K so I've brought up Leta as a potential top Terran for a few weeks now. Now that he's added qualifications for both MST and OSL on top of his monster ProLeague stats, I'm gonna take this post to declare Leta as the next Terran star.
(pic taken from Plexa's blog)
In an era already set with a dominant Terran, and with many powerful players ready to take his place, what sets Leta apart from the crowd? Let's start with cold, hard numbers:
That's 21 Proleague matches with a dominating 16 win, 5 loss record. However, Leta had always been relatively strong in Proleague, as anyone who watched last season's playoffs could attest. But since June, Leta has shown excellence in the individual game leagues as well, with an aggregate record of 32 wins and 9 losses since June 2008. 16wins, 5 losses from Proleague. 16 wins, 4 losses from individual leagues. That's a 78% win rate, folks.
But it can't be just stats, right? Like my Econ professor said all last semester: "There's lies, there's damn lies, and there's statistics." Point being that there has to be something beyond the quantitative that demonstrates Leta's potential for greatness, something that makes him unique. For example, Flash has his macro, his prodigy/non-emo persona, and the anti-carrier build. FBH rapes zergs, dances, strips. ForGG looks like a gorilla. What does Leta have?
I'll identify two traits that sets Leta apart:
1.) Mid to late game Strategy
(Really 14cc vs Leta facport, minimal harass on Really. BO disadvantage means nothing to Leta!)
Maybe not the sexiest attribute to have, but it certainly rings up the W's. Simply put, the longer the game goes, the more likely Leta will win. In fact, most games you watch with Leta you'll see him fall behind early game from BO disadvantages. The opponent will usually control the map up to the mid game point. But once mid game hits you'll slowly start to see the map swing in Leta's favor. Early expansions or central control the opponent may have had start to crumble away, kinda like an overextended pawn structure. In chess terms, Leta's play is like a good Sicilian defense playing against an overeager white player: white takes early control of the board, only to see black's well positioned pieces slowly exert more and more pressure until white's positioning implodes.
Leta asserts his will in the mid to late game stages by consistently positioning his troops at the right position and at the right times. In this game vs. ForGG, you see the similar pattern of Leta games: the opponent takes the early advantage, Leta asserts pressure at the right time/place, the opponent falls. Note the drop from 15:00 for Leta(blue) as well so many other times where Leta sieges or drops just at the right time to maintain positional advantage and weaken ForGG.
And of course, there were his OSL matches against Sea. In contrasting the two players and their styles of play, you can really see Leta's tactical advantages in terms of positioning and mid to late game strategy. I encourage you to look up the games if you haven't: Batoo OSL Sea vs Leta.
I know I've mentioned all TvT games, but it's because in TvT where mid to late game strategy/positioning is most important. But he's strong against the other races as well; maybe a bit weak vs. Protoss, but so is everyone else. Leta's last ten stats by MU:
TvT: 10-1 TvZ: 7-3 TvP: 6-4
2.) Wraith Control
If Lomo started the TvZ wraith usage, Leta has evolved it into a more perfect option TvZ. In the above game, an Ace match of KTF and OGN, Leta vs Luxury, Leta rips through mutas, spore colonies, whatever, with his wraith control. He also backs up his wraiths with MnM, which seems to be relatively new for TvZ, and supposedly he did the same in a recent MST game. And Leta loves to go facport, using early game wraith harass to compensate for his usualy early game disadvantages.
That's all I have for Leta so far. The knock against him is that he's always been good proleague but has sucked in individual leagues. Now that he has broken past MST and OSL Ro36, it's time to keep a close eye on Leta as he attempts to challenge Flash for the number 1 Terran spot.
Note: if you watch Leta's games lately, you'll hear an occasional Lee Young Ho from the announcers. That's them comparing Leta's dominance to Flash's pretty much every Proleague game.
I like your midgame -> lategame analysis. It also occured to me that I am watching Leta play and think "oh man, he must be screwed by now", but he just keeps etching out little little bits of advantage and equalizes the playing field with that.
