• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 16:22
CEST 22:22
KST 05:22
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash8[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy16ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research8Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool49Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win4
StarCraft 2
General
What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) WardiTV Mondays World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
Mutation # 519 Inner Power The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat
Brood War
General
Gypsy to Korea ASL21 General Discussion How Can I Add Timer & APM Count? A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
Azhi's Colosseum - Foreign KCM Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group F
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game General RTS Discussion Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1738 users

[Maps]Grobyc's Micro Pack [Updated: 05-08-09] - Page 2

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
May 20 2009 16:01 GMT
#21
I think it was the + in the TvZ map name that caused all these problems. I removed it and I was able to use it in single player.
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
May 20 2009 16:02 GMT
#22
On May 21 2009 01:01 Kinky wrote:
I think it was the + in the TvZ map name that caused all these problems. I removed it and I was able to use it in single player.

Do you mean multiplayer? Because that was the issue.

It works fine in single player.
Moderator。◕‿◕。
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
May 20 2009 16:09 GMT
#23
On May 21 2009 00:17 SixSongs wrote:
Great job man. I'm really enjoying mutalisk micro.

I have 2 questions:

-How do I change MnM upgs from 2/2 to lets say 0/0 or 1/0
-Is that how pros micro muta vs scourge, with patrol key? I thought it was hold position. I tried patrol and I get pwnd.

Shallow answered the second question correctly; you can use patrol or the chinese triangle.
It is impossible to reduce upgrades unfortunately. If you upgraded something and you don't want it anymore you basically have the restart the map. It is impossible otherwise, sorry
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
SixSongs
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Poland1455 Posts
May 20 2009 16:09 GMT
#24
On May 21 2009 00:43 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2009 00:17 SixSongs wrote:
Great job man. I'm really enjoying mutalisk micro.

I have 2 questions:

-How do I change MnM upgs from 2/2 to lets say 0/0 or 1/0
-Is that how pros micro muta vs scourge, with patrol key? I thought it was hold position. I tried patrol and I get pwnd.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=65335

Yes, they use patrol. Details in the thread above.


THX MAN!
The Prince of DroneS
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
May 20 2009 16:10 GMT
#25
On May 21 2009 01:09 Grobyc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2009 00:17 SixSongs wrote:
Great job man. I'm really enjoying mutalisk micro.

I have 2 questions:

-How do I change MnM upgs from 2/2 to lets say 0/0 or 1/0
-Is that how pros micro muta vs scourge, with patrol key? I thought it was hold position. I tried patrol and I get pwnd.

Shallow answered the second question correctly; you can use patrol or the chinese triangle.
It is impossible to reduce upgrades unfortunately. If you upgraded something and you don't want it anymore you basically have the restart the map. It is impossible otherwise, sorry

I think he was talking about the terrans upgrades on the muta micro map.
Moderator。◕‿◕。
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
May 20 2009 16:10 GMT
#26
On May 21 2009 01:01 Kinky wrote:
I think it was the + in the TvZ map name that caused all these problems. I removed it and I was able to use it in single player.

Ahh yes that is probably it, I think I have had the same problem regarding that before.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
May 20 2009 16:12 GMT
#27
On May 21 2009 01:10 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2009 01:09 Grobyc wrote:
On May 21 2009 00:17 SixSongs wrote:
Great job man. I'm really enjoying mutalisk micro.

I have 2 questions:

-How do I change MnM upgs from 2/2 to lets say 0/0 or 1/0
-Is that how pros micro muta vs scourge, with patrol key? I thought it was hold position. I tried patrol and I get pwnd.

Shallow answered the second question correctly; you can use patrol or the chinese triangle.
It is impossible to reduce upgrades unfortunately. If you upgraded something and you don't want it anymore you basically have the restart the map. It is impossible otherwise, sorry

I think he was talking about the terrans upgrades on the muta micro map.

Oh. Either way you can't reduce any upgrades, all you can do is upgrade your units to match him or surpass him. I guess it's impossible in this case to simulate 2-1 mutas vs 0-0 MnM's but that situation basically never happens anyway.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
SixSongs
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Poland1455 Posts
May 20 2009 16:29 GMT
#28
On May 21 2009 01:10 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2009 01:09 Grobyc wrote:
On May 21 2009 00:17 SixSongs wrote:
Great job man. I'm really enjoying mutalisk micro.

I have 2 questions:

-How do I change MnM upgs from 2/2 to lets say 0/0 or 1/0
-Is that how pros micro muta vs scourge, with patrol key? I thought it was hold position. I tried patrol and I get pwnd.

