EPTTvZ Vult vs Lurker/ling - Page 2
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iNsaNe-
Finland5201 Posts
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tX.Ghanima
Poland53 Posts
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
On April 10 2005 14:58 tX.Ghanima wrote: cant u just do floating fact and try to kill his expo with 2 tanks on klif? it is very davastating for zerg... same time do 3 valks on main... and add m&m... make an exp... and kill em.... that sounds like a lot of money.. | ||
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
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Chereoke
Zimbabwe201 Posts
SWARM! | ||
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dronebabo
10866 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia13414 Posts
On September 05 2005 08:59 Chereoke wrote: "switch fast with expand and 5-6 fac gol." SWARM! Seriously wtf. Don't revive old topics with keyboard diarrhea. | ||
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Elvin_vn
Vietnam2038 Posts
I think hydralurker will be a counter to this. IMO it works mostly because of the suprise factor. Once this strat is more common, the counter to this won't be hard. Don't underestimate the zerg's tech-switching ability, especially u didn't pressure the zerg's expo much if u tech to fac. | ||
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Hypnotize
United States183 Posts
ihe went vults and i was like "wtf" cuz i had ovie speed somehow and hydras, then he went tank/gol. how do you beat metal once t gets tech? | ||
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Sequence~
United States418 Posts
On March 14 2006 17:33 Hypnotize wrote: how do you beat a terran who goes metal if your initial attack gets raped? ihe went vults and i was like "wtf" cuz i had ovie speed somehow and hydras, then he went tank/gol. how do you beat metal once t gets tech? Seeing as this is your 4th post, you probably will want to read the forum rules. Please DONT bump year old threads, make a new one so your question will be answered. Btw, there are like two or three threads on how to beat terran metal with zerg that are currently bouncing around in the strategy forum. Use the search function or scroll through topic titles. To answer your question, go mass muta + lings to beat metal. | ||
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Cloud
Sexico5880 Posts
ehhh, this thread is ooooold  | ||
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QuietIdiot
7004 Posts
Good use of Vultures at start, ended up with a powerful use of goliaths. Made possible with the large gap between the player's starting positions and convenient unit placments. Edit: oH SHIT WTF thread so old, wasted my time on searching for this..fuck. | ||
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BlueRoyaL
United States2493 Posts
this strat would work better on non-gas naturals such as nostalgia this would also help prevent a possible contain w/ lurkers for mines against a good zerg however harrassment will be very difficult drops are probably out of question because he will place atleat 1 sunk on his main cuz u can get quick drop after all in all this isn't the best or most effective strat and you really have to know what you're doing but i have seen lotta pros go this build and work it effectively | ||
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skyglow1
New Zealand3962 Posts
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HappyManRun
1111 Posts
Maybe 2 fact vult --> Mass Valkarie if he goes mutalisks? ^^ Valks r sexy Then take islands -> Mass BC w00t | ||
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Hypnotize
United States183 Posts
On March 14 2006 17:42 Sequence~ wrote: Seeing as this is your 4th post, you probably will want to read the forum rules. Please DONT bump year old threads, make a new one so your question will be answered. Btw, there are like two or three threads on how to beat terran metal with zerg that are currently bouncing around in the strategy forum. Use the search function or scroll through topic titles. To answer your question, go mass muta + lings to beat metal. k sorry, ill look it up. | ||
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SixSongs
Poland1455 Posts
On April 10 2005 14:58 tX.Ghanima wrote: cant u just do floating fact and try to kill his expo with 2 tanks on klif? it is very davastating for zerg... same time do 3 valks on main... and add m&m... make an exp... and kill em.... Dude are u serious???? this would work on d- pgt users, maybe maybe. First read the post pefore u replay somethin so stupid | ||
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Cloud
Sexico5880 Posts
On March 19 2006 14:31 SixSongs wrote: Dude are u serious???? this would work on d- pgt users, maybe maybe. First read the post pefore u replay somethin so stupid This guy kickdog does this kind of things, and he beats decent players, its so frigging annoying if you are expecting to play an straight player :D. | ||
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5HITCOMBO
Japan2239 Posts
On March 14 2006 17:42 Sequence~ wrote: Seeing as this is your 4th post, you probably will want to read the forum rules. Please DONT bump year old threads, make a new one so your question will be answered. Btw, there are like two or three threads on how to beat terran metal with zerg that are currently bouncing around in the strategy forum. Use the search function or scroll through topic titles. To answer your question, go mass muta + lings to beat metal. Hold up. He can't make new posts about old topics because it's already been answered, but he can't make new posts on those old topics either. So... basically, once we've looked at a topic, no more analysis is allowed? And on topic, mass mutaling isn't a hard counter because as the game goes on, mutaling loses its effectiveness against masses of goliaths. The terran will stop tank production when he sees that you don't have any hydras, and you'll be stuck fighting upped range gols with mutas and lings, which isn't that great. Muta is good to keep the terran in their base, but you shouldn't make too many. Make about 8 and drop two evo chambers, begin hydra upgrades, and make a den. Upgrade range and speed, and pump masses of hydras. If you time this correctly, your mutas and residual lings will still overpower their tanks/vultures/gols or at least stop them long enough to amass enough hydras (don't lose your mutas, though, you need them for harassment and guardians, ultraling doesn't fly vs metal). Hive tech when you start your second armor and attack upgrade, and as soon as that's done, greater spire for guardians. From there, just steamroll with hydra/guard. The great thing about mutas is that you can keep the terran contained while you expand, but unless you switch to something more powerful, eventually they're just going to break out with oov amounts of metal. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On March 21 2006 15:47 5HITCOMBO wrote: Hold up. He can't make new posts about old topics because it's already been answered, but he can't make new posts on those old topics either. So... basically, once we've looked at a topic, no more analysis is allowed? And on topic, mass mutaling isn't a hard counter because as the game goes on, mutaling loses its effectiveness against masses of goliaths. The terran will stop tank production when he sees that you don't have any hydras, and you'll be stuck fighting upped range gols with mutas and lings, which isn't that great. Muta is good to keep the terran in their base, but you shouldn't make too many. Make about 8 and drop two evo chambers, begin hydra upgrades, and make a den. Upgrade range and speed, and pump masses of hydras. If you time this correctly, your mutas and residual lings will still overpower their tanks/vultures/gols or at least stop them long enough to amass enough hydras (don't lose your mutas, though, you need them for harassment and guardians, ultraling doesn't fly vs metal). Hive tech when you start your second armor and attack upgrade, and as soon as that's done, greater spire for guardians. From there, just steamroll with hydra/guard. The great thing about mutas is that you can keep the terran contained while you expand, but unless you switch to something more powerful, eventually they're just going to break out with oov amounts of metal. You forgot two major things: Dark swarm and tanks. 8 muta won't do anything to harass vs metal t, all he needs is a few turrets. And if the terran knows how to use scan he's gonna find out about hydra. So;you can't harass+ little muta/ling = him taking his nat and producing tanks to counter hydra. Mass hydra get owned hard by a few siege tanks, and he's gonna be producing more units with the same number of expands. Whilst if you mass muta/ling with your main and nat vs his main then you are getting twice as much gas so you can safely assume 1 muta and 2 lings per gollie he has (muta = 100 minerals and 2 lings =50 with double gas that evens out on a gollie) And if you can keep him from taking nat awhile whilst you expand twice and tech to hive and double evo chambers then its not going to be hard to win. Ultra/ling get owned by gollie/tank on their own, but once you get swarm, swarm+upgraded cracks pathetically own gollies, and ultra can take any tank fire. | ||
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