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On June 01 2010 10:20 Kyuukyuu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2010 07:10 durecell wrote:
If new diamond level players will have trouble is it even worth it if you're just bronze/silver? Yes. The average, mediocre BW player on iCCup (D-ranked) will be at least platinum in SC2 if they dedicate any relatively significant amount of time to it.
I was D+/C- on BW and Random Diamond in SC2, and I still mass Thors whenever I get Terran lol.
The macro of your average non-BW player just cannot keep up.
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I'm someone who has experienced the world of Starcraft primarily through SC2. I think this thread is awesome. When I was younger I played the SC1 and BW campaigns and enjoyed the story but, never got into the multiplayer.
It's nice to see a thread like this to help out all bad-at-rts-wow-converts like me. Also, any post with an excuse to throw in that Idra CC cancel is automatically double awesome.
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On June 01 2010 12:29 heroyi wrote:
lol i like everyone's post here about how a nooby level at sc bw is a "platinum" level in sc2. makes me feel like i am one of the elites. you have your bnet users...then you have your "iccup" users. and the iccup elites shit out a shit that shits in the bnet elite's mouth. cause literally a bnet user with 250-50 record will lose to a D level
Wrong, depends who you play and how competitive you are, my very first iccup season from playing Bnet USEast 3v3 bgh was B-, within 3 seasons I reached B+. I find that the people on the bnet servers tend to have either better micro / better macro or better early game multitasking than iccupers(this is one or the other, the avg skill on bnet servers is around c- clearly) because they have been around longer, or their play style is different. Being it "cheese" or w/e the play on bnet is much more unorthodox and essential to improving your skill.
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I am jerking it hard to that video..
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I'm D- on iccup and gold on starcraft 2 mainly because i fumble whenever i get harassed ;_;
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fuck yeah bw
I love this game more than anything even after the sequel
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On June 01 2010 13:03 dRaW wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2010 12:29 heroyi wrote:
lol i like everyone's post here about how a nooby level at sc bw is a "platinum" level in sc2. makes me feel like i am one of the elites. you have your bnet users...then you have your "iccup" users. and the iccup elites shit out a shit that shits in the bnet elite's mouth. cause literally a bnet user with 250-50 record will lose to a D level Wrong, depends who you play and how competitive you are, my very first iccup season from playing Bnet USEast 3v3 bgh was B-, within 3 seasons I reached B+. I find that the people on the bnet servers tend to have either better micro / better macro or better early game multitasking than iccupers(this is one or the other, the avg skill on bnet servers is around c- clearly) because they have been around longer, or their play style is different. Being it "cheese" or w/e the play on bnet is much more unorthodox and essential to improving your skill.
There is just no way this isn't a troll
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On June 01 2010 05:06 majesty.k)seRapH wrote:i'm not saying bw is just as easy/more easy, i'm saying its completely, 100% possible to backtrack and play bw competitively moving in from sc2. + Show Spoiler +also, your caps lock'd sentence might need a bit of tweaking ;D
I have to diasgree...
SC2 is just a RTS...People coming form Bw/wc3 and also aoe is able to play at least at a medium level from the beginning.
Why?
Because you have clear in your head bascis of economy, micromanagement, harass,..
But it is absolutely impossible to play competitive at Bw in 2 motnhs. They will barely hit C if they are really talented. Nothing more.
However I will don't reinstall BW on my computer for the month without the beta..i know myself and i don't want to get addicted another time 
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Thanks for writing up this guide, and thanks for pony express to bringing this guide to my attention.
I'll think about giving it a shot (i had iccup installed) but i don't think i will have the balls to do so. I will probably be playing altitude or some moba game during sc2 downtime 
But who knows...
Oh and for the record im low diamond player, but i just don't see myself in not failing miserably in bw. The idea of sending each worker to mine with addition to macroing without multiple building selection would just put my brain into meltdown. I do like challenges though...
Well who knows, we will see...
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United Arab Emirates5091 Posts
lol this is funny.
10/10 for effort though, nice job for the sc2 kids.
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The OP definitely needs to warn SC2 players of SC1 spellcasting. Nothing's more frustating for a newby than seeing those 10 vessels all irradiateing the shit out of a single ultralisk.