Shallow answered the second question correctly; you can use patrol or the chinese triangle.
It is impossible to reduce upgrades unfortunately. If you upgraded something and you don't want it anymore you basically have the restart the map. It is impossible otherwise, sorry

I think he was talking about the terrans upgrades on the muta micro map.




I I was talking about that. But it's ok I can just upg Muta attack/armor to make it more realistic. Thx for the gosu map.
The Prince of DroneS
Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
May 20 2009 18:50 GMT
#29
On May 21 2009 01:02 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2009 01:01 Kinky wrote:
I think it was the + in the TvZ map name that caused all these problems. I removed it and I was able to use it in single player.

Do you mean multiplayer? Because that was the issue.

It works fine in single player.

Yea, I meant multiplayer. Sorry for the confusion.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
May 20 2009 21:04 GMT
#30
I have already improved my skills thanks to this map! I'm a really slow player (generally somewhere around 100 apm) with horrible multitasking (''Damn, all that micro (which was piss poor anyway) made me forget to make a supply depot! What teh hell, five Scv's just sitting around thinking they're on vacation or something?! Go to work, you lazy bastards! Uhm, where did my marines go? Wtf, 3000 minerals in the bank from one base? Lets spend them on something... seriously, why have I made only one rax? Oh shit, here comes his mutas and I'm without turrets! Well, there's one turret, but it's placed in a retarded position blocking my Comsat. Crap. Lurkers incoming and no scan available. Argh! GG!''). However, I've spent like 30 minutes repeating the same thing: Fly around and harass and pick things off with my wraiths while constantly pumping units from a couple of production facilities, running around with an Scv pretending I build stuff with it (), dropping MnM to take out Spore colonies, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat... My apm was continuously at 200 for about half an hour! Felt great.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
ramen247
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1256 Posts
May 20 2009 22:43 GMT
#31
On May 21 2009 06:04 Holgerius wrote:
I have already improved my skills thanks to this map! I'm a really slow player (generally somewhere around 100 apm) with horrible multitasking (''Damn, all that micro (which was piss poor anyway) made me forget to make a supply depot! What teh hell, five Scv's just sitting around thinking they're on vacation or something?! Go to work, you lazy bastards! Uhm, where did my marines go? Wtf, 3000 minerals in the bank from one base? Lets spend them on something... seriously, why have I made only one rax? Oh shit, here comes his mutas and I'm without turrets! Well, there's one turret, but it's placed in a retarded position blocking my Comsat. Crap. Lurkers incoming and no scan available. Argh! GG!''). However, I've spent like 30 minutes repeating the same thing: Fly around and harass and pick things off with my wraiths while constantly pumping units from a couple of production facilities, running around with an Scv pretending I build stuff with it (), dropping MnM to take out Spore colonies, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat... My apm was continuously at 200 for about half an hour! Felt great.


its easier if you have no pressure from a player that attacks.
i hate this ugly firebat. i want a marine.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
May 20 2009 23:17 GMT
#32
On May 21 2009 07:43 ramen247 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2009 06:04 Holgerius wrote:
I have already improved my skills thanks to this map! I'm a really slow player (generally somewhere around 100 apm) with horrible multitasking (''Damn, all that micro (which was piss poor anyway) made me forget to make a supply depot! What teh hell, five Scv's just sitting around thinking they're on vacation or something?! Go to work, you lazy bastards! Uhm, where did my marines go? Wtf, 3000 minerals in the bank from one base? Lets spend them on something... seriously, why have I made only one rax? Oh shit, here comes his mutas and I'm without turrets! Well, there's one turret, but it's placed in a retarded position blocking my Comsat. Crap. Lurkers incoming and no scan available. Argh! GG!''). However, I've spent like 30 minutes repeating the same thing: Fly around and harass and pick things off with my wraiths while constantly pumping units from a couple of production facilities, running around with an Scv pretending I build stuff with it (), dropping MnM to take out Spore colonies, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat... My apm was continuously at 200 for about half an hour! Felt great.


its easier if you have no pressure from a player that attacks.

