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Each one of the following players has been in the KESPA top 20 since the summer of 2008. Every year a new theme emerges in the starcraft world, and this year was no different. Tasteless is helping revolutionize the foreign starcraft scene with English broadcasts of the GomTV tournament.  NonY is the new hope for foreign starcraft players everywhere with his immediate success at eSTRO. However, the story of 2008 is without a doubt the success of these six protoss geniuses. The success of SK Telecom T1, Samsung KHAN, and even STX SouL can be attributed mostly to the promise of these rising stars. 2009 will be the year to show us just how high they can rise. Bisu became the first Protoss to win 3 MSL titles and is currently striving to become the first player to break 2400 ELO.
For now, let's take a glance together at the magnificent year they brought to professional starcraft fans everywhere...
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Bisu(Kim Taek Yong) – 김택용
Birth Date: 1989-11-03 Age: 19 (Korean: 20)
AKAs: Bisu[Shield]
Nickname(s): The Revolutionist, Bruce Lee Toss, Bee Suit
Overall Record: 59 wins - 35 losses (62.77%)
PvT Record: 15 wins - 12 losses (55.56%)
PvZ Record: 20 wins - 13 losses (60.61%)
PvP Record: 24 wins - 10 losses (70.59%)
Best Streak: 12 wins Worst Streak: 5 losses
[Individual Leagues]
[Proleague]
BeSt(Doh Jae Wook) – 도재욱
Birth Date: 1989-10-06 Age: 19 (Korean: 20)
AKAs: BeSt[HyO], BeSt[WHITE]
Nickname(s): (None or unknown)
Overall Record: 63 wins - 27 losses (70.00%)
PvT Record: 22 wins - 6 losses (78.57%)
PvZ Record: 18 wins - 14 losses (56.25%)
PvP Record: 23 wins - 7 losses (76.67%)
Best Streak: 11 wins Worst Streak: 4 losses
[Individual Leagues]
[Proleague]
Birth Date: 1989-05-03 Age: 19 (Korean: 20)
AKAs: Dream.t)JangBi
Nickname(s): (None or unknown)
Overall Record: 64 wins - 29 losses (68.82%)
PvT Record: 27 wins - 11 losses (71.05%)
PvZ Record: 17 wins - 5 losses (77.27%)
PvP Record: 20 wins - 13 losses (60.61%)
Best Streak: 7 wins Worst Streak: 4 losses
[Individual Leagues]
[Proleague]
Stork(Song Byung Goo) – 송병구
Birth Date: 1988-08-04 Age: 20 (Korean: 21)
AKAs: Stork[gm], mansa[ok], sbg[gm]
Nickname(s): The Bird, Dinosaur Toss
Overall Record: 66 wins - 38 losses (63.46%)
PvT Record: 24 wins - 9 losses (72.73%)
PvZ Record: 17 wins - 7 losses (70.83%)
PvP Record: 25 wins - 22 losses (53.19%)
Best Streak: 9 wins Worst Streak: 3 losses
[Individual Leagues]
[Proleague]
Kal(Kim Ku Hyun) – 김구현
Birth Date: 1990-10-18 Age: 18 (Korean: 19)
AKAs: Goojila
Nickname(s): (None or unknown)
Overall Record: 61 wins - 43 losses (58.65%)
PvT Record: 28 wins - 19 losses (59.57%)
PvZ Record: 16 wins - 7 losses (69.57%)
PvP Record: 17 wins - 17 losses (50.00%)
Best Streak: 6 wins Worst Streak: 3 losses
[Individual Leagues]
[Proleague]
free (Yoon Yong Tae) – 윤용태
Birth Date: 1988-07-14 Age: 20 (Korean: 21)
AKAs: free[gm], pretty[gm]
Nickname(s): (None or unknown)
Overall Record: 48 wins - 37 losses (56.47%)
PvT Record: 16 wins - 12 losses (57.14%)
PvZ Record: 16 wins - 9 losses (64.00%)
PvP Record: 16 wins - 16 losses (50.00%)
Best Streak: 6 wins Worst Streak: 3 losses
[Individual Leagues]
[Proleague]
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[Maps]
This section is just a small bit of information about how the current hot maps played out over the course of 2008. As you can see, most of the maps have no definitive representation of games to be able to deduce any real matchup advantages. I only included them to provide a somewhat more inclusive picture of the environment in 2008 leading into 2009.