On December 26 2008 06:12 zulu_nation8 wrote: hes doing well but he needs to play jaedong, flash, stork, bisu, mind
yah this is true, though i'm fairly confident --albeit subjectively-- he can beat flash/mind right now. I think the "six dragons" are gonna be what Leta has to worry about the most, as well as Ensnare-Jaedong
On December 26 2008 06:12 zulu_nation8 wrote: hes doing well but he needs to play jaedong, flash, stork, bisu, mind
yah this is true, though i'm fairly confident --albeit subjectively-- he can beat flash/mind right now. I think the "six dragons" are gonna be what Leta has to worry about the most, as well as Ensnare-Jaedong
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flash almost played twice as many TvTs than leta and has a 69.49% chance I highly doubt it will be "easy"
On December 26 2008 06:12 zulu_nation8 wrote: hes doing well but he needs to play jaedong, flash, stork, bisu, mind
yah this is true, though i'm fairly confident --albeit subjectively-- he can beat flash/mind right now. I think the "six dragons" are gonna be what Leta has to worry about the most, as well as Ensnare-Jaedong
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flash almost played twice as many TvTs than leta and has a 69.49% chance I highly doubt it will be "easy"
same applies to mind.
yeah i took out the "easy". but i know this: mind is flash's bitch. and flash... is he really that good at TvT? The last memorable TvT he had in terms of opponent was ForGG.. that did not go well.
in my mind, in TvT, it goes like this: ForGG>Flash>Mind. and I think Leta can beat all three
Yes i'm watching with his progress with very big interest. Looks to me, after Luxury went KTF, team manager decided to make him main star of the team and big part of it works on his success. Edit: Oh, i forgot, thanks to the creator of this arcticle for very interesting information.
On December 26 2008 06:12 zulu_nation8 wrote: hes doing well but he needs to play jaedong, flash, stork, bisu, mind
yah this is true, though i'm fairly confident --albeit subjectively-- he can beat flash/mind right now. I think the "six dragons" are gonna be what Leta has to worry about the most, as well as Ensnare-Jaedong
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flash almost played twice as many TvTs than leta and has a 69.49% chance I highly doubt it will be "easy"
same applies to mind.
yeah i took out the "easy". but i know this: mind is flash's bitch. and flash... is he really that good at TvT? The last memorable TvT he had in terms of opponent was ForGG.. that did not go well.
in my mind, in TvT, it goes like this: ForGG>Flash>Mind. and I think Leta can beat all three
ForGG's TvT is not good. Sure he beat flash at an epic (but kinda failure) BO5, but at the same time Flash is known to underestimate his opponents and fuck up everything. And by your theory, Sea > ForGG, therefore Flash > ForGG. It doesn't work that way.
Im not saying Leta is hype, hell I think he will do really well. But under no circumstances is Flash an easy opponent. This is like saying Effort's ZvZ is 77% so he has a very good chance against JD.
Well observing a lot of Letas proleague games TvT he tends to go longer games and relies heavily map control. Someone should count average length of his games, I bet its near 20 min or more (at least TvT)
Nothing has changed for Leta since last season when he carried OGN, he can dominate the normal progamers yes, but the only significant progamer he has beaten so far has been forGG, which doesn't say too much. He is still losing to the S-class progamers more often than winning, but if he can break through that wall he can definitely be a potential terran emperor. Leta is constantly being compared to Flash because of their strong mechanics style, and it's the "boring" style that many Flash haters like to pick on, but lately Leta has been showing more creativity in his play, so props to him.
Not yet proven TvZ, and TvP, but you bring up important traits with his play like his wraithplay, and positioning TvT. His vulture micro is also notable.
Overall good read. Id rate Leta as top 3 terran right now, he needs more games against dragons and above average zergs to challenge Young Ho though.
Also remember that Leta didnt have the chance to play in GOM due to OGN not letting their players play in that tournament. One might speculate if he had done as good in the GOM tournament as the other tournaments, or if he would have been slaughtered due to the tournament being a dragonfest atm. Hopefully OGN lets their players play in GOM next season now that it's KeSPA sanctioned.
Leta is good , but top terrans are Flash and Mind and ForGG was for some time . He is becoming a newer version of sea i don't think that he will get far in the leagues if he meats a vs terran monster .
I think Leta has really strong TvT, but I was always under the impression that his TvP is fairly weak.
Also, doing well in Proleague and individual leagues are completely different things. Players typically prepare much harder for individual leagues, and there are a lot more factors involved than Proleague games.
And I agree with Zulu that Leta really needs to play/win against more S-class players for me to be convinced.
