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Cryoc
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany909 Posts
February 09 2019 13:08 GMT
#8301
Just go 2 base arbiters with a late 3rd. I think a 7 fac is more of a response to a 2 base arbiter build when there is no 3rd gas base for T (and 2 base arbiter is often a response to a 5 fac). This was played in ASL:

http://www.twitch.tv/cryoc
rockslave
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Brazil318 Posts
February 13 2019 20:37 GMT
#8302
In ZvP, what's the correct timing for the 2nd and 3rd gas when going standard (3 hatch spire 5 hatch hydra)? Also, when do you throw the second evo?
What qxc said.
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-14 07:11:50
February 13 2019 22:48 GMT
#8303
I think 2nd gas comes after hydra den (around 35 supply normally or around 6:15). It's ok to get it a bit later though I think, since I've seen a lot of Korean fpvods where zerg gets it at around high 30 to low 40 supply between 6:30-7:00, especially if they took another natural as a third. Idk about third gas but usually close to 60 supply (around 8:30) is a good time. Idk about second evo but usually a bit before +1 missile attack is done so that you can get +2 missile and +1 carapace.

Edit: Close to 60 supply is more like 8:00 not 8:30, sorry. That said, if you took the third at a natural, then third gas at 8:30 or even 9:00 is ok, since you probably need more minerals to power drones and make a lot of sunkens. Also, in general, it's not super important in ZvP to hit good gas timings as it is in ZvT. I've seen many games where they get pretty late natural and third gas even when playing 3 base mass hydra style so taking gas late is better than taking gas too early.
rockslave
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Brazil318 Posts
February 14 2019 18:41 GMT
#8304
Thank you!
What qxc said.
Alpha-NP-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1242 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-14 20:36:21
February 14 2019 20:36 GMT
#8305
Which side’s races are favored at a newb level? Like D rank.
ZvP
ZvT
TvP

I always thought it was an interesting subject.
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
February 14 2019 21:07 GMT
#8306
it's P>T, P>Z, T>Z

you used to be able to look it up on starlog, you can also look up CPL stats though there's not a big sample size (Wiki)Coach pupil league S3/Statistics
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
February 14 2019 21:18 GMT
#8307
On February 15 2019 06:07 Dead9 wrote:
it's P>T, P>Z, T>Z

you used to be able to look it up on starlog, you can also look up CPL stats though there's not a big sample size https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Coach_pupil_league_S3/Statistics


I miss starlog
Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1529 Posts
February 16 2019 21:58 GMT
#8308
How can I change or add stuff to the tlpd? Or who can?
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10231 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-16 22:06:58
February 16 2019 22:06 GMT
#8309
On February 17 2019 06:58 Freakling wrote:
How can I change or add stuff to the tlpd? Or who can?

You can't. Only staff can, and even within staff I think only a couple people work on it at all. Reach out to a staff member on Discord? Or perhaps try the Liquipedia Discord and see if there are some people who can help you there?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-17 21:30:03
February 17 2019 21:28 GMT
#8310
https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/website-feedback/57090-tlpd-feedback-thread?page=130

you can use this thread if you want to alert someone that works on tlpd, but as you can see, just because you gave a vod and a game link doesnt mean it will necessarily be done in a timely manner. Apparently the codes a bitch to use and i think only a couple people edit it.

edit: cough i wish someone would add all those games i linked to the TLPD cough
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
February 20 2019 03:51 GMT
#8311
Does anyone have opinion on the balance/meta of the current ladder map pool? I would be interested in hearing which builds/strategies work best on these maps basically.
GunSlinger
Profile Joined June 2006
614 Posts
February 20 2019 06:04 GMT
#8312
On February 20 2019 12:51 Anc13nt wrote:
Does anyone have opinion on the balance/meta of the current ladder map pool? I would be interested in hearing which builds/strategies work best on these maps basically.


Name a match-up or something? The questions are supposed to be simple and there are 7 maps in question.
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
February 20 2019 15:34 GMT
#8313
On February 20 2019 15:04 GunSlinger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2019 12:51 Anc13nt wrote:
Does anyone have opinion on the balance/meta of the current ladder map pool? I would be interested in hearing which builds/strategies work best on these maps basically.


Name a match-up or something? The questions are supposed to be simple and there are 7 maps in question.


Mainly was curious about ZvP but I'm also interested in hearing about any other matchup if that is possible too.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10231 Posts
February 20 2019 20:01 GMT
#8314
On February 21 2019 00:34 Anc13nt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2019 15:04 GunSlinger wrote:
On February 20 2019 12:51 Anc13nt wrote:
Does anyone have opinion on the balance/meta of the current ladder map pool? I would be interested in hearing which builds/strategies work best on these maps basically.


Name a match-up or something? The questions are supposed to be simple and there are 7 maps in question.


Mainly was curious about ZvP but I'm also interested in hearing about any other matchup if that is possible too.

Overwatch: I'd veto this.

Cross Game: I'd veto this.

Medusa: Backdoor Lurkers is really annoying on this map. If you have map control + Lurkers, bust the Temples and go up their high ground.

Colo: 9 Pool Sunken rush their wall. Most lower level Protoss don't know how to deal, and even if they do, their micro has to be on point to both kill the Sunken and not let Zerglings in

FS/CB/GZ: Basically standard maps.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-23 01:42:49
February 23 2019 01:42 GMT
#8315
I think the ASL should do to follow format single elimination from round of 16 (BO5 instead of BO1). They can play in 8 days or 4 days (every day 2 BO5s matchup).

Example:
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https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
Berby
Profile Joined February 2019
15 Posts
February 24 2019 02:26 GMT
#8316
is SK terran still a viable strategy? And if so are there any recent vods of it. I love that style and would like to see it executed in the modern age.
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2288 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-24 04:51:08
February 24 2019 04:50 GMT
#8317
On February 24 2019 11:26 Berby wrote:
is SK terran still a viable strategy? And if so are there any recent vods of it. I love that style and would like to see it executed in the modern age.


Light vs Jaedong @ Circuit breakers, ASL6


it is still viable, in fact very viable. Terrans nowadays are adding a few BCs to the m&m/vessel composition late game tho.
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10231 Posts
February 24 2019 20:11 GMT
#8318
Does anyone have off the top of their head a VOD of a Protoss going +1 air in order to fake getting Range before Citadel/DT?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
February 25 2019 13:29 GMT
#8319
wasn't there a recent foreign game where that happened
yeah dewalt vs dandy
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2288 Posts
February 26 2019 05:13 GMT
#8320
you guys think that people would be interested in watching a twitch streamers starcraft league?
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
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