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fearthequeen
United States727 Posts
On August 14 2019 07:10 Jealous wrote: ??? Scouting for Overlords in proximity to your bases is the straight up counter to getting 2 cm lurker dropped in your mineral lines lmao. Who knows if he's talking about slowdrop or not though. We need more replay/info. | ||
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fefil
92 Posts
On August 14 2019 07:10 Jealous wrote: ??? Scouting for Overlords in proximity to your bases is the straight up counter to getting 2 cm lurker dropped in your mineral lines lmao. ??????????????? you always send the first corsair to his main and ignore any overlords at first, unless you got a lucky probe scout and know what tech hes going. second corsair will pop out but by the time the two corsairs group together (and the third ones about to pop) the drop is already underway. | ||
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fearthequeen
United States727 Posts
Not trying to be rude, but you will get a better response with a standalone thread in strategy. | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia4899 Posts
On August 14 2019 09:59 fefil wrote: ??????????????? you always send the first corsair to his main and ignore any overlords at first, unless you got a lucky probe scout and know what tech hes going. second corsair will pop out but by the time the two corsairs group together (and the third ones about to pop) the drop is already underway. your first corsair should be able to give you enough information with enough time to react. 2 bases only with no spire is an all in. if youre not getting this information quick enough then your first corsair timing is shit. | ||
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fefil
92 Posts
On August 14 2019 11:30 evilfatsh1t wrote: your first corsair should be able to give you enough information with enough time to react. 2 bases only with no spire is an all in. if youre not getting this information quick enough then your first corsair timing is shit. my first corsair timing might be shit. my question is, if i see what looks to be a hydra bust (but then with a fast lair) should I just get a cannon in my mineral lines? i played against a 3 base variant of this today. i make like 4 extra cannons at my nat, hold the "hydra bust" (quotation marks because its a half assed hydra bust with a lair behind it) and then die to the lurker drop. i think the key here is to just make a cannon in my mineral lines when i see this with my corsair? | ||
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kogeT
Poland1493 Posts
On August 14 2019 06:35 fefil wrote: How tf do you beat 2 base lurker drop rush because this is bullshit. pvz. there's no way to know if he's doing a regular hydra bust or if he's going lurker drops at least until your corsair pops out then maybe you can scout the lair. but still what the hell? you're nowhere near obs yet and he just dropped 2 lurkers in each mineral line. pretty fuckin tilted right now just lost to this nub. whatever advice anyone gives me, first of all, thank you. but please do not tell me "snipe the ovies with your corsair" because that is not reliable enough This kind of play must be 2 hath, so if you cannot scout his 3rd base with initial probe / zealot, you need to build 1-2 canons in your mineral line vs fast muta / lurker drops. Also, going cors reaver is a great choice vs any 2 hath build, as you deny mutas / ovies with corsair and get fast ob / reaver to defend lurker or mass hydra. Also use your initial 1-2 zealots and try to scout his natural to see the 2nd gas. If no 2nd gas and 2 base play only, that is hydra. If there is 2nd gas, that is muta / lurker. | ||
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TT1
Canada9173 Posts
On August 14 2019 16:40 kogeT wrote: This kind of play must be 2 hath, so if you cannot scout his 3rd base with initial probe / zealot, you need to build 1-2 canons in your mineral line vs fast muta / lurker drops. Also, going cors reaver is a great choice vs any 2 hath build, as you deny mutas / ovies with corsair and get fast ob / reaver to defend lurker or mass hydra. Also use your initial 1-2 zealots and try to scout his natural to see the 2nd gas. If no 2nd gas and 2 base play only, that is hydra. If there is 2nd gas, that is muta / lurker. bingo @fefil eventually you will need to understand/figure out these concepts on your own if you're gonna want to improve more efficiently Understanding these responses/concepts (etc.) and adding them to your repertoire is what creates game sense.. and it's part of the fun of playing BW. It's actually pretty hard to remember everything unless you practice and figure out solutions on your own, there's endless amount of scenarios like these. But yea, the answer is pretty simple if you think about it more critically.. not really a case of "2 base lurker drop rush because this is bullshit" being an OP build...... :DD | ||
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prosatan
Romania4211 Posts
When i try to acces bw it says "The Battle.net launcher failed to launch" !!!! How can i fix it  ? | ||
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prosatan
Romania4211 Posts
just run as administrator battle.net launcer   | ||
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EndingLife
United States1310 Posts
On August 14 2019 06:35 fefil wrote: How tf do you beat 2 base lurker drop rush because this is bullshit. pvz. there's no way to know if he's doing a regular hydra bust or if he's going lurker drops at least until your corsair pops out then maybe you can scout the lair. but still what the hell? you're nowhere near obs yet and he just dropped 2 lurkers in each mineral line. pretty fuckin tilted right now just lost to this nub. whatever advice anyone gives me, first of all, thank you. but please do not tell me "snipe the ovies with your corsair" because that is not reliable enough You must have ran into Julia on ladder | ||
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Counc1l
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krocan.cz
47 Posts
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Counc1l
23 Posts
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kogeT
Poland1493 Posts
On August 14 2019 21:24 prosatan wrote: Hey guys please help ! When i try to acces bw it says "The Battle.net launcher failed to launch" !!!! How can i fix it ?Seems to be a common issue! I have the same, any my workaround is to run "Battle Net" application directly and SC from there. | ||
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9heart
Canada497 Posts
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XenOsky
Chile1685 Posts
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Alpha-NP-
United States1164 Posts
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fefil
92 Posts
On August 21 2019 14:20 9heart wrote: what determines if a unit is within range of a weapon? is it based on the pixels of the sprite or on collision boxes? or on unit sizes as described here? List of Unit and Building Sizesthanks It is based on the pixels of the sprite to the sprite of what its targeting. This is especially noticeable when you see protosses positioning dragoons to hit a bunker. | ||
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yenta
Poland1032 Posts
On August 22 2019 23:44 Alpha-NP- wrote: What’s the mindset goal of 9pool 1 base cheeze ZvP? I saw Zelot play it against Bisu and I was impressed. Do they ever try Lurkers? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1arHzCajkSQ Was that really Bisu? He scouted what looks like 9pool speed + lair and didn't block the holes in his wall. The build also looked greedy vs an aggressive build. | ||
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fefil
92 Posts
At 8:00, how does bisu know to start making cannons? He had no scouting and if Z just kept droning up he woulda lost the game right there, so not sure what his thought process was. Granted he saw like 8 lings but that doesnt really mean shit in terms of making like 7 blind cannons | ||
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