AndromedaRecord: TvZ: 24-11 (68.6%) | ZvP: 35-20 (63.6%) | PvT: 28-23 (54.9%)Mirrors: 11 TvT | 29 ZvZ | 18 PvPAthena 2Record: TvZ: 5-4 (55.6%) | ZvP: 0-1 (0%) | PvT: 6-4 (60%)Mirrors: 3 TvT | 4 ZvZ | 7 PvPByzantium 2 Record: TvZ: 10-8 (55.6%) | ZvP: 3-3 (50%) | PvT: 4-5 (44.4%)Mirrors: 2 TvT | 0 ZvZ | 5 PvPColosseum II Record: TvZ: 7-3 (70%) | ZvP: 8-12 (40%) | PvT: 10-8 (55.6%)Mirrors: 2 TvT | 2 ZvZ | 10 PvPDestination Record: TvZ: 24-11 (68.6%) | ZvP: 23-20 (53.5%) | PvT: 25-15 (62.5%)Mirrors: 23 TvT | 15 ZvZ | 14 PvPMedusaRecord: TvZ: 11-16 (40.7%) | ZvP: 14-19 (42.4%) | PvT: 21-8 (72.4%)Mirrors: 15 TvT | 11 ZvZ | 24 PvPNeo HarmonyRecord: TvZ: 4-5 (44.4%) | ZvP: 2-1 (66.7%) | PvT: 3-6 (33.3%)Mirrors: 8 TvT | 3 ZvZ | 2 PvP Neo Requiem Record: TvZ: 6-5 (54.5%) | ZvP: 17-15 (53.1%) | PvT: 12-6 (66.7%)Mirrors: 5 TvT | 10 ZvZ | 18 PvPRush Hour 3 Record: TvZ: 8-1 (88.9%) | ZvP: 2-0 (100%) | PvT: 0-0 (0%)Mirrors: 12 TvT | 2 ZvZ | 0 PvPSin Chupung-RyeongRecord: TvZ: 5-3 (62.5%) | ZvP: 2-2 (50%) | PvT: 0-5 (0%)Mirrors: 7 TvT | 6 ZvZ | 5 PvP
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[ELO Peak comparison]
The following section compares the current leader of the pack against past 2300+ ELO Peaks. Each one of these players are outright legends in their own right. I hope the community finds some of the information useful in obtaining a sense of perspective before we cry out to nerf Protoss based on the play of a few special individuals.
Bisu06-01-2008 -- 01-04-2009 (???? Peak) Overall Record: 48 wins - 22 losses (68.57%) PvT Record: 19 wins - 7 losses (73.08%) PvZ Record: 16 wins - 4 losses (80.00%) PvP Record: 10 wins - 9 losses (52.63%) Post peak --> Unknown  Flash11-01-2007 -- 06-11-2008 (2336 Peak) Overall Record: 51 wins - 19 losses (72.86%) TvT Record: 20 wins - 6 losses (76.92%) TvZ Record: 12 wins - 7 losses (63.16%) TvP Record: 19 wins - 6 losses (76.00%) Post Peak --> 48 wins - 27 losses (64.00%) iloveoov12-01-2003 -- 07-01-2004 (2329 Peak) Overall Record: 48 wins - 13 losses (78.69%) TvT Record: 19 wins - 10 losses (65.52%) TvZ Record: 16 wins - 0 loss (100.00%) TvP Record: 13 wins - 3 losses (81.25%) (Note: TLPD has no evidence of a zerg loss before Julyzerg, this extends to 27-0) Post Peak --> 162 wins - 122 losses (57.04%)  Jaedong07-14-2007 -- 02-14-2008 (2309 Peak) Overall Record: 46 wins - 17 losses (73.02%) ZvT Record: 25 wins - 6 losses (80.65%) ZvZ Record: 12 wins - 4 losses (75.00%) ZvP Record: 9 wins - 7 losses (56.25%) Post Peak --> 65 wins - 35 losses (65.00%) sAviOr07-09-2006 -- 02-09-2007 (2301 Peak) Overall Record: 38 wins - 10 losses (79.17%) ZvT Record: 9 wins - 4 losses (69.23%) ZvZ Record: 12 wins - 4 losses (75.00%) ZvP Record: 17 wins - 2 losses (89.47%) Post Peak --> 71 wins - 66 losses (51.82%)
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January 01, 2009 - February 01, 2009
Bisu Record: 19 wins - 6 losses (76.00%)
BeSt Record: 4 wins - 5 losses (44.44%)
JangBi Record: 6 wins - 4 losses (60.00%)
Stork Record: 5 wins - 5 losses (50.00%)
Kal Record: 1 wins - 5 losses (16.67%)
free Record: 8 wins - 2 losses (80.00%)
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United States10774 Posts
woah this is awesome. thank you.
