EPTWhy?
Why not?
In what situations is it useful?
Is it a good counter to any specific strategy?
Discuss.
Overlord Sightrange
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Mora
Canada5235 Posts
Why? Why not? In what situations is it useful? Is it a good counter to any specific strategy? Discuss. | ||
CTStalker
Canada9720 Posts
And the reason I don't upgrade it is because I'm not a very good zerg player. But I would think it's useful; z players put overlords around the other players base and other mains to catch a glimpse of stuff leaving. so the sight would be an obvious benefit there. | ||
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FireBlast!
United Kingdom5251 Posts
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On April 12 2005 10:34 CTStalker wrote: \I don't upgrade it on purpose too often, but i click it all the fucking time when im trying to make mutas in a hurry. And the reason I don't upgrade it is because I'm not a very good zerg player. But I would think it's useful; z players put overlords arnd the other players base and other mains to catch a glimpse of stuff leaving. so the sight would be an obvious benefit there. muta? im fairly sure the shortcut is A, bit far from M oO i almost never upgrade it, it isnt like obs site range where you want to make each one more efficient, since you need them anyway. all i can think of is lurk contain pvz so itd be harder for ob to get out of ovie vision before scourge gets to it or something like that, anytime went you want vision as far as possible but cant place more ovies to see it. | ||
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CTStalker
Canada9720 Posts
ie, im clicking the middle block where muta will be before i hit 's' to get the larvae. pssh newbie | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On April 12 2005 10:42 CTStalker wrote: It's not the shortcut hungzerg, they have the same placement in the menu ie, im clicking the middle block where muta will be before i hit 's' to get the larvae. pssh newbie so you click the menu in order to make shit. yes, im the newbie. | ||
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CTStalker
Canada9720 Posts
 do you hit 's', then move your hand all the way over to hit m? i think it's faster to hit 's' then click muta. or if not faster, i guess it's just how im used to doing it. btw read my post completely before you respond. | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On April 12 2005 10:57 CTStalker wrote: do you hit 's', then move your hand all the way over to hit m? i think it's faster to hit 's' then click muta. btw read my post before you respond. not that long of a stretch, hit s w/ ring finger and you can reach m w/o moving your hand w/ index finger. it isnt any faster to click the menu, and you have to move your mouse away from the screen i read your post... | ||
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AmazingFlash
582 Posts
 . If you can get a couple seconds to save yourself why not. | ||
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CTStalker
Canada9720 Posts
On April 12 2005 11:02 HungZerg wrote: not that long of a stretch, hit s w/ ring finger and you can reach m w/o moving your hand w/ index finger. it isnt any faster to click the menu, and you have to move your mouse away from the screen i read your post... That's not how this sheriff runs the town, jimmy. | ||
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Bizkit
Sweden1137 Posts
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hasuwar
7365 Posts
and yes hung, you are the newb. | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
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hasuwar
7365 Posts
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ahk-gosu
Korea (South)2099 Posts
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
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exalted
United States3612 Posts
This thread sucks anyway : / | ||
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iNsaNe-
Finland5201 Posts
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MPXMX
Canada4309 Posts
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Never Post
United Kingdom503 Posts
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Bizkit
Sweden1137 Posts
having hatchery 4-0 1. press hotkey "4" 2. press button "s" 3. mouse pointer positioned over the unit u want and click.. 4. repeat from step one and replace "4" with "5" and so on.... This works like a charm for units like zerligns cuz the "z" is so far away and that makes it slower to build with only hotkeys using only one hand at the keyboard all the time which I do(my playing style). You can see some pros letting go of their mice in vods. sometimes u miss, to fast or no larva and click the upgrade button when buying mutas by mistake | ||
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nvnplatypus
Netherlands1300 Posts
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[pG]BrEaKdOwN
Germany141 Posts
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Guybrush
Spain4744 Posts
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CTStalker
Canada9720 Posts
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28683 Posts
I've gotten it while doing lurker scourge containments, although who knows if one lord and 4 scourges wouldve been better. it's never necessary but it's definitely _good_ for beating lurker containments. | ||
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exalted
United States3612 Posts
On April 12 2005 17:29 Guybrush wrote: actually no. Having this upgrade is basically to see the whole map, so using it on an island map is in fact pretty smart cuz u need less overlords to have a good overview. This upgrade should be good vs Terran on Gorky, cuz u need to be the place goliaths are landing with your mutas. 150/150 is not much either. Using it after two or three gas expos should be quite effective. actually he's breakdown And his comment definitely has merit, instead of having overlords spaced out and having no gaps, in those gaps that would have been there you could have put scourge. And if you guys care so much about seeing the whole goddamn map becuase you are such fast players, just put your overlord on a few matrix patrol to increase their sight. That works, gogo. | ||
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exalted
United States3612 Posts
 out of Bonus points for getting the joke. | ||
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Cloud
Sexico5880 Posts
Toss contain, when you have scourge around. | ||
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Bladox
Canada763 Posts
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
Usually on a ZvZ, when I try to make mutas fast and accidentally upgrade sightrange. When I am playing Fastest vs a newbie, trying to find an upgrade to spend money on. But, yeah I mean they could be useful..but I just don't think I would have money to spare on it while I can get better things. | ||
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iNCuBuS_
United States905 Posts
On April 12 2005 13:29 Never Post wrote: When making lots of varied units for whatever reason, going 5s6s7s8s9s0s and clicking on the different unit protraits was always faster for me, but took time to get use to. This is the same for me I click the unit portraits bottom right. I dont usually upgrade ovie sight on purpose, maybe once or twice I did. | ||
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TreK
Sweden2089 Posts
