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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10195 Posts
January 05 2021 08:43 GMT
#9261
On January 05 2021 17:22 Liquid`Drone wrote:
they do 10 damage to each other and it's 8 hits to kill a vulture. If two progamers are fighting vulture vs vulture the micro is going to be absolutely constant - might be hard to notice the amount of 'select x vultures to finish off vulture' that is going on.

1 base 3 fact vulture vs 3 fact vulture is the best form of tvt by far. :D

Alright, allow me a little space for hyperbole, but it WAS indeed silly to watch a game of that nature.

If I had to play 3 Fac Vult vs. 3 Fac Vult I'd probably cry.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
January 27 2021 13:36 GMT
#9262
Hey fellow zergs, do you still you default S when making scourges or changed it to something like C? If yes, isn't it risky especially in ZvZ, while spamming S you can accidentally make scourges when you wanted to spawn something else.
sunbeams are never made like me...
lavatein
Profile Joined January 2021
1 Post
January 28 2021 05:56 GMT
#9263
how do you stop reaver drops
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10195 Posts
January 28 2021 06:08 GMT
#9264
On January 28 2021 14:56 lavatein wrote:
how do you stop reaver drops

F2 select workers F3 Mineral walk F2 select workers F3 Mineral walk 1a2a with closest forces that can kill shuttle /reaver.

Or post more info/a replay so we can know the actual situation you were facing.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2040 Posts
January 28 2021 09:17 GMT
#9265
On January 28 2021 14:56 lavatein wrote:
how do you stop reaver drops


As Terran? You need turrets, otherwise you cant stop them.
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Optimate
Profile Joined August 2020
249 Posts
February 03 2021 04:09 GMT
#9266
Are Devourers ever useful for ZvP (besides when they have carriers), and if so, when?
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10195 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-03 05:05:22
February 03 2021 05:05 GMT
#9267
On February 03 2021 13:09 Optimate wrote:
Are Devourers ever useful for ZvP (besides when they have carriers), and if so, when?

When you do a lategame Guardian transition to catch a Protoss who lost all their Corsairs off-guard, to keep the Guardians viable after the Protoss resumes Corsair production.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
February 03 2021 09:28 GMT
#9268
On February 03 2021 13:09 Optimate wrote:
Are Devourers ever useful for ZvP (besides when they have carriers), and if so, when?


guardian with devourer support is surprisingly common in lategame ZvP. A protoss who is down on bases and is trying to turtle on ht cannon and reaver often will not be prepared enough to deal with guardians attacking multiple locations.
LeeDawg
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1306 Posts
February 04 2021 04:41 GMT
#9269
Is there somewhere that concisely explains the differences in how units process orders, i.e. right click vs. A-move
:-)
Optimate
Profile Joined August 2020
249 Posts
February 17 2021 21:33 GMT
#9270
What is up with the +1 Armor PvZ meta nowadays?
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2040 Posts
February 18 2021 13:58 GMT
#9271
It is particularly strong vs hydralisks, and all zergs go 6 hath hydra. It is still +1 attack, but followed by +1 armor for zealot resistence (and you save some gas for HT)
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DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
February 27 2021 04:07 GMT
#9272
So I pretty much only play BW with my friends nowadays. I have been a life long Terran diehard. However, at our newbie fest sessions, there are pretty much all Terran and Protoss, but only 1 Zerg. So, to make things more interesting I would like to make the dreaded switch from a life of tanks, vultures and goliaths to the swarm.

Id like to know if there is a safe and effective build I can use in all 3 matchups? I simply dont have time to learn and practice matchups against all 3. Was hoping there was something Zerg had in its vast arsenal of builds for this. Thanks everyone!
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10195 Posts
February 27 2021 06:43 GMT
#9273
On February 27 2021 13:07 DyEnasTy wrote:
So I pretty much only play BW with my friends nowadays. I have been a life long Terran diehard. However, at our newbie fest sessions, there are pretty much all Terran and Protoss, but only 1 Zerg. So, to make things more interesting I would like to make the dreaded switch from a life of tanks, vultures and goliaths to the swarm.

Id like to know if there is a safe and effective build I can use in all 3 matchups? I simply dont have time to learn and practice matchups against all 3. Was hoping there was something Zerg had in its vast arsenal of builds for this. Thanks everyone!

Going 10 over hatch should work vs most Terran and Protoss builds if you guys are all casual players IMO?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
February 27 2021 07:31 GMT
#9274
On February 27 2021 15:43 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2021 13:07 DyEnasTy wrote:
So I pretty much only play BW with my friends nowadays. I have been a life long Terran diehard. However, at our newbie fest sessions, there are pretty much all Terran and Protoss, but only 1 Zerg. So, to make things more interesting I would like to make the dreaded switch from a life of tanks, vultures and goliaths to the swarm.

Id like to know if there is a safe and effective build I can use in all 3 matchups? I simply dont have time to learn and practice matchups against all 3. Was hoping there was something Zerg had in its vast arsenal of builds for this. Thanks everyone!

Going 10 over hatch should work vs most Terran and Protoss builds if you guys are all casual players IMO?


Yes we are very casual lol.
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8732 Posts
February 27 2021 08:45 GMT
#9275
9 pool works against all matchups and i would say is the best against absolute casuals. a lot of beginners have trouble dealing with the initial 6 lings lol
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10195 Posts
February 27 2021 18:08 GMT
#9276
On February 27 2021 17:45 evilfatsh1t wrote:
9 pool works against all matchups and i would say is the best against absolute casuals. a lot of beginners have trouble dealing with the initial 6 lings lol

I would suggest Overpool instead because it is better for the midgame and winning with the first 6 lings is boring xD
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2278 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-05 04:55:43
March 05 2021 04:52 GMT
#9277
solid pvp response to nexus > 2ble gate?
maps like benzene or huge 4 player;


thinking of dt double nexus
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8732 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-05 05:22:24
March 05 2021 05:22 GMT
#9278
whats nexus double gate? you mean dt expand?
no one goes 12 nex in pvp
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10195 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-05 06:10:39
March 05 2021 06:07 GMT
#9279
On March 05 2021 14:22 evilfatsh1t wrote:
whats nexus double gate? you mean dt expand?
no one goes 12 nex in pvp

Lol 12 nex into 2 gate was definitely a thing, not sure if it still is now. Did you think the person asking the question just made it up??

It depends on when you scout it. I've seen people respond with proxy Shield Battery when going 2 Gate of their own, Robo outside the natural if they opened 1 Gate Gas.

Edit: Here is Stork doing proxy Reaver:

"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8732 Posts
March 05 2021 10:17 GMT
#9280
On March 05 2021 15:07 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2021 14:22 evilfatsh1t wrote:
whats nexus double gate? you mean dt expand?
no one goes 12 nex in pvp

Lol 12 nex into 2 gate was definitely a thing, not sure if it still is now. Did you think the person asking the question just made it up??

It depends on when you scout it. I've seen people respond with proxy Shield Battery when going 2 Gate of their own, Robo outside the natural if they opened 1 Gate Gas.

Edit: Here is Stork doing proxy Reaver:

https://youtu.be/N4O1fGZXChY

i know it exists. im saying no one uses the build. i found it unlikely that he was asking for a response for a build that he probably will never face
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