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I hope they die though. I kind of hate protoss now x(( Gogo Jaedong, Savior and FLASH!!!
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Canada9720 Posts
nicely formatted, thanks for the read
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Woah, a dragon topic that actually delivers, this is so awesome.
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god, this thread is amazing. i like it, i really hope bisu takes it all the way.
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Cool post, I dig the stats.
Kudos.
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BeSt got a dragon change?
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Good stats compilation, thanks!
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can anyone explain what ELO peak is? 
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are the data from TLPD?
there must be something wrong, either incomplete or unofficial
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On January 06 2009 11:21 JMave wrote:
I hope they die though. I kind of hate protoss now x(( Gogo Jaedong, Savior and FLASH!!!
It's alot of pvp an pvp and pvp and pvp. It gets boring sometimes.
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from the list, free[gm] might get dropped but the 5 of the above are no doubt, one of the best protosses in the world
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Aside from the fact that I think its lame that jaedong has peaked at different times in different matchups, zvt and zvp were six months apart, so he has an abysmall zvp record at the time of his highest dominence.
I think this op is great bisu definately belongs up there next to everybody else. The former shell of a star named savior is sad too see up there next to jaedong thou =(.
Protoss will not dominate this year.
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On January 06 2009 11:41 hsoul wrote:
are the data from TLPD?
there must be something wrong, either incomplete or unofficial
Can you please explain what you mean?
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Sweden33719 Posts
Great post, but instead of saying 2008 Bacchus OnGameNet Starleague – Loss to Flash in Semifinals
It should mention that he beat Upmagic for 3rd Place, IMO. Or list both.
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TIme to bring back Mercury
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On January 06 2009 12:12 FrozenArbiter wrote:Great post, but instead of saying It should mention that he beat Upmagic for 3rd Place, IMO. Or list both.
Sorry, but I don't see this information. Maybe it was another tournament you are thinking of?
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On January 06 2009 12:35 FzeroXx wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2009 12:12 FrozenArbiter wrote:Great post, but instead of saying 2008 Bacchus OnGameNet Starleague – Loss to Flash in Semifinals It should mention that he beat Upmagic for 3rd Place, IMO. Or list both. Sorry, but I don't see this information. Maybe it was another tournament you are thinking of?
I believe he beat Upmagic for 3rd in EVER 2007. In Bacchus, he lost to Flash, then OGN decided to seed the top four players instead.
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(Z) sAviOr
07-09-2006 -- 02-09-2007 (2301 Peak)
Overall Record: 38 wins - 10 losses (79.17%)
ZvT Record: 9 wins - 4 losses (69.23%)
ZvZ Record: 12 wins - 4 losses (75.00%)
ZvP Record: 17 wins - 2 losses (89.47%)
Post Peak --> 71 wins - 66 losses (51.82%)
Compared to others ELO peak. Savior's was very scary.And percents are very high.
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On January 06 2009 12:11 FzeroXx wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2009 11:41 hsoul wrote:
are the data from TLPD?
there must be something wrong, either incomplete or unofficial Can you please explain what you mean?
OK, take it easy
the data cant be official, because you put GOM Classic series into them.
so the matches must be wrong.
anyway, this is still a good reference
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Correct. It just includes every game entered into TLPD.. I did not take into account what leagues were active at the time or whether they were sanctioned by Kespa.
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Wow, Bisu has awesome stats, and Best is so dominant in vT and vP. I was expecting Stork's vP to be higher but then again with those other dragons rampaging, its tough eh... but wait, Bisu is owning vP.
Oh, and the actual Year of the Dragon is still 3 years away 
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BeSt boggles me. His micro and game sense is kinda lacking, but he just rolls over his opponents regardless.
