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thezanursic
5500 Posts
3 hatch before pool vs 3 hatch before pool, now how often do you see that? Seriously thiugh if you scout your opponent first in ZvZ and you are both doing 12 hatch, is 3 hatch before pool legit or was that phased out over time because it couldn't transition well? | ||
Harem
United States11393 Posts
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thezanursic
5500 Posts
On January 22 2014 16:54 Harem wrote: You can see the drone chicken a lot when playing on Python and you both spawn close by air. But how far does it go? Ever seen anything more extreme than 3 hatches? Like 4 hatch. Was anybody that insane, yet? | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On January 22 2014 13:47 Nightsz wrote: As protoss, what control groups do you guys use to control your armies in BW, and if you guys play SB, what has changed? I don't play protoss as much, mostly terran but the control group layout isn't that different: 1- zealots (marines) 2- zealots/dragoons (marines) 3- dragoons/other units (medics) 4- hts (tanks) 5- arbiters (science vessels) In general, zealots first in control groups then dragoons etc... The bigger the army gets, the more control groups you need and I usually just shift them down. sorry, haven't played starbow. Only thing I know is that you still have some SCII units in SB but I'm not sure which ones they decided to leave in it. | ||
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nekotrap
130 Posts
On January 22 2014 17:21 thezanursic wrote: But how far does it go? Ever seen anything more extreme than 3 hatches? Like 4 hatch. Was anybody that insane, yet? I think I've played a game on python where we both went 5 hatches before pool then sunken rushed eachother | ||
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On January 22 2014 23:49 nekotrap wrote: I think I've played a game on python where we both went 5 hatches before pool then sunken rushed eachother rofl that's insane. How did you guys manage 5 hatchs before pool? This was on iccup or with friends? | ||
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nekotrap
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ninazerg
United States7291 Posts
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Kau
Canada3502 Posts
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skzlime
Hungary462 Posts
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puppykiller
United States3137 Posts
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Chef
10810 Posts
On January 23 2014 06:56 ninazerg wrote: What if there is a game where one player expands, so the other player expands as a counter, and the first player expands again, and this just keeps happening until the whole map is taken before units are made? I watched a replay with tsunami when he did something like that. 6 vs 9 on LT. Used to be very standard knowledge in ZvZ that you always wanna build your spawning pool just a little after your opponent. If both players think this it has a predictable result. You've got to have overlords spotting for it though, or to be scouting with a drone or else you can get caught off guard. It's a situation where you were both intending to go 12h or 12p and you both spawned in locations that can be scouted by overlord extremely quickly. It's not actually that big a deal tho cause you just build a drone or two after your spawning pool finishes while the person who delayed their pool feels pressured to get lings asap. You might as well just do the build the way you practiced, which is why this situation never really happened in pro games. I think the more interesting play in this situation is to take your gas first and see how your opponent reacts. | ||
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Harem
United States11393 Posts
On January 23 2014 09:10 Chef wrote: I watched a replay with tsunami when he did something like that. 6 vs 9 on LT. Used to be very standard knowledge in ZvZ that you always wanna build your spawning pool just a little after your opponent. If both players think this it has a predictable result. You've got to have overlords spotting for it though, or to be scouting with a drone or else you can get caught off guard. It's a situation where you were both intending to go 12h or 12p and you both spawned in locations that can be scouted by overlord extremely quickly. It's not actually that big a deal tho cause you just build a drone or two after your spawning pool finishes while the person who delayed their pool feels pressured to get lings asap. You might as well just do the build the way you practiced, which is why this situation never really happened in pro games. I think the more interesting play in this situation is to take your gas first and see how your opponent reacts. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/games/75508_Jaedong_vs_Modesty There was this game where JD scouted with first ovie and saw 12pool so he went 12hatch gas pool. (Modesty ovie went wrong way.) Also to thezanursic, another creative way of playing this situation out is to just get an early evo chamber for +1. | ||
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puppykiller
United States3137 Posts
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
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Jealous
10353 Posts
On January 23 2014 18:30 puppykiller wrote: Are there any things that you can do to avoid getting the glitch goon bug? I don't see pro's get it as often as I do. Don't a-click units about to leave goon range. | ||
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puppykiller
United States3137 Posts
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8913 Posts
depends on how fast you scout it | ||
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thezanursic
5500 Posts
Did only SKT, Khan take it seriously? Also why is there so little information on IEF available, did TL just not care about it at the time? | ||
intrigue
Washington, D.C9935 Posts
On January 23 2014 18:30 puppykiller wrote: Are there any things that you can do to avoid getting the glitch goon bug? I don't see pro's get it as often as I do. hm, in general you just want to issue minimal commands to your goons. be efficient and don't panic if they do glitch. tap s and continue on | ||
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