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Jealous
10333 Posts
On February 25 2019 22:29 ggsimida wrote: wasn't there a recent foreign game where that happened yeah dewalt vs dandy Looking for a progame if possible! I was already aware of this one  Thanks though! | ||
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Alpha-NP-
United States1242 Posts
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vOdToasT
Sweden2870 Posts
On March 01 2019 14:36 Alpha-NP- wrote: In ZvP is there a timing or a Protoss unit composition that Overlord drops are good against? During the time of the six dragons, many Protoss players played aggressively from two bases with seven, eight, or nine gateways. They often took a third base as they attacked. Against this kind of two base aggression, it can be very effective to drop when the Protoss moves out. You either get a good counter attack that can easily snipe a nexus, or, you prevent him from being aggressive, which is his plan, having invested so much in an army, and taken such a late third base. I don't have sources on me right now but I've seen Bisu lose to this versus Shine, Hero, and others. | ||
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XenOsky
Chile2356 Posts
During the time of the six dragons, many Protoss players played aggressively from two bases with seven, eight, or nine gateways. Isbthere a particular game that comes to mind? I would like to watch 8 9 gate toss played during that era. | ||
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Anc13nt
1557 Posts
On March 01 2019 14:36 Alpha-NP- wrote: In ZvP is there a timing or a Protoss unit composition that Overlord drops are good against? If out of position. Overlord drops are good against sair/reaver but if you are unlucky and get caught by sairs, that can be disastrous. I would assume Overlord drops are pretty good against mass goon comp since goons are really bad while fighting up ramps and because they often will drop lings/lurkers with dark swarm which are really strong against dragoons. | ||
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Anc13nt
1557 Posts
Edit: Also, I'd like to ask for tips on how to use 2 base goon reaver comp in PvZ, I notice it's a lot more meta nowadays (at least on Whiteout). | ||
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Dazed.
Canada3301 Posts
On March 03 2019 14:22 Anc13nt wrote: theres 4 hatch before gas, playing 5-6 super campy, opening 5 but with a really quick 2nd gas and switching into a muta-scourge timing, or just opening up 3 hatch and going mutalisk-- tricky but viable. 3 hatch den into a fake bust, macro off it and tech lurker. Are there any cool midgame ZvP builds besides the usual 5-6 hatch hydra style? Edit: Also, I'd like to ask for tips on how to use 2 base goon reaver comp in PvZ, I notice it's a lot more meta nowadays (at least on Whiteout). Most styles and compositions are viable in zvp its more a question of adaption to what one another is doing. I.e you could play lurker ling and tech hive quickly one game, that would be appropriate, and in another constantly going for lurker hydra drop. edit: if toss skips corsair 3 hatch lurker is viable for instance. | ||
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Rodya
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kogeT
Poland2042 Posts
On March 04 2019 09:40 Rodya wrote: Where are the optimal spots to place turrets in tvp on medusa for defending an early reaver drop? How many turrets do you build? The 10 position in particular is what I'm wondering about. The more you have to cover the closer to your base you build the turrets. So in medusa example I would stick to 3-4 turrets max and rely on units to defend against drop. Exampel could be: 1 turret on high ground, 1 around CC minerals, 1 around factory and 1 in nat. Or even better, I would go for fast goliath or wraith because it really makes little sense to build 5-6 turrets to cover everything. 5-6 turrets on the other hand makes sense if you went for very fast 3 base that is possible on medusa.. then you rely on single factory tanks and make a turret ring with your extra minerals. So it all depends on yours and opponents strategy. | ||
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Dazed.
Canada3301 Posts
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ProMeTheus112
France2027 Posts
i have played maybe over 90% of my pvz doing one base openings, but its so hard to give an answer. On this type of map I would experiment with more 2 gates openings and reaver openings. Maybe also goon based stuff but i'm still not sure how well that works or doesn't :D | ||
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Dazed.
Canada3301 Posts
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8871 Posts
you only get to snipe tanks if terran pretty much lets you though | ||
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ProMeTheus112
France2027 Posts
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Dazed.
Canada3301 Posts
On March 08 2019 03:55 ProMeTheus112 wrote: Alright, thanks. Actively trying to snipe a tank or such, I would say a shuttle reaver type of thing. It's very down to micro that a good terran may prevent you from getting to snipe a tank and instead take something from you, since these have long range and instant pretty big attack. If I want to be agressive to T I like to do forward gate 1-2 zealot and play macro from there. I used to do more 2 gates goon stuff which is also interesting but it's good to shake it up because 2 gates goons can be countered by siege expo and some other things. On that forward gate issue, where is the line between all-insh and just a simple forward gate? is a forward 9 'cheese' but a forward ten isnt? etc | ||
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ProMeTheus112
France2027 Posts
ofc you can also use that forward gate as wall at nat next | ||
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Anc13nt
1557 Posts
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Jealous
10333 Posts
On March 09 2019 11:59 Anc13nt wrote: Never really thought about this (it's a bit of an odd question tbh) until now but how should one adjust their game play when latency/tr is bad? I am zerg but I play all 3 races so any help is appreciated. Go Lurker instead of Mutalisk. | ||
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Luddite
United States2315 Posts
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GunSlinger
614 Posts
On March 11 2019 04:05 Luddite wrote: If it's a PvZ game where the P is building up off 2 bases for a midgame push and they've been saving HT for a while, do they typically get the energy upgrade and have enough energy to cast 3 psi storms from each HT? Or does it just depend on the game? Of course, the definite answer is always "it depends on the game". But really, if you are limited to only 2 gas then Khaydarin amulet is relatively expensive at 150 gas. Plus it takes a while to complete. Sometimes that 150 gas is better used on building an HT if it is a really fast-paced, scrappy game. You also have to consider that Zerg units generally have a fairly easy time sniping HTs as they move across the map. So if you are relying on these storms to do massive damage (as you must since you have invested so much gas); your mid-game push could simply fall apart due to a group of Hydras/Lings/Mutas sniping the HTs before they are able to reach their destination and cast their spells. As a rule, I would suggest researching Khaydarin after you secure a third gas. Once you become comfortable with that, explore researching it on 2 gas to see if it is worth it for you. | ||
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