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joohyunee
Korea (South)1087 Posts
just an addition: nicknames of the Six Dragons most frequently used amongst koreans:
Bisu: The Revolutionist
Best: The Brute
Jangbi: Heo-Neu-Nim (pun on the korean word for God => Ha Neu Nim)
Stork: Supreme Commander
Kal: The Joker
Free: The Emperor of Lightning
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MrHoon
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On January 06 2009 12:59 koreasilver wrote:
BeSt boggles me. His micro and game sense is kinda lacking, but he just rolls over his opponents regardless.
yeah seriously
I have never seen someone who loses 3 shuttles full of reavers and loses most of their corsairs
yet proceeds to run over their opponent.
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Hmm, as I said in the other thread you can see "better" stats if you look at some clearly defined points.
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Bisu after losing to Stork in Incruit OSL (11.10.08) has gone 33 wins - 8 losses (80.49%).
This is much better than the 48 wins - 22 losses (68.57%) that the stats above credit him with.
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Flash after he lost to Stork in the EVER2007 OSL (12.04.07) to right before Luxury beat him in the EVER2008 OSL (6-11-08) went on a streak of 47 wins - 14 losses (77.05%). Also with a 29 wins - 5 losses (85.29%) streak near the end of that.
Again, this is better than the 51 wins - 19 losses (72.86%) credited above.
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Jaedong (after getting beat down by oov, nada and casy 5.26.07 to 2.14.08 3-1ing Flash in GSI) was 61 wins - 20 losses (75.31%)... with a streak of 24 wins - 3 losses (88.89%) at the end of that reign. Jaedong has also been the most consistent of the triad (Bisu, Flash Jaedong) since that time.
Very slightly better than the 46 wins - 17 losses (73.02%) credited above.
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I'm pretty sure the oov & savior stats are fairly correct as they're at the start of the career as opposed to the middle/now like Bisu, Flash and Jaedong.. so no need for an analysis there.
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Nice post
There should be 3rd place results aswell
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
sick stats holy shit thanks for posting O__O
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lol, JD post peak win ratio 65%
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When I asked Chill for "who is the best player of six-dragons", he said: Jaedong...
LOL, I almost cried =/
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Then Flash must be the dragonslayer ^-^
Great post indeed, enjoyed reading!
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iloveoov
12-01-2003 -- 07-01-2004 (2329 Peak)
Overall Record: 48 wins - 13 losses (78.69%)
TvT Record: 19 wins - 10 losses (65.52%)
TvZ Record: 16 wins - 0 loss (100.00%)
TvP Record: 13 wins - 3 losses (81.25%)
(Note: TLPD has no evidence of a zerg loss before Julyzerg, this extends to 27-0)
Post Peak --> 162 wins - 122 losses (57.04%)
100%...
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And I was thinking "oh no not another dragons thread.."!
I'm impressed, nice thread!
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all i see is 1 dragon and 5 paper dragons
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Best is a second real Dragon .
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haha. the infamous 100% TvZ for Oov. What a gorilla.
Nice dragon pictures btw.
Each lizard fit perfectly with the respective player.
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Flash A Real Dragon Slayer
vs BeSt 1:1
vs Stork 7
vs Kal 1:0
vs Jangbi 1:1
vs free 6:2
vs Bisu 8:3
Total 24 wins 16 loses (60%)
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HOLY SHIT DUDE. TURN THOSE PICS INTO WALLPAPERS PLZ!!!!
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On January 06 2009 21:44 hsoul wrote:Flash A Real Dragon Slayer vs BeSt 1:1 vs Stork 7 vs Kal 1:0 vs Jangbi 1:1 vs free 6:2 vs Bisu 8:3 Total 24 wins 16 loses (60%)
I cant see Flash 1:1 vs Best.
Best 1:0 Flash in TLPD.
MB they played FF for you.
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Flash played a game with BeSt in ProLeague Rival Battle, 08-09-21,
in that game Flash used protoss and BeSt was terran.
the map was Python.
of course, it is an unofficial game
you can get more information from YGosu.
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Are these stats only as of the 2008 season? It never said it anywhere specifically, but Bisu is missing 2 MSL wins for himself, and they are all short on a lot of games. I just wanted clarification.
Sorry to be nit picky :D
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On January 06 2009 22:46 hsoul wrote:
Flash played a game with BeSt in ProLeague Rival Battle, 08-09-21,
in that game Flash used protoss and BeSt was terran.
the map was Python.
of course, it is an unofficial game
you can get more information from YGosu.
