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y2k
Profile Joined January 2019
31 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-06 23:03:40
August 06 2019 23:02 GMT
#8561
Where to stuck sair probe at top left and bot right on Gladiator? Minerals are way too far off the edge so I'm thinking maybe a weird simcity could do the trick, but I have no idea what that would be... Hints?
fearthequeen
Profile Joined November 2011
United States788 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-07 08:01:54
August 06 2019 23:46 GMT
#8562
Edited: obsolete
NAKR`flying
fearthequeen
Profile Joined November 2011
United States788 Posts
August 07 2019 00:10 GMT
#8563
Do BW pros use an in game timer during official/sponsored events? Was this always the case in official matches?
NAKR`flying
EndingLife
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1602 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-07 00:37:00
August 07 2019 00:14 GMT
#8564
On August 07 2019 08:02 y2k wrote:
Where to stuck sair probe at top left and bot right on Gladiator? Minerals are way too far off the edge so I'm thinking maybe a weird simcity could do the trick, but I have no idea what that would be... Hints?

I haven't played many Pvz on Gladiator but is it possible to jump a probe behind your natural mineral line?

Edit: Can't you trap a probe to the right of the far right mineral patch at the top left base? If that works, same applies to bottom right. Not near a PC to test, sorry.


6:55 jumping confirmed -.-
Steal his opening while you're at it!!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10333 Posts
August 07 2019 01:00 GMT
#8565
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"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28804 Posts
August 07 2019 01:11 GMT
#8566
citadel below 2 pylons with natural terrain blocking above pylons lets you trap a probe.
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Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1470 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-07 05:21:23
August 07 2019 05:20 GMT
#8567
On August 07 2019 09:14 EndingLife wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2019 08:02 y2k wrote:
Where to stuck sair probe at top left and bot right on Gladiator? Minerals are way too far off the edge so I'm thinking maybe a weird simcity could do the trick, but I have no idea what that would be... Hints?

I haven't played many Pvz on Gladiator but is it possible to jump a probe behind your natural mineral line?

Edit: Can't you trap a probe to the right of the far right mineral patch at the top left base? If that works, same applies to bottom right. Not near a PC to test, sorry.

https://youtu.be/PBpUj8Enk68
6:55 jumping confirmed -.-
Steal his opening while you're at it!!


not on topic, but holy shit, watching/hearing two progamers play like this at once with splitscreen is monstrous....
fefil
Profile Joined July 2019
92 Posts
August 07 2019 15:51 GMT
#8568
On August 07 2019 09:10 fearthequeen wrote:
Do BW pros use an in game timer during official/sponsored events? Was this always the case in official matches?

Never seen that no. I think thats why a good amount of pros still play without it. Maybe the rules changed since its a part of the game now though.
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2356 Posts
August 09 2019 06:22 GMT
#8569
was trying to watch my last replay, and got this error...

wtf?

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ἡ τῆς Νεμέσεως τάξις
fearthequeen
Profile Joined November 2011
United States788 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-09 07:56:45
August 09 2019 07:56 GMT
#8570
Try renaming the file to something shorter. I've been out of the loop but this may help.
NAKR`flying
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2042 Posts
August 09 2019 10:49 GMT
#8571
Anyone seen pros playing new ladder maps, e.g trespass and powerbond? Everyone seems to be avoiding these maps at any cost..
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
asel
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Germany1602 Posts
August 09 2019 14:23 GMT
#8572
Maybe they don't want to give away their builds.
eSTRO for life | #3 Sea.Really fan! | GGoliath! | aeterna societas honoris | cbta~ | Flash makes Terran look like Toss | aka RevaL
fefil
Profile Joined July 2019
92 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-09 21:56:15
August 09 2019 21:53 GMT
#8573
On August 09 2019 19:49 kogeT wrote:
Anyone seen pros playing new ladder maps, e.g trespass and powerbond? Everyone seems to be avoiding these maps at any cost..

what the hell is even wrong with powerbond?

anyway heres mini playing on it
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1156 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-10 04:35:15
August 10 2019 04:34 GMT
#8574
On August 07 2019 09:10 fearthequeen wrote:
Do BW pros use an in game timer during official/sponsored events? Was this always the case in official matches?


yes they do. its been allowed since RM as its part of the game feature now.
you can look up ASL8 player FPV VODs at http://bj.afreecatv.com/afstar/ and http://bj.afreecatv.com/afstar0 and see for yourself
fefil
Profile Joined July 2019
92 Posts
August 10 2019 16:16 GMT
#8575
What are some signs that a Terran is about to attack? Im 1800 P and got fucked yesterday by some guy that sat on 2 base with only 2 factories pumping out siege tanks. I figured he was gonna go macro since, yknow, fuckin 2 factories only but he pushes out with 12 tanks and a handful of vultures and just sieges up my third while I was going for upgrades and arbiter tech. I had 5 gateways making goons.

