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Venlow
Profile Joined September 2004
United States110 Posts
April 04 2005 03:59 GMT
#21
nobody here has the hands to pull off bio mech vs a decent stormer
jtan
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden5891 Posts
April 04 2005 05:53 GMT
#22
On April 04 2005 12:59 Venlow wrote:
nobody here has the hands to pull off bio mech vs a decent stormer

Well this attack is supposed to be fast to work, just as many posters said before. So the point is to do enough damage before toss gets enough templars, I guess
Enter a Uh
jtan
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden5891 Posts
April 04 2005 06:09 GMT
#23
On April 04 2005 12:59 Venlow wrote:
nobody here has the hands to pull off bio mech vs a decent stormer


Gillettesemis last year, live comments posted on TL:

On July 09 2004 03:19 Arbiter[frolix] wrote:
Holy.... Control goes mass marines and stomps all over Reach. What the hell?


On July 09 2004 03:20 4.Aiur wrote:
Arbiter...plz tell me ur joking. More details plz...we're dying here.


On July 09 2004 03:22 Arbiter[frolix] wrote:
Control went early expo, then suddenly out of nowhere he was building four barracks! Reach saw them with his obs and started teching to templar but Control always seemed to be one step ahead. By the time he had storm Control was at his natural. Marine power. Holy....


Yes its possible~~ and cool when someone succeeds
Enter a Uh
Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
April 04 2005 08:36 GMT
#24
Dropships seem to work very nicely with infantry because you can put in so many of them.

You can dedicate one dropship to stopping expos in progress, or just simply destroying them. Marines destroy buildings at such amazing speed.

Another to harass base, another to be gay on cliffs.

What I do on cliffs is unload 7 rines 1 medic, don't let toss know they are there. And drop 2 tanks there later and take his expo without him being able to do much.

The idea is to separate his army and gain an economical advantage.

There's no way a 2 base terran who is not being harassed as much can be beaten by a toss that is having trouble exanding.

Then again, I'm only a D noob in PGT :-/

The highest I've beaten is a C- with this strat.
('''(G_G/'''')
EchoOfRain
Profile Joined November 2004
United States516 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-04-04 09:15:28
April 04 2005 09:14 GMT
#25
another good build is rax make 4 marine fact --- tank -- seige--- cc ---then add 2 more rax + another fact and hit him while he takes his 2nd nat. Of coure you make an acad in there for fast double scan to protect from dt, its kinda risky but with proper scouting is pretty damn solid.
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MPXMX
Profile Joined December 2002
Canada4309 Posts
April 04 2005 09:15 GMT
#26
Ala hellghost vs nazgul
inkblot
Profile Joined December 2004
United States1250 Posts
April 04 2005 09:31 GMT
#27
Its a bit of a one-shot thing. You would generally stop doing it after toss gets storm going and switch to mech. Ideally you would win the game before he gets a counter or set him back enough to win anyway.

TreK vs Testie F2F on Nostalgia is a good game showing how infantry can be effective and how it can also be owned. Testie starts mech then drops ~10 barracks though, instead of the other way around. TreK mass expansions and storm won in the end.
TM_Machine
Profile Joined September 2004
United States130 Posts
April 04 2005 09:53 GMT
#28
ive done a 1 rax 2 fact tvp where i just had teh 1 rax pumping reins while i fast vult with mines.... was quite good.
Zerg Zerg Zerg
EchoOfRain
Profile Joined November 2004
United States516 Posts
April 04 2005 12:51 GMT
#29
On April 04 2005 18:15 MPXMX wrote:
Ala hellghost vs nazgul

