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HYPE: Idra vs Mondragon Bo5 22nd of June 21:00 CET - Page 13

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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27173 Posts
June 18 2009 02:50 GMT
#241
Actually contrary to popular belief, being bad manner to fucking Mondragon is not a capitol offense.
ModeratorGodfather
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
June 18 2009 03:37 GMT
#242
On June 18 2009 11:50 Manifesto7 wrote:
Actually contrary to popular belief, being bad manner to fucking Mondragon is not a capitol offense.

...in Russia.
Jaedong
MMC.Lazerflip
Profile Joined May 2009
United States24 Posts
June 18 2009 03:41 GMT
#243
On June 16 2009 23:01 Last.Midnight wrote:
IdrA don't even deserve to be casted. I won't watch these games, they don't deserve to be watched.

Yea...nothing interesting about seeing how much a top foreign player who moved to Korea and went pro has benefited from his training and seeing how he matches up against top foreigners now. That obviously doesn't deserve to be casted, no more IdrA coverage please.
mog87
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1586 Posts
June 18 2009 03:42 GMT
#244
I'll say this talent isn't really much if it hasn't harnessed and forged. A person who trains all fucking day even with average talent in this case, will likely stomp the more talented but less mechanically sound player in a straight up game.

And please naruto fans dont chime in with some rock lee analogy, weve seen/heard it already.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
June 18 2009 05:41 GMT
#245
On June 18 2009 11:04 stroggos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2009 18:49 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On June 17 2009 18:47 paper wrote:
On June 17 2009 18:44 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On June 17 2009 12:11 stafu wrote:
lol @ IdrA editing out the "fucking" from his post, still not learning though. Honestly, when you are given the opportunity to do what Idra is doing, coming out of the pockets of other people, in a sense representing the foreign SC scene, on top of that being in a foreign country, and on top of that having done absolutely nothing on the Korean scene side of things, you really should act like a professional, with some sense of respect, let alone talk all this shit. It doesn't make you look hardcore or tough or anything like that, it just makes you look like a dick. It's embarrassingly disrespectful to the people who got you over there, which is why I believe Daniel Lee was as upset as he was to see that all the stories about how much of a tool Idra can be were true.

I find it very hard to see anyone in Korea giving a shit about the foreign scene if someone like Idra is the only one representing it. He's just embarrassing.


koreans don't give a shit about any of this, they care about being good at starcraft


really, they don't give a shit about respect?

lol.


they don't give a shit what idra says in foreigner tournaments

starcraft fans and players in korea seem to have a little more common sense than that


eh? the fomos forum comments say otherwise.


fans everywhere have no sense in general, i'm not talking about korean fans because they don't matter at all
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
June 18 2009 05:46 GMT
#246
On June 18 2009 12:41 MMC.Lazerflip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2009 23:01 Last.Midnight wrote:
IdrA don't even deserve to be casted. I won't watch these games, they don't deserve to be watched.

Yea...nothing interesting about seeing how much a top foreign player who moved to Korea and went pro has benefited from his training and seeing how he matches up against top foreigners now. That obviously doesn't deserve to be casted, no more IdrA coverage please.

LOL it's so hilarious when people don't get it.
BUL)WILL4O
Profile Joined March 2009
Bulgaria9 Posts
June 18 2009 06:20 GMT
#247
Idra is a top foreigner bla bla who care's. Is he gonna live in internet all the time? It's easy to disrespect everything in front of the computer. One day he is gonna get smacked till death I tell ya , that little prick.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
June 18 2009 06:25 GMT
#248
On June 18 2009 02:35 Substandard wrote:
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On June 17 2009 22:23 Geo.Rion wrote:

ohm you might change the word "respect" with sg else. I mean, most of the community does not respect Idra at all, not even the part which thinks he's the best foreigner by far.


Speak for yourself. I do indeed respect Idra for what he's doing. He definitly is bm and he deserves to be critized for it, but I couldn't care less for that stuff.
What I do care about is that he is the only foreigner left hanging in there in a extremely competitive Korean pro scene. He puts up with an incredible tough training regiment and a language barrier which makes even simple interaction with his fellow teammates difficult.
You might not like him or his attitude but imho his effort deserves respect.


ohm, i said most of the community, not the wole community, ofc some may respect him, i do not, and as far as i saw most of the ppl dont either. Some aknowledge him, others dont, but respect is sg else
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
BUL)WILL4O
Profile Joined March 2009
Bulgaria9 Posts
June 18 2009 06:31 GMT
#249
Seriously I think people defending Idra are brainless and have no dignity. It's like defending Jack the ripper because he is your countryman rofl. I guess all of you are the same as nerdra , how awful.
noddyz
Profile Joined October 2008
United Kingdom462 Posts
June 18 2009 07:19 GMT
#250
On June 18 2009 05:22 arb wrote:
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On June 18 2009 02:16 BigSausage wrote:
how is idra owning mondi wtf, hmm probably mondi not practicing enough....

Mondi hasnt done anything big in a long time since TSL atleast and there he didnt do anything other than get #1 on the ladder and then 2-0'd by drevien.

Everyone thinks he's some kind of god of zerg currently when in reality its someone like Ret who plays alot more and gets more results


Didn't he win this event last time?
?
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
June 18 2009 07:57 GMT
#251
On June 18 2009 12:41 MMC.Lazerflip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2009 23:01 Last.Midnight wrote:
IdrA don't even deserve to be casted. I won't watch these games, they don't deserve to be watched.