I've never reached that amount of APM before, even when I've played against the computer (which doesn't attack). Being able to practise things over and over again has improved my skills really fast. It will of course not work out just that well in a real game, but my hands are clearly much faster now than a couple of hours ago. The muscle memory is improving a lot.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
May 21 2009 05:07 GMT
#33
Np Holgerius, I hope you continue to improve!
On May 21 2009 07:43 ramen247 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2009 06:04 Holgerius wrote:
I have already improved my skills thanks to this map! I'm a really slow player (generally somewhere around 100 apm) with horrible multitasking (''Damn, all that micro (which was piss poor anyway) made me forget to make a supply depot! What teh hell, five Scv's just sitting around thinking they're on vacation or something?! Go to work, you lazy bastards! Uhm, where did my marines go? Wtf, 3000 minerals in the bank from one base? Lets spend them on something... seriously, why have I made only one rax? Oh shit, here comes his mutas and I'm without turrets! Well, there's one turret, but it's placed in a retarded position blocking my Comsat. Crap. Lurkers incoming and no scan available. Argh! GG!''). However, I've spent like 30 minutes repeating the same thing: Fly around and harass and pick things off with my wraiths while constantly pumping units from a couple of production facilities, running around with an Scv pretending I build stuff with it (), dropping MnM to take out Spore colonies, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat... My apm was continuously at 200 for about half an hour! Felt great.


its easier if you have no pressure from a player that attacks.

Shhhh it makes me feel like my maps are more important ;D
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
AtlaS
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1001 Posts
May 21 2009 07:18 GMT
#34
Been looking for a PvT push break map for one of my friends for a while, so glad to see that it's on your to do list.

Any chance you have a general time period when that map will come out?
I don't have mono anymore. Woooo!
NotJumperer
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States1371 Posts
May 21 2009 08:39 GMT
#35
--- Nuked ---
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
May 21 2009 15:20 GMT
#36
On May 21 2009 17:39 Jumperer wrote:
Units spawning could use improvement imo. Make units spawn from barracks/factories/starports instead of from the beacon

Actually yeah I guess that would make more sense than the beacon spawning. the problem is, when they units are done building you would have a huge army, and if you max out you can't 5m6m7m8c9c0t or anything to macro.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
May 21 2009 15:41 GMT
#37
Make a 'suicide' or 'kill my units' location then
POGGERS
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
May 21 2009 16:05 GMT
#38
Okay, that should work. I'll change the when I get home today and re-host it.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-02 02:20:39
June 02 2009 01:58 GMT
#39
BUMP

Working on the ZvP map currently. I plan on including a macro section(where you can either use the units to fight with or have them die so the map doesn't lag out or anything, multiple scenarios of micro vs zealots(+1 or not), zeal + goon, zeal + 2HT, zeal goon HT archon, etc. With this part you choose your own army. You can select as many units to fight with as you want, and reset it after if you think you used too many to make it realistic, or too little units, making it too hard. Muta harass vs a P base isn't really that common in ZvP so I won't include a bigass section like I did in the first muta one in this one. I'll include cannon HT reaver base breaks too, but other than that I'm not too sure if anything else needs to go in this one.

The PvT map will be following this and that is the last recommendation so far. Feel free to recommend other ones after that.

EDIT: Also going to include a section for running zerglings around a typical P base after doing a 1gate tech or 2gate or something a couple minutes into the game for practice at picking off probes and stuff.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
June 05 2009 23:56 GMT
#40
I really don't like the valks in the muta micro map. I really just wanna muta micro vs m&m, not have to deal with valks and vessels. Like I can understand turrets around of course and even a vessel ok, but having the valks around just kind of makes it too difficult for something that is meant for practice. If I have to have scourge in my control group, I can't really muta micro b/c I have like only 7 mutas and the rest scourge and the ovie. Just my opinion.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 38m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
UpATreeSC 181
ProTech131
Hui .88
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 4211
Mini 945
Horang2 651
EffOrt 482
firebathero 270
BeSt 209
Soulkey 183
actioN 146
Dewaltoss 110
hero 42
[ Show more ]
Backho 34
910 25
Sexy 14
IntoTheRainbow 8
Dota 2
monkeys_forever150
capcasts58
Counter-Strike
fl0m1398
byalli628
minikerr10
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu514
Other Games
summit1g8926
gofns8261
Grubby3083
FrodaN1924
Beastyqt665
RotterdaM356
ArmadaUGS208
Fuzer 168
C9.Mang0119
ToD91
Trikslyr45
ZombieGrub28
KnowMe22
Organizations
StarCraft 2
angryscii 33
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 36
• HerbMon 26
• sM.Zik 4
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV859
• lizZardDota277
Other Games
• imaqtpie1044
• Shiphtur137
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
3h 38m
RSL Revival
13h 38m
Maru vs MaxPax
BSL
22h 38m
RSL Revival
1d 10h
Cure vs Rogue
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 17h
BSL
1d 22h
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
WardiTV Winter 2026
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
ASL Season 21
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.