ROFL, mb if u will count how Hyuk all killed KTF ???
And include Best's bnet stats . I think he is 4000-2000. Include STX masters and other unofficial games.
U are crazy man. How can u include that game ?? When Flash was toss and best was Terran. U must be no brain user.
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On January 06 2009 22:50 monstar123 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2009 22:46 hsoul wrote:
Flash played a game with BeSt in ProLeague Rival Battle, 08-09-21,
in that game Flash used protoss and BeSt was terran.
the map was Python.
of course, it is an unofficial game
you can get more information from YGosu.
ROFL, mb if u will count how Hyuk all killed KTF ??? And include Best's bnet stats . I think he is 4000-2000. Include STX masters and other unofficial games. U are crazy man. How can u include that game ?? When Flash was toss and best was Terran. U must be no brain user.
hi, brain man~
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On January 06 2009 12:12 FrozenArbiter wrote:Great post, but instead of saying It should mention that he beat Upmagic for 3rd Place, IMO. Or list both.
That victory was in EVER 2007, not Bacchus - they stopped handing out bronzes in Bacchus, although it would have been Bisu vs. Luxury.
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On January 06 2009 21:48 o3.power91 wrote:
HOLY SHIT DUDE. TURN THOSE PICS INTO WALLPAPERS PLZ!!!!
Better yet, put all 6 into one wallpaper.
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On January 06 2009 19:58 CZ4A wrote:iloveoov12-01-2003 -- 07-01-2004 (2329 Peak) Overall Record: 48 wins - 13 losses (78.69%) TvT Record: 19 wins - 10 losses (65.52%) TvZ Record: 16 wins - 0 loss (100.00%) TvP Record: 13 wins - 3 losses (81.25%) (Note: TLPD has no evidence of a zerg loss before Julyzerg, this extends to 27-0) Post Peak --> 162 wins - 122 losses (57.04%) 100%...
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/5_iloveoov/games/vs/Z#tblt-48-1-1-ASC
It's beautiful.
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I don't like this whole Dragon-Shit..
Bisu should stand (nearly) alone. Seriously... The only other guy that could come close to him in series against several other good players these days is Stork, the others are just about *as* good in some matchups (Kal PvZ, Best PvT/P...) while these 2 guys look kinda *complete*.
On the other side, what do we have now? A Protoss OSL winner and a Protoss MSL winner this year. That’s about it. If we would have 2 OSL and 2 MSL wins for Protoss then all this Dragontalk would be worth something. The next MSL/OSL better show another Protoss domination or this whole Dragonshit will just be remembered as that: Shit.
The only thing really mindblowing that happened was the *only-protoss* MSL.
"Insert rant about Best because he is boring and a choker here"
"Insert rant about Kal because he is inconsistent here"
"Insert rant about Jangbi because he hasn't achieved very much here (well silver, stork has gotten several and was laughed at :p)"
"Insert rant about Free because he also hasn't achieved very much here"
Seriously, before glorifing someone they should actually win something.
And btw: You said they brought us a good Year? How is mass PvP good in any sense of the word? Seriously...
Jaedong/Flash/July/FBH/Forgg/Effort/... I don't care shall rape em good this year.
Most probably i just had to watch to many PvP's this year...
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Just being a troll, its actually going to be the year of the cow according to the chinese calendar. Dragon year gna take a few more years :D
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stork 's dragon is awesome, kal bisu best 's dragons are very fitting too
Free dragon's doesn't really connect, and where is Jangbi storm dragon ?
Free dragon should shoot Dragoon fire :D and Jangbi dragon needs insane storm
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Meh, I actually really like PvP. It's on such a razor's edge, it's exciting.
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This is great. Thanks a millli!
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On January 06 2009 23:57 Velr wrote:
I don't like this whole Dragon-Shit..
Bisu should stand (nearly) alone. Seriously... The only other guy that could come close to him in series against several other good players these days is Stork, the others are just about *as* good in some matchups (Kal PvZ, Best PvT/P...) while these 2 guys look kinda *complete*.
On the other side, what do we have now? A Protoss OSL winner and a Protoss MSL winner this year. That’s about it. If we would have 2 OSL and 2 MSL wins for Protoss then all this Dragontalk would be worth something. The next MSL/OSL better show another Protoss domination or this whole Dragonshit will just be remembered as that: Shit.