Yea...nothing interesting about seeing how much a top foreign player who moved to Korea and went pro has benefited from his training and seeing how he matches up against top foreigners now. That obviously doesn't deserve to be casted, no more IdrA coverage please.

OMG Idra has upon several occasions said things with which some fans of BroodWar are strongly dissatisfied! He should never be given any coverage at all including coverage of a tournament in which he is participating in the form of a thread on a website about competitive BroodWar where anyone is allowed to open threads!
The Nature and purpose of the martial way are universal; all selfish desires must be roasted in the tempering fires of hard training. - Masutatsu Oyama
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
June 18 2009 10:31 GMT
#252
On June 18 2009 07:07 Skew wrote:
Long before IdrA ever went to Korea he was beating Mondragon. He beat him in every event they played in and I think Mondragon was even going Protoss vs him at one point. It wasn't even close between them, is the point. IdrA had good success vs the other top guys as well, so all this about him only winning while in Korea is making me elohel.

And beyond all that, he got skilled in 1/4th the time these other famed "top foreigners" did, and didn't pussy out about going to Korea when the time came like some of them did either. Maybe some folks need to go Amazon a dictionary and look up the word talent, cuzz they obv confused.

But he is an angry little nerd. And that matters.


Pussy out about going to Korea? uhh i think most people would not choose to give up years of their lives to play a videogame 12 hours a day in a country where you can't speak the language. unless you are doing nothing with your life at all it seems like a bad choice.
Xeln4g4
Profile Joined January 2005
Italy1209 Posts
June 18 2009 10:48 GMT
#253
First time i cheer for a Z ...! Go Mondi!
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10877 Posts
June 18 2009 10:48 GMT
#254
On June 18 2009 16:19 noddyz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 05:22 arb wrote:
On June 18 2009 02:16 BigSausage wrote:
how is idra owning mondi wtf, hmm probably mondi not practicing enough....

Mondi hasnt done anything big in a long time since TSL atleast and there he didnt do anything other than get #1 on the ladder and then 2-0'd by drevien.

Everyone thinks he's some kind of god of zerg currently when in reality its someone like Ret who plays alot more and gets more results


Didn't he win this event last time?



Iirc yes, final vs white-ra, he won 3-0 but ra played total garbage there.
Revabug
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom147 Posts
June 18 2009 11:30 GMT
#255
Who will be commentating (if any)?

if he bad manners fucking Mondragon, the guy deserves to be shot.


because mondragon has contributed so much more than IdrA?
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36399 Posts
June 18 2009 17:45 GMT
#256
On June 18 2009 06:04 HanN00b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 05:22 arb wrote:
On June 18 2009 02:16 BigSausage wrote:
how is idra owning mondi wtf, hmm probably mondi not practicing enough....

Mondi hasnt done anything big in a long time since TSL atleast and there he didnt do anything other than get #1 on the ladder and then 2-0'd by drevien.

Everyone thinks he's some kind of god of zerg currently when in reality its someone like Ret who plays alot more and gets more results



Mondragon had his great time 2-3 years ago. Nowadays he is nothing special but correct me if I am wrong: Who is the more talented player? A player whos strength is his strategy, creativity and his timing is clearly more talented as a player like idra who just relay on his macro (something that with the right amount of training I think at least 30% of the people here (so a lot more than just hundred) could have as good macro as idra)

Its not only Mondragon: You heard it here first. There are at least a 100 foreign players with more talent than idra. I am not saying mondragon is the most talented of all of these and I do think there are a lot of americans too. So you see I am not a mondragon or europe fanboy.

All that matters is who is better at this moment. Why does it matter who is more talented and who would win if they had the same practice? The fact is one of them is practicing more than the other one. It's like that in the real world, you don't measure just on genetics. Thats why Kobe wins championships and McGrady doesn't. You can argue that they have the same talent but one just "works harder" than the other for whatever reason. I'm not judging Mondragon for not going to Korea, but to say "Idra can only win because he practices more, Mondragon is more talented" is seriously the dumbest thing anyone can say. How else are you supposed to beat someone if its not by practicing more? Are we supposed to take two little kids who were just born and never played computer games before and then have them play each other? Who cares if someone has more potential if he never actually reaches it. It's a useless and stupid comment that you only said to put down Idra.
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ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-18 17:45:55
June 18 2009 17:45 GMT
#257
On June 18 2009 20:30 Revabug wrote:
Who will be commentating (if any)?

Show nested quote +
if he bad manners fucking Mondragon, the guy deserves to be shot.


because mondragon has contributed so much more than IdrA?


No, because he's been longer in Starcraft than Idra and he deserves that respect for being our foreign "legend" for many years in the past, but the most important thing, he's never bad mannered anyone.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
June 18 2009 18:05 GMT
#258
thats not important
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
June 18 2009 18:07 GMT
#259
Who gives a fuck what Mondy did in the past. Fuckers, live in the here and now. The best player on that day wins and that's all that matters.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
June 18 2009 18:07 GMT
#260
On June 19 2009 02:45 ilj.psa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 20:30 Revabug wrote:
Who will be commentating (if any)?

if he bad manners fucking Mondragon, the guy deserves to be shot.


because mondragon has contributed so much more than IdrA?


No, because he's been longer in Starcraft than Idra and he deserves that respect for being our foreign "legend" for many years in the past, but the most important thing, he's never bad mannered anyone.


I don't think Idra gives a shit about Mondis past history. Let's live in the moment and state the truth which is that mondi has been flopping ever since TSL and definantly has more to prove than Idra who just recently won ESWC.
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