hellghost did that? Pretty cool for a build that i found on my own to be used by him (not saying i used it first just never saw it used in a rep before because i dont watch all that many reps).
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phexac
Profile Joined March 2004
United States186 Posts
April 04 2005 13:50 GMT
#30
Infantry can be very strong vs toss if used right.
EchoOfRain
Profile Joined November 2004
United States516 Posts
April 04 2005 16:40 GMT
#31
basically bio is strong until protoss charges enough storm to cast multiple storms on your mandm. So the key obviously is to mass just enough very quickly to quickly push out and win. Vs most strong protoss you wont be able to do this. From here you need to get a group of vultures to vaid vs temps and to keep him from going pure mass speed zeal templar which is unstopabble mid game by a biomech army. You can keep making marines but vultures become more cost efective. Your bio at this point should be completely behind your thanks and should up to target zeals and then quickly move back until you can target and kill his temps.
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Resonate
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8402 Posts
April 04 2005 16:58 GMT
#32
loads of progamers have won with bacanic terran vs other progamers in pro matches. It's not reliable, but it's viable. thus it gets used occasionally.

It's like going reaver PvT, it's not reliable so it doesn't get used a lot.
Memory lane in nice
GroT
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Belgium3003 Posts
April 04 2005 20:09 GMT
#33
IMO it's a viable cheese opening against a range goon build if you can come out after he expanded with some timing and luck


might wonna do it if you're not feeling confident in a real game
DANCE ALL DAY
stimpack[pG]
Profile Joined November 2004
Philippines88 Posts
April 05 2005 02:04 GMT
#34
On April 04 2005 10:55 maleorderbride wrote:
so is stimpack[pg] a fake? why is he allowed to be a poser?

I asking this because I have read 3 strategy posts by him and was dismayed that someone with [pg] by their name would think that way. I really hope its the language barrier not a skill barrier...

y the hell do you care so much about the name that i used? [pg] doesnt mean "pro-gamer" for your information you asshole, it stands for "phil-gamers"... and what if i say i just like using it because i just like it and i find it cool... is there any rule that you cant do that? and y the hell do you keep on flaming people, you think you're so good a lot more people are much better than you and their just humble about it! if i can just change my nick i would coz i think it affects you too much!
so just stfu and mind your own busnes!
iNsaNe-
Profile Joined January 2005
Finland5201 Posts
April 05 2005 03:59 GMT
#35
stimpack, haven't seen stupidier post for ages anywhere. Thanks for that.
It takes a fool to remain sane.
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
April 05 2005 04:09 GMT
#36
Bio is usually something ppl do after getting gas rushed in my experience, still it's very good against 1gate if you have the element of surprise.
EchoOfRain
Profile Joined November 2004
United States516 Posts
April 05 2005 08:06 GMT
#37
On April 05 2005 11:04 stimpack[pG] wrote:
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On April 04 2005 10:55 maleorderbride wrote:
so is stimpack[pg] a fake? why is he allowed to be a poser?

I asking this because I have read 3 strategy posts by him and was dismayed that someone with [pg] by their name would think that way. I really hope its the language barrier not a skill barrier...

y the hell do you care so much about the name that i used? [pg] doesnt mean "pro-gamer" for your information you asshole, it stands for "phil-gamers"... and what if i say i just like using it because i just like it and i find it cool... is there any rule that you cant do that? and y the hell do you keep on flaming people, you think you're so good a lot more people are much better than you and their just humble about it! if i can just change my nick i would coz i think it affects you too much!
so just stfu and mind your own busnes!

how about you think of a new clan that isnt already taken you dip shit.
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Gryffindor_us
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States5606 Posts
April 05 2005 11:35 GMT
#38
Bacanic / Bechanic is sexy.

NaDa vs Reach KT-KTF Season 2.

Requiem

NaDa crushes Reach with mass mm and two tanks.
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
April 05 2005 21:31 GMT
#39
Timing.
All in the timing.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
MPXMX
Profile Joined December 2002
Canada4309 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-04-05 21:33:22
April 05 2005 21:33 GMT
#40
EchoOfRain

http://www.teamliquid.net/replay/download.php?replay=154

Comments here:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=782

Nazgul vs Hellghost, where hellghost does exactly what you described And the game has an awesome ending... It may be broken though.

Anyway, it's not so much that you discovered something that works, it's that hellghost was able to make it work. Some other players would too, some wouldn't. So many things aren't used though they work; just that metal is easiest to execute
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