The only thing really mindblowing that happened was the *only-protoss* MSL.
"Insert rant about Best because he is boring and a choker here"
"Insert rant about Kal because he is inconsistent here"
"Insert rant about Jangbi because he hasn't achieved very much here (well silver, stork has gotten several and was laughed at :p)"
"Insert rant about Free because he also hasn't achieved very much here"
Seriously, before glorifing someone they should actually win something.
And btw: You said they brought us a good Year? How is mass PvP good in any sense of the word? Seriously...
Jaedong/Flash/July/FBH/Forgg/Effort/... I don't care shall rape em good this year.
Most probably i just had to watch to many PvP's this year...
So basically you are saying BeSt, Jangbi, Free, and Kal all suck and still bring us mass PvPs?
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Great article, thumbs up.
I lol'd at Stork's dragon though.
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
On January 07 2009 01:56 o3.power91 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2009 23:57 Velr wrote:
I don't like this whole Dragon-Shit..
Bisu should stand (nearly) alone. Seriously... The only other guy that could come close to him in series against several other good players these days is Stork, the others are just about *as* good in some matchups (Kal PvZ, Best PvT/P...) while these 2 guys look kinda *complete*.
On the other side, what do we have now? A Protoss OSL winner and a Protoss MSL winner this year. That’s about it. If we would have 2 OSL and 2 MSL wins for Protoss then all this Dragontalk would be worth something. The next MSL/OSL better show another Protoss domination or this whole Dragonshit will just be remembered as that: Shit.
The only thing really mindblowing that happened was the *only-protoss* MSL.
"Insert rant about Best because he is boring and a choker here"
"Insert rant about Kal because he is inconsistent here"
"Insert rant about Jangbi because he hasn't achieved very much here (well silver, stork has gotten several and was laughed at :p)"
"Insert rant about Free because he also hasn't achieved very much here"
Seriously, before glorifing someone they should actually win something.
And btw: You said they brought us a good Year? How is mass PvP good in any sense of the word? Seriously...
Jaedong/Flash/July/FBH/Forgg/Effort/... I don't care shall rape em good this year.
Most probably i just had to watch to many PvP's this year... So basically you are saying BeSt, Jangbi, Free, and Kal all suck and still bring us mass PvPs?
more like Best, Jangbi, Free, and Kal suck for bringing us mass PvPs.
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Looking at the Savior --> Jaedong stats makes me hope for some sort of ZvP revival. Damn Bisu cursed the entire matchup.
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its interesting but kal and free shouldnt be included anymore
they were both really good but the level of their play has just dropped off dramatically while stork bisu best and jangbi have just been phenomenal. especially bisu
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Bisu is a fucking beast.
Hell all of them are beasts, especially Bisu.. e.e Protoss are beasts?
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hahah they got dragons while Stork got a T-rex. Where can i get those dragon pics btw?
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that dragon stuff is really a bit stupid
i personaly see a huge gap between bisu and free e.g
jangbi & kal are both better than free if u ask me but still i think stork and bisu are something different and more special
actually particularly Bisu
B I S U !
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
I laughed so hard when I saw Stork's dragon. omfg...
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On January 06 2009 22:47 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Are these stats only as of the 2008 season? It never said it anywhere specifically, but Bisu is missing 2 MSL wins for himself, and they are all short on a lot of games. I just wanted clarification.
Sorry to be nit picky :D
Yes, this post only refers to what happened in 2008. I'm currently working on a bit of Old Vod Night sort of material that only refers to MSL/OSL history for a bit of a "10 years of Starcraft" recap.
On January 06 2009 23:42 Love.Zelduck wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2009 21:48 o3.power91 wrote:
HOLY SHIT DUDE. TURN THOSE PICS INTO WALLPAPERS PLZ!!!! Better yet, put all 6 into one wallpaper.
http://uploading.com/files/45NMCV9A/dragonwallpaper.png.html
Best size I can go up without ruining the picture quality.
On January 06 2009 23:57 Velr wrote:
I don't like this whole Dragon-Shit..
...And btw: You said they brought us a good Year? How is mass PvP good in any sense of the word? Seriously...
Most probably i just had to watch to many PvP's this year...
You weren't amazed at the level of starcraft played this year? Jaedong, Flash, Mind, Effort, and others are all so much better for having had to beat so many good protoss players. I would also rather see PvP than most players' TvT or ZvZ.
