'd love to see it more anyway.

Nah, it gets rolled by ultra/defiler since the hydras can't shoot under swarm and ultras laugh at 20 damage spikes

But ultras and defilers get owned by mass broodling, so you need to make muta to chase the queens down
iopq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States907 Posts
March 12 2020 02:38 GMT
#83
I really like the 9 pool expand, it can easily deny 12 hatch expand, and only really struggles vs. 12 pool.

The problem vs. 12 pool is you have no way of denying an early third unless you take a delayed gas and research speed first. Which I guess is possible.

The biggest problem is that when you 12 hatch, and they 12 hatch they have too many zerglings to really pressure them. So I prefer the 9 pool to always play vs. a small econ Zerg
iopq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States907 Posts
April 03 2020 09:18 GMT
#84


Larva's attempt is fairly poor, but he limited himself to building no zerglings, and sneaks out a ninja expansion that his opponent never scouts even though it's not even a "hidden" base

his spore placement is very poor, no defensive spore at choke, he then suicides into sunken colonies + mutas, gets rekt by guardians because he has no spire

I can post much better games, and my opponents are about the same skill level, lol

iopq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States907 Posts
July 08 2024 21:53 GMT
#85
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2192214835

I went hydra vs. a 2100 Korean who kept on telling me to leave the game, I think this one is a bit more entertaining
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10141 Posts
July 09 2024 21:24 GMT
#86
On July 09 2024 06:53 iopq wrote:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2192214835

I went hydra vs. a 2100 Korean who kept on telling me to leave the game, I think this one is a bit more entertaining

Man that guy was MALDING.

Also definitely seems like you absolutely need lurkers in late game ZvZ, they destroy every ground unit. Can't believe your opponent didn't make any.
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United States1051 Posts
July 12 2024 20:45 GMT
#87
On July 10 2024 06:24 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2024 06:53 iopq wrote:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2192214835

I went hydra vs. a 2100 Korean who kept on telling me to leave the game, I think this one is a bit more entertaining

Man that guy was MALDING.

Also definitely seems like you absolutely need lurkers in late game ZvZ, they destroy every ground unit. Can't believe your opponent didn't make any.


yeah, and many people don't know that burrowed units cannot be plagued
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Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada966 Posts
August 03 2024 14:24 GMT
#88
On July 13 2024 05:45 Mutaller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2024 06:24 FlaShFTW wrote:
On July 09 2024 06:53 iopq wrote:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2192214835

I went hydra vs. a 2100 Korean who kept on telling me to leave the game, I think this one is a bit more entertaining

Man that guy was MALDING.

Also definitely seems like you absolutely need lurkers in late game ZvZ, they destroy every ground unit. Can't believe your opponent didn't make any.


yeah, and many people don't know that burrowed units cannot be plagued


plagued / ensnared units that burrow will be revealed without detection. but yes, while underground these spells don't do anything
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