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3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-10 22:15:43
April 10 2010 22:15 GMT
#401
On April 10 2010 12:55 randomKo_Orean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2010 07:42 3FFA wrote:
On April 10 2010 07:38 MassAirUnits wrote:
Oh, I don't mean that you can only choose one of those four choices to be part of the composition, just that tanks and valks should be the main portion of the army. But any other units I didn't mention shouldn't be used if possible (Marines I'll probably have to make an exception for otherwise you'd be pretty screwed early on).

Basically I'm curious about how self sufficient tanks and valks can be as main combat units, but I'm adding some exceptions for detection and repairs.

Which reminds me, I'm adding Dropships to the list of valid support units.

good boy! Thanks for allowing marines and drops I was about to point that out =D.

What the fuck are you talking about? O_O?!!?!?!

His idea and its ability to actually have a chance at working.

edit: O thank god I don't have to look at pg 20 anymore! =D
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
[XD]Juicebox
Profile Joined April 2010
United States10 Posts
April 11 2010 21:03 GMT
#402
TvZ
Tech straight to Starport, then expand and harass Overlords with Wraiths. Then switch to MnM. I think I've seen Boxer do it before, but then again, I don't know anything.
Yay!!!
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
April 11 2010 23:17 GMT
#403
A couple of ideas:

PvZ or PvT: Win using an army of two races.

PvZ: Use any build order that you want (e.g. sair/reaver, Bisu build) as long as it has Corsairs, but replace all the Corsairs with Scouts.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
tempo
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2 Posts
April 11 2010 23:36 GMT
#404
Oh please, please try this in PvP:
Reavers + HT to hallucinate your Reavers + a few DAs to feedback enemy`s HTs
Maybe the capacity upgrade for reavers is a good idea, so the hallucinated reavers shoot more than 5 times.
I always wanted to see this strat performed, but I`m mostly just watching replays. Please give it a try. Thanks.
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-12 00:06:43
April 12 2010 00:06 GMT
#405
Try overpool or 9 pool into gas steal(or the other way around) to put enough pressure so that your opponent doesn't kill your extractor right away, and then get a HUGE muta timing attack. Might need to build some sunkens if you lose your lings though, lol.
darkness overpowering
3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
April 12 2010 00:24 GMT
#406
On April 12 2010 08:36 tempo wrote:
Oh please, please try this in PvP:
Reavers + HT to hallucinate your Reavers + a few DAs to feedback enemy`s HTs
Maybe the capacity upgrade for reavers is a good idea, so the hallucinated reavers shoot more than 5 times.
I always wanted to see this strat performed, but I`m mostly just watching replays. Please give it a try. Thanks.

Reavers hallucinated can't make scarabs! This means hallucinated reavers will NOT be targeted first and will NOT attack!
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
tempo
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2 Posts
April 12 2010 10:35 GMT
#407
On April 12 2010 09:24 3FFA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 08:36 tempo wrote:
Oh please, please try this in PvP:
Reavers + HT to hallucinate your Reavers + a few DAs to feedback enemy`s HTs
Maybe the capacity upgrade for reavers is a good idea, so the hallucinated reavers shoot more than 5 times.
I always wanted to see this strat performed, but I`m mostly just watching replays. Please give it a try. Thanks.

Reavers hallucinated can't make scarabs! This means hallucinated reavers will NOT be targeted first and will NOT attack!



That`s why I said, that the capacity upgrade may be a good idea. They can`t build scarabs, but they will shoot the scarabs the original reaver had, when the hallucinations were made. Try it out.
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1972 Posts
April 12 2010 11:46 GMT
#408
On April 12 2010 06:03 [XD]Juicebox wrote:
TvZ
Tech straight to Starport, then expand and harass Overlords with Wraiths. Then switch to MnM. I think I've seen Boxer do it before, but then again, I don't know anything.


2 port wraith into SK Terran? I saw Flash do that against Jaedong, I think.
3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
April 12 2010 19:30 GMT
#409
On April 12 2010 19:35 tempo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 09:24 3FFA wrote:
On April 12 2010 08:36 tempo wrote:
Oh please, please try this in PvP:
Reavers + HT to hallucinate your Reavers + a few DAs to feedback enemy`s HTs
Maybe the capacity upgrade for reavers is a good idea, so the hallucinated reavers shoot more than 5 times.
I always wanted to see this strat performed, but I`m mostly just watching replays. Please give it a try. Thanks.

Reavers hallucinated can't make scarabs! This means hallucinated reavers will NOT be targeted first and will NOT attack!