On January 07 2009 03:37 ish0wstopper wrote:
its interesting but kal and free shouldnt be included anymore
they were both really good but the level of their play has just dropped off dramatically while stork bisu best and jangbi have just been phenomenal. especially bisu
I actually agree with you about Free. I think Kal still has a lot of potential like Jangbi, but he hasn't been performing well. I wasn't about to dismiss the "6" dragons as a whole though because that is how they are known.
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Nice write up, definaltey.
Let's here it for Bisu!!
Legendary Revolutionist!!
I'm loving this new age, the Golden-Age of Protoss. I've been following pro-gaming Ever since 2K2, a little before then when I started competitive SC but the Sky OGN starleague final was the 1st ones I seen, Where[Oops]Reach took on BoxeR and of course dominated who was the player that was #1 for years in many leagues and events; Reach was victorious 3-1.
[Oops]Reach then became my favorite Protoss, then and always.
It's been a long time as a Protoss fan. I've seen many games, many users of each race come and go. The entire time, up until now, Protoss was almost considered 'weaker' or seemed weaker in league/event results, barely managing to get into Finals - or if they did, falling to stronger mechanics of Terran (i.e. the age of NaDa or iloveoov) or quicker macro strats of the Zerg (i.e. YellOw or ChoJJa).
There has been many times when there would be a Protoss user make it to a finals or two, but victory has been tough and often slips through the cracks ( Reach v YellOw finals 2-3, more recently BeSt[HyO] v July 0-3 ). We've only been given rare gems in the Protoss race, w/ artists or Executors that brilliantly shine and exert their control over the Templar. Players like Nal_rA, [Oops]Reach, Kingdom. fOru. Unfortunately, w/ as much skill as they possesed, we Protoss fans would be lucky to see 1 or 2 of them make it into the RO8 or better in starleagues and very rarely would you see a Protoss v Protoss final (i.e. Nal_rA v Kingdom mycube OGN starleague 2-3)
However, again, due to this Golden-Age of Protoss, a new light has been shown throughout the galaxy. A ray of Hope. A ray of Glory. With these new executors, they're displaying the true Power, The Art of Protoss.
Pure Praise be to the Six-Dragons!
Good luck to Bisu[Shield] // BeSt[HyO] // Dream.t)JangBi // SouL_GoojiLa
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today has been very sad
wemade's our very own nada crushed stork, upper tier dragon
and odin (lol?) ling raped oh so consistent jangbi.
2 dragons slayed in one day isnt good sign
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ZvP Record: 17 wins - 2 losses (89.47%)
Inhuman. This defines domination.
+ Show Spoiler +not quite as much as iloveoov TvZ but you get the point
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Rock sucks ridiculously badly, why should he be a dragon?
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Sweden33719 Posts
On January 06 2009 12:35 FzeroXx wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2009 12:12 FrozenArbiter wrote:Great post, but instead of saying 2008 Bacchus OnGameNet Starleague – Loss to Flash in Semifinals It should mention that he beat Upmagic for 3rd Place, IMO. Or list both. Sorry, but I don't see this information. Maybe it was another tournament you are thinking of?
Ah you are completely right, I guess they happened so close together that I mashed them up since he was top 4 in both 
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I like seeing good games, except the good games from Best :p. None of theseplayers i would call bad, none of them are boring (except Best :p)... But:
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Aside from Bisu and Stork they are overhyped due to this Dragon stuff. Yes they are among the Top players for sure, but they are not some whole diffrent entity than the top players of the other races. Jangbi, Kal, Free and Best were all just strong in one of the 2 big leagues and good/decent in Proleauge (none was mindblowing if i got the stats right out of my head). It's not like they dominated Starcraft for an absurd amount of time.
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To much PvP.. TOOO much. TvT and ZvZ is also not exciting, well ZvZ at least does not take long ^^. I have no problems with tons of good Protoss players, i have a problem with tons of Protoss playing Protoss vs Protoss. I really begin to root just against the "Protoss" no matter what guy they are facing.
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Did you see Much v Tazza? That was a really exciting PvP.
+ Show Spoiler +Bisu v Pusan was an average game just because Pusan is slumping so hard right now.
Terrans dominated for 5-6~ years and you're jumping off liking any Protoss because of one year of good play from a few of them. :[
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