there are 4 scenarios as i see it. 1.uve got 10000 / 10000 hey why not upgrade ol sight range 2.u upgrade it at misstake 3.ur playing a zvt, uve got massive control of the map but ur opponent is not bad...he is making these boxer runs with 3-3 mari medics in all directions and u have a "hard" time keeping up with it...u get sight range to pretty much get a better vision of his outruns 4.Its a really tight zvp , 1 exp against 1 exp and u as a zerg player is pretty much doing all the harass u can for the toss not to 100% benefit from his exp and keep him shut in so he cant get out, u get ol sight range AFTER drop AND ol speed becoz simply u cant reach his obs when he go hide with them behind his goons when he is doing his slowpush breakout attempt, same reason protoss players can get speed and ob sightrange to get out ASAP. The upgrade is worth it but still not worth it.... u cant get hive while upgrading it and compared to speed and drop its crazily unneeded... im sure it could make a difference in a semi close match tho. | ||
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Tien
Russian Federation4447 Posts
Only transport + speed. Maybe when Im really really board and have lots of money ill research it. | ||
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Klasskamp
Sweden54 Posts
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28683 Posts
The upgrade is worth it but still not worth it...." sums it up. the money cost is not the problem. the problem is that you want speed, drop and hive before you get it, but after you have speed, drop and hive it's rarely necessary anymore anyway. | ||
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iD.Surv
Belgium827 Posts
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koehli
Germany350 Posts
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Hwoarang
Korea (South)235 Posts
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yare
507 Posts
also, you can sometimes broodling like 12 scv, and do enough damage to the cc to tank it... the person really has to suck for this occurance... but all possible with the extra viewing area. | ||
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paper
13196 Posts
On April 14 2005 07:03 koehli wrote: guess it's hard to become a candidate for "pimpest play" by researching overlord sight range :-p rofl thats hilarious the vid shows Yellow clicking the Overlord Sight Range upgrade and it shows a small segment of the upgrade progressing at a x10 speed and then it emphasizes the overlords in slow motion, and then the fog of war is instantly uncovered in the minimap and screaming korean girls throw themselves at yellow in pure ecstasy. for this pimpest play. 8) | ||
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jjun212
Canada2208 Posts
sometimes the wraithes are on an angle where ur hydras cant hit them because the overlord cant see it? | ||
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EchoOfRain
United States516 Posts
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On April 16 2005 20:15 ryuGie wrote: rofl thats hilarious the vid shows Yellow clicking the Overlord Sight Range upgrade and it shows a small segment of the upgrade progressing at a x10 speed and then it emphasizes the overlords in slow motion, and then the fog of war is instantly uncovered in the minimap and screaming korean girls throw themselves at yellow in pure ecstasy. for this pimpest play. 8) ahahahahhah | ||
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Antifate
United States415 Posts
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pooper-scooper
United States3108 Posts
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Raidern
Brazil3811 Posts
then i'd upgrade it | ||
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Holorin
France227 Posts
On June 22 2005 13:27 EchoOfRain wrote: the only situation i could see it usefull for is pvz lurker contain you've given the best idea so far against lurker contain : go obs sight-range, keep them away from ol's and kill those fucking undergroud lamas with goons&storm without being woried by scourge suiciding on you beloved obs ... ( 1 obs = 2 scourge ) | ||
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Elvin_vn
Vietnam2038 Posts
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THC-303
Canada113 Posts
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NeX-HamartiA
United States244 Posts
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skindzer
Chile5114 Posts
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Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
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NonYold
United States2814 Posts
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Travin
Sweden672 Posts
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NovaTheFeared
United States7224 Posts
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8882
2718 Posts
vs cors-DT of course after ovie speed and drop I think it is useful vs cors/dt - cors/arbiter etc | ||
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ubergamer15
United States645 Posts
Oh well. Yeah, I upgrade it, especially ZvP - makes spotting observers easier. | ||
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SoMuchBetter
Australia10606 Posts
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
i thought we agreed we usaully research it by accident. | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
I remember one of the like.. 2 times I've ever suspected anyone of hacking. I had played for a few months/half a year and was big on cannon cliffing zergs (I also thought I invented the toss fast expo.. hell, I submitted it to some sclegacy cheese contest T______T I think I 'came up with it' after reading some list posted by iszard - before the fall - about how garimto used his opponents strats but with toss like proxy robo etc)........... SO, I was making 4 cannons on this zerg players cliff, I see no ols. Np. THEN HE STARTS SUNKENING WTFFFFFFF (or he sent mutas, dunno ages ago). So yeah, I dont remember who won but then I watched the replay and I noticed he had overlord sight upgrade lol :D This was like 10 minutes into the game max, was 12 vs 3 too. | ||
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ArseniC-2
United States131 Posts
I know that when i was a newbie trying to play zerg, i would accidently click on that to research rather than drop or speed upgrade... and be like @#$@#$#!!!!! when I tried to load my overlords. | ||
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RaiZ
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iNsaNe-
Finland5201 Posts
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Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
On August 25 2005 01:27 RaiZ wrote: Pretty usefull since you sometime want to keep all your ovies to drop somewhere. This was an answer for breakdown especially. Yep that's what I was thinking when he said that =] | ||
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OuT[GG]
Canada116 Posts
On April 16 2005 20:15 ryuGie wrote: rofl thats hilarious the vid shows Yellow clicking the Overlord Sight Range upgrade and it shows a small segment of the upgrade progressing at a x10 speed and then it emphasizes the overlords in slow motion, and then the fog of war is instantly uncovered in the minimap and screaming korean girls throw themselves at yellow in pure ecstasy. for this pimpest play. 8) Hahahahahahahaha soooo funny !!!! | ||
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