That`s why I said, that the capacity upgrade may be a good idea. They can`t build scarabs, but they will shoot the scarabs the original reaver had, when the hallucinations were made. Try it out.

ok I will. I never tried hallucinating reavers because I thought this didn't work since it doesn't work with carriers. I'll try it after I do my hw today.
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
zoOv
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia269 Posts
April 16 2010 15:17 GMT
#410
Hahaha Project 21 was AWESOME. I laughed throughout the whole game it's a brilliant strategy. Sorry for being noob because I only started two weeks ago, but is mining the back mineral in HBR or Destination legal in iCCup and those pro korean tourneys? If not how come they don't do it more to surprise their opponent?
Terror Australis :: [TA] :: Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard
Neobick
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Sweden208 Posts
April 16 2010 16:03 GMT
#411
On April 17 2010 00:17 zoov wrote:
Hahaha Project 21 was AWESOME. I laughed throughout the whole game it's a brilliant strategy. Sorry for being noob because I only started two weeks ago, but is mining the back mineral in HBR or Destination legal in iCCup and those pro korean tourneys? If not how come they don't do it more to surprise their opponent?



People are aware of this usually so they place a supply depot, pylon or something near it. Its easier on lower levels cause people tend to forget about it more often then.
Use the force.
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
April 16 2010 19:53 GMT
#412
On April 17 2010 00:17 zoov wrote:
Hahaha Project 21 was AWESOME. I laughed throughout the whole game it's a brilliant strategy. Sorry for being noob because I only started two weeks ago, but is mining the back mineral in HBR or Destination legal in iCCup and those pro korean tourneys? If not how come they don't do it more to surprise their opponent?




Bisu scouts Yellow doing it, places cannons there. Little does he suspect...
wat
silentguy
Profile Joined April 2010
99 Posts
April 17 2010 02:52 GMT
#413
rush them.... two words. Yeah. If anybody has any strategies for me on Protoss PM me k? I can't make my own thread cuz I'm a fresh new member.
madnessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1581 Posts
April 17 2010 03:29 GMT
#414
On April 17 2010 04:53 Curu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2010 00:17 zoov wrote:
Hahaha Project 21 was AWESOME. I laughed throughout the whole game it's a brilliant strategy. Sorry for being noob because I only started two weeks ago, but is mining the back mineral in HBR or Destination legal in iCCup and those pro korean tourneys? If not how come they don't do it more to surprise their opponent?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzDGNBKplVw

Bisu scouts Yellow doing it, places cannons there. Little does he suspect...


I'm a bisu fan boy but yellow is too amazing in that game. mining out the back to hydra to lurker drops to muta tech switch... SO SEXY!
neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
April 17 2010 04:10 GMT
#415
Is this thread still being followed?

I have an idea TvZ. Forward barracks at around your natural choke, standard timing. Act as if you're going for a 1 rax FE build, but skip your second depot and just go for the cc a tad faster. Once your command centre is building, make gas at your main and switch into mech.

The trick to this build is to intentionally supply block yourself. So when you're at 18/18 with an scv and a marine building, you make sure there are 2 marines in the unit queue so that the barracks continues to flash even after you're supply blocked. Make sure the Zerg doesn't see the mech inside the main, but the flashing barracks will probably make him think you're going bio. Also, bunker if necessary.

Not sure how well this will work, but try it.
zoOv
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia269 Posts
April 17 2010 04:56 GMT
#416
On April 17 2010 04:53 Curu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2010 00:17 zoov wrote:
Hahaha Project 21 was AWESOME. I laughed throughout the whole game it's a brilliant strategy. Sorry for being noob because I only started two weeks ago, but is mining the back mineral in HBR or Destination legal in iCCup and those pro korean tourneys? If not how come they don't do it more to surprise their opponent?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzDGNBKplVw

Bisu scouts Yellow doing it, places cannons there. Little does he suspect...


Thanks, just watched it. Fantastic game =)

When I saw the scouting overlord in the main base and saw that it was undefended I was thinking elevator and YellOw does it!
Terror Australis :: [TA] :: Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard
3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
April 17 2010 17:48 GMT
#417
Are you still updating this random_Korean?
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
trackd00r
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Chile284 Posts
April 17 2010 22:37 GMT
#418
Are you still updating this random_Korean?

-_- OP hasn't been updating this since January. Look last edit.
''They put signs, but I can't read''
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
April 17 2010 23:19 GMT
#419
Random_Korean said he'd be doing less starcraft after hosting his SC2 beta tournament because it was something his mom wanted him to do when she was on her deathbed.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
KinkyZergling
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada15 Posts
April 17 2010 23:35 GMT
#420
can you do that one and then

SCHHHHHHHHHHRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEECCCCCCCCCCCCCCCHHHHH

it would really make my day. Vod it please.

you must use some combination of dweb and goons
I want to be a Zergling!
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