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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10232 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-26 00:14:46
April 26 2020 00:03 GMT
#8961
On April 26 2020 06:53 plast1c wrote:
What do I exactly have to do in terms of probe control when a zealot or ling gets into my mineral line in order to bug them out? I mean this bugging out the zeal/ling with a swarm of probes so they do not attack anything in the end. Probe drill?Playing protoss btw.

Right click the mineral patch next to where the offending unit is, then a-click once they are stacked up enough.

I usually do a-move and I'm not 100% sure if there is a difference, to be honest. Figured I'd edit this in here in case someone else has a better take.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4139 Posts
April 26 2020 02:08 GMT
#8962
On April 25 2020 18:23 Anc13nt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2020 01:47 Dante08 wrote:
How do you beat zerg ultra rush build with no lurkers no mutas hidden third and mass sunken? By the time I realize it zerg is already on +3 ultras with speed while my +2 is not even done.

double

if you see evo chamber and a queen's nest, they're probably going ultra. tbh, usually evo chambers are enough of a giveaway but I caution that there are many zerg mid game builds that rely on quick double evo chambers like some lurker based builds and hydra lurker.

But even before this, you should scan and see their larva to confirm whether or not they are making mutas so that you can save money on turrets. A lot of zerg like to ultra rush with a spire not to make a muta flock, but to just make one for scouting and maybe the terran player has to acknowledge the possibly of a muta attack. A zerg player that has opted for a lair but is producing low amounts of either hydras or mutas is more likly to be fooled .

in general, a good way to respond is to go 7 rax with 2 starports making vessels once you confirmed their build. Prioritize double ebay upgrades over all else because they are possibly the most important factor in a fight aside from raw numbers and positioning your army in a ball (similar concept to anti-muta micro). Also, if you confirm they have no spire, dropping behind mineral line is pretty good. It's hard to defend 3 base against this style so massing on 2 base is preferable. Also, it sounds tempting to do a tank push but the sunkens usually buy enough time so that tank pushes aren't that amazing.


Thanks this seems like a good response, usually I will get tanks but sunkens buy enough time for ultras with the carapace upgrade to wreck my marines.

Forgot to mention I scouted zerg last and he did like a fast gas while hiding his 3rd so I thought it was 2 hatch muta which most zergs do nowadays. Once I scanned the evo chamber and queens nest I tried to push but he had so many sunkens up that I couldn't do anything. This build just seems really strong if you don't manage to scout early.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
April 28 2020 12:22 GMT
#8963
How do you respond to 2 hatch muta? I mean after the mutas don't come, what do you do?
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8764 Posts
April 28 2020 12:43 GMT
#8964
very generally speaking you defend until you get +1 and you try to advance. if you cant then you wait until you have vessels and then you try and take map control.
its pretty hard to give more accurate details because the timings for when you advance differ depending on how much zerg commits to mutas.
for zergs its pretty open as to what they can do. they can try and hover around 11 mutas and expand quicker, they can get more zerglings, they can get more mutas, they can do muta/ling all ins, they can do muta/lurker all ins.
not much terran can do while you get your +1 and sizeable mm army up besides looking at zergs muta count and scanning for zerg expo timing and den timings
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
April 28 2020 15:52 GMT
#8965
I was asking Dante08 what he does. To help him. To see what he is thinking when he thinks it is 2 base muta and the mutas doesn't show up. What did he do beforehand?

Only a few maps have a third with a single entrance that is a narrow ramp and they will usually need a forward deployed hatch to have enough sunkens to delay tanks long enough. Realistically speaking, getting chitinous up ultras is about the same time as getting dark swarm up, so if +3 ultras are around, so would a funny dark swarm rush build.