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On June 01 2010 13:03 dRaW wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2010 12:29 heroyi wrote:
lol i like everyone's post here about how a nooby level at sc bw is a "platinum" level in sc2. makes me feel like i am one of the elites. you have your bnet users...then you have your "iccup" users. and the iccup elites shit out a shit that shits in the bnet elite's mouth. cause literally a bnet user with 250-50 record will lose to a D level Wrong, depends who you play and how competitive you are, my very first iccup season from playing Bnet USEast 3v3 bgh was B-, within 3 seasons I reached B+. I find that the people on the bnet servers tend to have either better micro / better macro or better early game multitasking than iccupers(this is one or the other, the avg skill on bnet servers is around c- clearly) because they have been around longer, or their play style is different. Being it "cheese" or w/e the play on bnet is much more unorthodox and essential to improving your skill.
This is bullshit. Or, you played like iccup season 2 when 200 people played. A D player on iccup will win over 50% of bnet games easy. C- player will win 90%. C/C+ will win 100% of games against true bnet players, they would only lose to another iccuper on bnet or the VERY rare skilled bnet player.
Btw this thread makes me miss broodwar. I played iccup for about 2-3 years and managed to go from D- to C+/B- and made a fair amount of "friends" in the process.
Now that I think about it the SC2 environment is nothing like the iccup/bnet environment, and broodwar was just such a fun game. Not saying SC2 is bad, and I'll definitely stick with it, but broodwar was definitely better. Something about it made it so fun.
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H'okay, well I'm officially afraid to load up the single player campaign again through fear that the AI will laugh at me.
Thanks.
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On June 01 2010 12:51 FiveAlarm wrote:
I'm someone who has experienced the world of Starcraft primarily through SC2. I think this thread is awesome. When I was younger I played the SC1 and BW campaigns and enjoyed the story but, never got into the multiplayer.
It's nice to see a thread like this to help out all bad-at-rts-wow-converts like me. Also, any post with an excuse to throw in that Idra CC cancel is automatically double awesome.
Except I can just imagine poor IdrA stumbling upon this thread, seeing the video and clutching himself in pain like he has been stabbed by a ringwraith 
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lol, after 2 months (march -> may) of hardcore iccup (max rank D+ ftw), i tried sc2.
it was so easy, besides the lack of BO.
and whoever said you won't fail miserably at bw, trust me, you will.
microing/macroing individually isn't a bitch. multitasking both is a bitch.
+ you don't have the leisure of hotkeying 8 gateways and pressing z = multitasking is harder.
all my opinion =P
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On June 03 2010 04:39 _Air_ wrote:
This is bullshit. Or, you played like iccup season 2 when 200 people played. A D player on iccup will win over 50% of bnet games easy. C- player will win 90%. C/C+ will win 100% of games against true bnet players, they would only lose to another iccuper on bnet or the VERY rare skilled bnet player.
Or a hacker, which is fairly common on B.net.
Granted, not all hackers are going to be good enough to beat a C-level player, even with hacks.
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On June 03 2010 14:36 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2010 04:39 _Air_ wrote:
This is bullshit. Or, you played like iccup season 2 when 200 people played. A D player on iccup will win over 50% of bnet games easy. C- player will win 90%. C/C+ will win 100% of games against true bnet players, they would only lose to another iccuper on bnet or the VERY rare skilled bnet player.
Or a hacker, which is fairly common on B.net. Granted, not all hackers are going to be good enough to beat a C-level player, even with hacks.
we should have a team match, hackers vs C/B level players!
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i would love to get in on that game- can i join the players tho lol
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This is a nice idea but I think it will be useless. In my opinion, Sc/bw will go play the game wc3 player will go back to warcraft3 and C&C play will go back to C&C
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On June 04 2010 02:13 StoLiVe wrote:
This is a nice idea but I think it will be useless. In my opinion, Sc/bw will go play the game wc3 player will go back to warcraft3 and C&C play will go back to C&C
This is true. SC:BW would be very very hard to pick up now, considering the mechanics of the game itself are significantly harder, but even more important is that the overall level of players is very high.
Also, Im willing to bet that C/C+ players would roll a (map) hacker on broodwar. A standard push would win, the player would see it coming and not be able to macro enough to stop it. Although mineral hacks are another story...
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