Thats just one example.

Further, when should I add zealot legs in PvT? I think I would have won that game if I had it but I had pure dragoon with two shuttles filled with zealots.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10333 Posts
August 10 2019 17:28 GMT
#8576
On August 11 2019 01:16 fefil wrote:
What are some signs that a Terran is about to attack? Im 1800 P and got fucked yesterday by some guy that sat on 2 base with only 2 factories pumping out siege tanks. I figured he was gonna go macro since, yknow, fuckin 2 factories only but he pushes out with 12 tanks and a handful of vultures and just sieges up my third while I was going for upgrades and arbiter tech. I had 5 gateways making goons.

Thats just one example.

Further, when should I add zealot legs in PvT? I think I would have won that game if I had it but I had pure dragoon with two shuttles filled with zealots.

Post the rep.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
fefil
Profile Joined July 2019
92 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-13 21:36:06
August 13 2019 21:35 GMT
#8577
How tf do you beat 2 base lurker drop rush because this is bullshit. pvz. there's no way to know if he's doing a regular hydra bust or if he's going lurker drops at least until your corsair pops out then maybe you can scout the lair. but still what the hell? you're nowhere near obs yet and he just dropped 2 lurkers in each mineral line. pretty fuckin tilted right now just lost to this nub.

whatever advice anyone gives me, first of all, thank you. but please do not tell me "snipe the ovies with your corsair" because that is not reliable enough
fearthequeen
Profile Joined November 2011
United States788 Posts
August 13 2019 21:49 GMT
#8578
On August 14 2019 06:35 fefil wrote:
How tf do you beat 2 base lurker drop rush because this is bullshit. pvz...


What's the situation exactly? Are you able to scout lair + den? What Intel do you have?

Assuming you scout lair + den without any other tech, and they are staying on 2 base, you can assume it's drops and add cannons>robo as necessary.
NAKR`flying
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10333 Posts
August 13 2019 22:10 GMT
#8579
On August 14 2019 06:35 fefil wrote:
How tf do you beat 2 base lurker drop rush because this is bullshit. pvz. there's no way to know if he's doing a regular hydra bust or if he's going lurker drops at least until your corsair pops out then maybe you can scout the lair. but still what the hell? you're nowhere near obs yet and he just dropped 2 lurkers in each mineral line. pretty fuckin tilted right now just lost to this nub.

whatever advice anyone gives me, first of all, thank you. but please do not tell me "snipe the ovies with your corsair" because that is not reliable enough

???

Scouting for Overlords in proximity to your bases is the straight up counter to getting 2 cm lurker dropped in your mineral lines lmao.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
y2k
Profile Joined January 2019
31 Posts
August 13 2019 23:42 GMT
#8580
On August 14 2019 06:35 fefil wrote:
How tf do you beat 2 base lurker drop rush because this is bullshit. pvz. there's no way to know if he's doing a regular hydra bust or if he's going lurker drops at least until your corsair pops out then maybe you can scout the lair. but still what the hell? you're nowhere near obs yet and he just dropped 2 lurkers in each mineral line. pretty fuckin tilted right now just lost to this nub.

whatever advice anyone gives me, first of all, thank you. but please do not tell me "snipe the ovies with your corsair" because that is not reliable enough



A few things:

1. Two base lurker drop is considered cheese, so these are sometimes really tricky to scout if your opponent is doing everything they can to deny scouting. But if they are, why not take the precaution steps and not risk losing straight away?

2. As previously pointed, what intel do you have? Did you scout they did not have a third base really late (CHEESE)? Did you scout fast lair with 2 gas and no spire (CHEESE)? Did you see hydra den + lair with no other tech or evo chambers? If you post the replay where you lost to that it'd be much easier to tell you how you could have spotted it...

3. If you are scared, why do you not just add a cannon at each mineral line? That would be 300 minerals and unless you are 2000+ mmr I do not think that you'll lose because you did that instead of building 3 zeals for example... The approach I took when I did not understand the matches well enough was: try to stay alive a.k.a. make as much defense as it makes you comfortable then try to win. As you progress and you get better at scouting and defending you'll naturally see yourself needing less and less of that so it's fine, just let your style evolve with you. Most obvious answer given the situation you describe would really be "be more active with your sairs" either by killing ovies near your base or just actively scouting. Of course not everyone can do that, so just make those cannons they both detect and shoot at lurkers so you're good.

Take this with a grain of salt, I'm no gosu and that is just my take on the situation.
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