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SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
January 26 2010 09:34 GMT
#341
uhm, a build I used waay back, works on destination pretty good (only map where I used it)

PvZ:
- Get a sneaky third, preferably near the enemy base, but it shouldn't be the Zerg's 3rd or 4th and it should be away from the muta path.
- tech as usual, get sairs, storms, hold bridges -- make sure that you are contained by hydralisks and he is pumping hydras.
- mass gateways at third, around 4~5 will do.
- get +1 attack and speed.
- grab 10 or more zealots from your third (but still continue creating them), run through his base, destroy den, pool, spire, evo chamber in any way you want, the evo is optional.
- Break contain at your nat, push push push. This will be a bit hard since you had majority of your gatewats in your third, but his units are pulling back to clean you up, he'll be stupid to attack you.
- If you're lucky you can actually contain him, but if you were not, just flank his army and rape it.
- grab idle zealots at thrid to rape any expansion.


Well you've won after you raped his tech so anything really goes after. Just note that this build usually worked (at least for me) when the zerg goes muta then hydra, because I know that he won't be having any lurkers out soon and there's a chance that I can still have +2 attack before I raid his base. This build is shit if your third gets spotted (which happened to me) since I personally didn't get cannons to save up on minerals. It's a fun build, especially when the zerg gets complacent in his situation that he forgets to scout and just mass hydras that are rallied to your base.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
January 27 2010 02:48 GMT
#342
Someone tried the +1 attack mass lings ZvZ against me. I scouted it and recognised it straight away. Then he called me a noob, and an awful player when I built ~6 sunkens to counter it, and then raped him with mutas XD
lol.Froste
Profile Joined January 2010
United States112 Posts
January 27 2010 21:27 GMT
#343
this is a PvZ rofl build: the PvZ reverse sunken push
open with a bisu FE into DT + sairs
then get fast shuttle with speed and a dark archon + mind control
go steal a drone and make a hatchery, spawning pool and make however many drones fit in a shuttle

now go drop all your drones inside his base and start building sunkens everywhere!!!

the key is to harass him as much as possible in the early game with your DTs & sairs
maelstrom can also be utilized after the initial drone is jacked
gl and hf! i hope you try this xD
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4217 Posts
January 28 2010 00:14 GMT
#344
On a map like Medusa (easy 2 gas and 3 mineral formations), go for a Vulture/Valkyrie build against Zerg.

Get a control group of Valkyries, with ups, and then start adding in tanks, since a dozen Valkyries is more than enough to get the job done at that point. Keeping them alive against scourge will be difficult though.

Crazy amounts of micro needed (think of muta micro, except you need to macro like a motherfucker, plus plant mines all over the place). But, if you do it, I have a feeling it would be very powerful.
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MisteR
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Netherlands595 Posts
January 28 2010 00:50 GMT
#345
This is super special awesome. Somehow, I liked the scouts strategy the best, even though it's the worst one.
Nal_Ra/Much/Horang2/Flying fighting!~
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
February 03 2010 02:52 GMT
#346
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Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4217 Posts
February 03 2010 02:55 GMT
#347
Take your time man. No rush. If anyone doesn't understand, they clearly don't know shit.....
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hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-04 03:46:52
February 04 2010 03:46 GMT
#348
hilariously unviable, but you can probably humiliate some Ds with it PvZ. Rush mind control with dark archon and MC a drone, and allocate minerals to lairtech/spire. then, middish/later game snipe OL's with scourge and send in your DT's.

and good luck with your family emergency wish you and your family the best.
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
March 29 2010 16:15 GMT
#349
Proxy all production facilities(except Nexuses) as toss and just mass up and flank the enemy's army. Maybe even make it so that your opponent can't take more than 2 or 3 bases because of this.
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
March 29 2010 19:14 GMT
#350
Bio TvP (mass vessel and irradiate / emp templar)
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
Sky.Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
United States271 Posts
March 29 2010 19:30 GMT
#351
On January 28 2010 06:27 lol.Froste wrote:
this is a PvZ rofl build: the PvZ reverse sunken push
open with a bisu FE into DT + sairs
then get fast shuttle with speed and a dark archon + mind control
go steal a drone and make a hatchery, spawning pool and make however many drones fit in a shuttle

now go drop all your drones inside his base and start building sunkens everywhere!!!