The only info we have (now, we didn't even know what race) is that he makes marines and tanks. Maybe his comsat is super late. Maybe his science vessel is super late or he never even makes a starport. Maybe he just sits on 2 base forever and then get rolled over by the ultras.
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
May 02 2020 05:52 GMT
#8966
why is it that when a game disconnects from server in ranked, I usually get no mmr when I win but I usually lose mmr when I lose? I know it's a coincidence but it's still annoying. I don't remember it being like this until the ladder matched players to Koreans a lot more.
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
May 13 2020 08:12 GMT
#8967
2 questions. Firstly, I have seen pros make natural assimilator often at around 4:30 but also around 3:50. In what circumstance should I take natural assimilator at 3:50 instead of 4:30 (soon after stargate starts)?

Second question is when I do 9734, I find it hard to deal with an opponent who slips zealots at my third. I feel like I have to pull my drones and take hydras from my natural to defend but that might buy them enough time to complete +1 melee weapons or even save part of their wall so I am wondering if there is some other way to deal with this.
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1441 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-14 19:31:37
May 14 2020 18:05 GMT
#8968
Question about the hitboxes of buildings that are currently out of my vision (but not anymore covered by Fog of War):

It seems to me that buildings have a larger hitbox when you don't have active vision of them. The hitbox seems to extend further to the top of the screen then.
If the building is out of vision and I a-move or just right-click a unit into a certain area above the normal hitbox of such a building, then the unit will register the command as if I told it to attack that building specifically.
If I click the same spot with vision then the unit behaves as intended.

It's actually a quite considerable extension of the hitbox, and it must've happened to me many times that I accidentally gave a direct attack-command because of this instead of a-moving close to the building. Until now, if I noticed this (as you see the red circle flashing around the building), I just quickly repeated the command a little further away from the building to be sure and didn't really test it.

I'm just curious why that is and if this is consistent throughout all buildings...
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
May 21 2020 11:57 GMT
#8969
Does anyone remember the vod/clip of some old progamer (i think it was nal ra???) and hes talking about how flash joined their team as a rookie and he was battling everyone and winning and the progamer was getting nervous because they didnt want some rookie coming in and beating everyone.

I would really like to find it and rewatch it
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
May 21 2020 12:53 GMT
#8970

Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
May 21 2020 13:20 GMT
#8971
Thank you so much
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
arkedos
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1426 Posts
May 26 2020 11:01 GMT
#8972
When I want to start to delve a bit into Brood War, where do folks play nowadays? ICCUP or just on the Bnet servers? Or any other Gateway?
love esports - hate homophobia
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
May 26 2020 11:26 GMT
#8973
On May 26 2020 20:01 arkedos wrote:
When I want to start to delve a bit into Brood War, where do folks play nowadays? ICCUP or just on the Bnet servers? Or any other Gateway?

Bnet servers is where things are. ICCup is still active, but the player count is extremely low so best to play RM as bad as it can be at times (ladder lag from what I hear).
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
insanimsi
Profile Joined May 2020
Turkey12 Posts
May 26 2020 12:06 GMT
#8974
Can you say me what is the RM.
I am a ultimate noob but i like playing online.
And i saw you in shieldbattery topic, is this a popular server.
Througs in chaos. Technopat Sosyal:Insanimsi
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
May 26 2020 13:50 GMT
#8975
On May 26 2020 21:06 insanimsi wrote:
Can you say me what is the RM.
I am a ultimate noob but i like playing online.
And i saw you in shieldbattery topic, is this a popular server.


could it be? the legend himself?
pebble444
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Italy2498 Posts
May 26 2020 18:45 GMT
#8976
On May 26 2020 21:06 insanimsi wrote:
Can you say me what is the RM.
I am a ultimate noob but i like playing online.
And i saw you in shieldbattery topic, is this a popular server.


RM is Stacraft Remastered, which came out in 2017, they gave the game new graphics and most players nowadays play on the original servers which i' m sure you are familiar with (Europe, East US, West US, etc.) .

