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TT1
Canada10004 Posts
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Megaliskuu
United States5123 Posts
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28638 Posts
I do feel like there's sometimes an angle that can let a few hydras attack a forge that is above or below too, but I don't know how consistently that can happen. | ||
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LeeDawg
United States1306 Posts
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Jealous
10126 Posts
On December 14 2020 05:24 LeeDawg wrote: how often should I get the vessel energy upgrade? is it ever worth it, should I always get it after EMP/Irradiate, should I wait until very late game? I've never seen what high level players do with it. You can get 3 Irradiates instead of 2. | ||
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EMPaThy789
New Zealand878 Posts
It also increases the starting energy of newly built vessels which is handy | ||
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kogeT
Poland2037 Posts
On December 14 2020 05:24 LeeDawg wrote: how often should I get the vessel energy upgrade? is it ever worth it, should I always get it after EMP/Irradiate, should I wait until very late game? I've never seen what high level players do with it. 100% of time you 2 port vessel in TvZ, value from this upgrade is really big. I would make it after irradiate, usually around 4-6 vessels. | ||
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MeSaber
Sweden1235 Posts
On December 14 2020 05:24 LeeDawg wrote: how often should I get the vessel energy upgrade? is it ever worth it, should I always get it after EMP/Irradiate, should I wait until very late game? I've never seen what high level players do with it. The earlier you get it the more value it gives. It has the most value when you have many vessels that doesnt instantly deplete their energy (goes above 200). And it also gives starting energy of 62 (+12). The upgrade needs to be finished before you start producing a vessel which is ashame. | ||
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TelecoM
United States10668 Posts
EDIT : I assume this effects all units with energy lol I guess this is kind of a dumb question, but I haven't really ever tested it, it feels like it does. | ||
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Anc13nt
1557 Posts
On December 21 2020 09:10 TelecoM wrote: Does the High Templar energy upgrade also increase the starting energy of HT's when they are newly made after the upgrade? EDIT : I assume this effects all units with energy lol I guess this is kind of a dumb question, but I haven't really ever tested it, it feels like it does. yes, it is a very important upgrade in the lategame because hts will come out with 62 energy after the khaydarin amulet upgrade so by the time they reach the natural you will have storm ready, which is very useful for defense | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28638 Posts
Arbiters are the same way. However iirc queens are not. For queens (and I think defilers), if you start building queens and the energy upgrade finishes after you've started, then the queens will start with 62 energy. | ||
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Armathai
1023 Posts
On December 21 2020 10:05 Liquid`Drone wrote: There's a reason why it might not always feel like that's how it works - it's not always how it works. If you have started building your templar before your energy upgrade is finished, but your energy upgrade finishes before the templar is done, then you don't get the additional 12 energy. Arbiters are the same way. However iirc queens are not. For queens (and I think defilers), if you start building queens and the energy upgrade finishes after you've started, then the queens will start with 62 energy. I just learned something new about BW once again after all the decades, couldn't believe the Zerg energy upgrades behaved differently than the T&P ones but it's true! | ||
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LeeDawg
United States1306 Posts
On December 21 2020 10:05 Liquid`Drone wrote: There's a reason why it might not always feel like that's how it works - it's not always how it works. If you have started building your templar before your energy upgrade is finished, but your energy upgrade finishes before the templar is done, then you don't get the additional 12 energy. Arbiters are the same way. However iirc queens are not. For queens (and I think defilers), if you start building queens and the energy upgrade finishes after you've started, then the queens will start with 62 energy. That is the most bizarre spaghetti code thing I've ever heard of in this beautiful mess of a game we all love. | ||
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Jonoman92
United States9103 Posts
On December 21 2020 10:40 Armathai wrote: I just learned something new about BW once again after all the decades, couldn't believe the Zerg energy upgrades behaved differently than the T&P ones but it's true! Me too. I primarily play protoss so I'd figured this behavior was the same for all races... | ||
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Jealous
10126 Posts
On December 21 2020 11:04 Jonoman92 wrote: Me too. I primarily play protoss so I'd figured this behavior was the same for all races... Me three. I am still in disbelief. Drone has to make a video proving it. | ||
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Jonoman92
United States9103 Posts
edit: I'm bored will go test. Confirmed (I only checked on queens.) | ||
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Jealous
10126 Posts
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TelecoM
United States10668 Posts
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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vOdToasT
Sweden2870 Posts
There's a reason why it might not always feel like that's how it works - it's not always how it works. If you have started building your templar before your energy upgrade is finished, but your energy upgrade finishes before the templar is done, then you don't get the additional 12 energy. Arbiters are the same way. However iirc queens are not. For queens (and I think defilers), if you start building queens and the energy upgrade finishes after you've started, then the queens will start with 62 energy. What.................. this should be patched | ||
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