the key is to harass him as much as possible in the early game with your DTs & sairs
maelstrom can also be utilized after the initial drone is jacked
gl and hf! i hope you try this xD


omg

next time i go on east, i am fuckin doin this to some noobs ROFLLLLL you sir are a GENIUS
iCCup account: 20_E.Reed play me :)
3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-29 20:13:12
March 29 2010 19:47 GMT
#352
On March 30 2010 04:30 Sky.Technique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2010 06:27 lol.Froste wrote:
this is a PvZ rofl build: the PvZ reverse sunken push
open with a bisu FE into DT + sairs
then get fast shuttle with speed and a dark archon + mind control
go steal a drone and make a hatchery, spawning pool and make however many drones fit in a shuttle

now go drop all your drones inside his base and start building sunkens everywhere!!!

the key is to harass him as much as possible in the early game with your DTs & sairs
maelstrom can also be utilized after the initial drone is jacked
gl and hf! i hope you try this xD


omg

next time i go on east, i am fuckin doin this to some noobs ROFLLLLL you sir are a GENIUS

then you'll run into me most likely and then you'll get pawned as I know the exact counter to this.

3 hatch muta ;D

edit: u ok random_kor_ean?(sorry if spelt wrong its my first time I tried spelling it from memory)
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
Sky.Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
United States271 Posts
March 29 2010 20:17 GMT
#353
whats ur east aka 3FFA. i use this acc on east
iCCup account: 20_E.Reed play me :)
Hiicantpk
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada72 Posts
March 29 2010 22:47 GMT
#354
PvP
I may be crazy, but proxy reavers.

Standard 2gate opening, stick a pylon near their nat/main with 2-3 robos on it, and reaver it up
Defence bound and Shit like that
3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
March 30 2010 01:00 GMT
#355
On March 30 2010 05:17 Sky.Technique wrote:
whats ur east aka 3FFA. i use this acc on east

Tribal Trouble. I got a bad record of like 2-8 or something but it is the account I try cheeses and only cheeses. Recently its the only one I've been using.
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
Sky.Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
United States271 Posts
March 30 2010 13:51 GMT
#356
oh. on east all i do is stomp some noobs on bgh with a friend of mine whose C+ (its so much fun :D)

or i just do the 1v1 play/obs ums maps, i win some, but most of them are vs like peeople with 150 apm or lower. im protoss usually and i got like 185 apm
iCCup account: 20_E.Reed play me :)
oskuboi
Profile Joined March 2010
Finland72 Posts
March 30 2010 14:31 GMT
#357
plz do that mind control worker thing. i was just coming here to say it but saw it on old comments:D u can also use other race to make workers 200/200 and still have army of 200 supply:D its maybe hard to get to make so many workers without game ending before it but give it a try=)
FezTheCaliph
Profile Joined February 2010
United States492 Posts
March 30 2010 15:32 GMT
#358
I doubt you'll see this as its 18 pages in or someone has already said it, but..

TvZ: Wraith to chase out ovies then nukes. thats right. nukes. possibly no comsat,but if you are teching up to ghost/wraiths an sv shouldnt be too hard to come by. Obvious problems would be timing as it takes awhile to get up, and if its scouted spores will go up. Maybe more of a mid-late game push. Wait till you have ghosts/cloak and a nuke before you start chasing ovies out. Sorry for giving you your worst matchup again.
It is better to be on hand with ten men then absent with ten thousand
3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
March 30 2010 19:50 GMT
#359
On March 30 2010 22:51 Sky.Technique wrote:
oh. on east all i do is stomp some noobs on bgh with a friend of mine whose C+ (its so much fun :D)

or i just do the 1v1 play/obs ums maps, i win some, but most of them are vs like peeople with 150 apm or lower. im protoss usually and i got like 185 apm

lol @ bgh comment u noob(jk).

As for the 1v1 play/obs I do that all the time to create hilarious games for people to watch or watch to noobs(or a noob and a C+ player) pawn/ humiliate each other(or themselves lol). I last observed a game where it was 3 ffa game and 1 player did 4scv rush with a CC lift on python. He kept saying: "WHY CAN'T I LAND?!? WHY CAN'T I LAND?!? YOU HACKERS! LAND CC LAND O GOD PLZ LAND!"

b.net is a great place to go to get a couple lols.
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
March 30 2010 20:30 GMT
#360
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