You can buy the game again here: https://eu.shop.battle.net/product/starcraft-remastered

You need at least Windows 7 or apple to run this game now (does not work with WIndows xp or previous versions anymore.

you don' t need to download a launcher, as it comes with battle.net launcher (you need an account)
"Awaken my Child, and embrace the Glory that is your Birthright"
insanimsi
Profile Joined May 2020
Turkey12 Posts
May 26 2020 20:20 GMT
#8977
On May 27 2020 03:45 pebble444 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2020 21:06 insanimsi wrote:
Can you say me what is the RM.
I am a ultimate noob but i like playing online.
And i saw you in shieldbattery topic, is this a popular server.


RM is Stacraft Remastered, which came out in 2017, they gave the game new graphics and most players nowadays play on the original servers which i' m sure you are familiar with (Europe, East US, West US, etc.) .

You can buy the game again here: https://eu.shop.battle.net/product/starcraft-remastered

You need at least Windows 7 or apple to run this game now (does not work with WIndows xp or previous versions anymore.

you don' t need to download a launcher, as it comes with battle.net launcher (you need an account)

Sorry i know Starcraft Remastered but i am a stupid person that can not understand RM=Remastered.
I like 1.16 more and new one is opening so slow (i meanr 1.23). Can anyone tell me online 1.16 servers.
Througs in chaos. Technopat Sosyal:Insanimsi
insanimsi
Profile Joined May 2020
Turkey12 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-26 20:26:14
May 26 2020 20:23 GMT
#8978
On May 26 2020 22:50 Anc13nt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2020 21:06 insanimsi wrote:
Can you say me what is the RM.
I am a ultimate noob but i like playing online.
And i saw you in shieldbattery topic, is this a popular server.


could it be? the legend himself?

Did you mean Lord of Noobs
Or creator of Chaoslauncher.
Ya da Turk musun :D.
Througs in chaos. Technopat Sosyal:Insanimsi
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10232 Posts
May 26 2020 20:35 GMT
#8979
On May 27 2020 05:20 insanimsi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2020 03:45 pebble444 wrote:
On May 26 2020 21:06 insanimsi wrote:
Can you say me what is the RM.
I am a ultimate noob but i like playing online.
And i saw you in shieldbattery topic, is this a popular server.


RM is Stacraft Remastered, which came out in 2017, they gave the game new graphics and most players nowadays play on the original servers which i' m sure you are familiar with (Europe, East US, West US, etc.) .

You can buy the game again here: https://eu.shop.battle.net/product/starcraft-remastered

You need at least Windows 7 or apple to run this game now (does not work with WIndows xp or previous versions anymore.

you don' t need to download a launcher, as it comes with battle.net launcher (you need an account)

Sorry i know Starcraft Remastered but i am a stupid person that can not understand RM=Remastered.
I like 1.16 more and new one is opening so slow (i meanr 1.23). Can anyone tell me online 1.16 servers.

ICCup.

https://iccup.com/sc_start.html
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
insanimsi
Profile Joined May 2020
Turkey12 Posts
May 26 2020 20:42 GMT
#8980
On May 27 2020 05:35 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2020 05:20 insanimsi wrote:
On May 27 2020 03:45 pebble444 wrote:
On May 26 2020 21:06 insanimsi wrote:
Can you say me what is the RM.
I am a ultimate noob but i like playing online.
And i saw you in shieldbattery topic, is this a popular server.


RM is Stacraft Remastered, which came out in 2017, they gave the game new graphics and most players nowadays play on the original servers which i' m sure you are familiar with (Europe, East US, West US, etc.) .

You can buy the game again here: https://eu.shop.battle.net/product/starcraft-remastered

You need at least Windows 7 or apple to run this game now (does not work with WIndows xp or previous versions anymore.

you don' t need to download a launcher, as it comes with battle.net launcher (you need an account)

Sorry i know Starcraft Remastered but i am a stupid person that can not understand RM=Remastered.
I like 1.16 more and new one is opening so slow (i meanr 1.23). Can anyone tell me online 1.16 servers.

ICCup.

https://iccup.com/sc_start.html
Sorry sir but i know iccup too.
Througs in chaos. Technopat Sosyal:Insanimsi
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