On December 26 2008 07:02 Dazed_Spy wrote: leta is a really strong terran...he aint gonna be, and def aint is, the next terran star.
Edit: What newb honestly thinks FORGG's tvt is not good? LOL?
ForGG's TvT is really not that amazing.
ForGG throws away way too many units in his games. This can typically be compensated by by his insane macro, but it hurts more in mirror match-ups, especially when maps get mined out.
Light vs fOrGG really showed what lacks in his TvT. He almost lost that game with a great adventage, due to losing his units carelessly, showing overall impatience and making stubborn attacks.
On December 26 2008 06:24 d_so wrote: yeah i took out the "easy". but i know this: mind is flash's bitch. and flash... is he really that good at TvT? The last memorable TvT he had in terms of opponent was ForGG.. that did not go well.
Honestly for like the last six months the only memorable games Flash has played are the ones he loses because all of his wins look the same (step 1 mine resources, step 2 roll opponent).
Also I think Leta is really good but he hasn't shown that he's not just another Sea - sure he beat Sea recently but aside from that the parallels are very similar (proleague monster, no problem qualifying for individuals)
Lastly, again I think Leta is good but you're really not helping your own credibility by saying "flash... is he really that good at TvT?" especially after pumping out a STATS-happy post suggesting Leta is really good (which for the last time, I also think he is).
I've been saying this since before summer. Leta has been the most underrated terran in the past few months, and that he has lived under the shadow of Lux and yarnc for too much. Finally he is getting the spotlight. Good for him.
Leta's consistency right now is definitely at an elite level, which is what makes him such a dominant proleague player. He simply does not lose often to players that he should beat. I will say that his consistency definitely impresses me and he's probably the best proleague player around right now (although i would definitely take the Leta -> Flash trade that's available in fantasy right now if I could).
I also agree that, after Flash, there's really no other Terran worth mentioning (maybe Mind. <3 Mind). However, I'm not ready to say he's anywhere near Flash's level until he starts beating elite players. If you look at his wins, he really doesn't have any upsets at all (and every elite player has upsets, or what were thought to be at the time, on their rise to glory).
To be fair, it's not his fault that he hasn't had any opportunities to prove himself. I haven't done the numbers on it, but I'd be willing to bet that out of the top 10 players in proleague right now, Leta has had the easiest "stength of schedule" by far. With starleagues revving up, he'll finally have a chance to show everyone he's not just a proleague ringer.
Stats are misleading; fOrGG has massively improved his TvT. Let's look at his last six months, which is the best indicator of a player's overall, but current, strength. vT 15-7 (68%)
I like Leta, and he is very good, but the only thing I'm worried about is when he faces good protosses and zergs. I mean the amount of TvTs he's played in compared to his other MUs is insane.
Leta is super-tight in long games, I believe he will take his PL prowess and translate it to individual scores with ease. And he deserves a spot on the Power Rank!
On December 26 2008 08:41 Makhno wrote: Leta is super-tight in long games, I believe he will take his PL prowess and translate it to individual scores with ease. And he deserves a spot on the Power Rank!
He is one of those players for me, like a jaedong,sea,fbh,flash,bisu,free,effort that does a lot of teeny tiny little moves that are so subtle yet insightfully.
I think leta is top 3-4 terran and has been since august.
Theres a difference between tvt being "not good" and being "above average". Above average is most certainly good, or everyone's tvt must be disgustingly poor. Lol
On December 26 2008 08:49 deathgod6 wrote: Aside from the TvP, I think FBH is a bit better than Leta. Having said that, Leta is a really strong player and his wraith play was superb.
Actually, there's no indication that Leta has better TvP than FBH right now. FBH beats mediocre tosses, and get owned by top tosses. Leta beats mediocre tosses, and get owned by top tosses. FBH only looks worse because there was a time when he couldn't beat a toss at all.
On December 26 2008 08:49 deathgod6 wrote: Aside from the TvP, I think FBH is a bit better than Leta. Having said that, Leta is a really strong player and his wraith play was superb.
Actually, there's no indication that Leta has better TvP than FBH right now. FBH beats mediocre tosses, and get owned by top tosses. Leta beats mediocre tosses, and get owned by top tosses. FBH only looks worse because there was a time when he couldn't beat a toss at all.
Both Best and Jangbi absolutely schooled Leta.
Yeah...Jangbi did. Best [who is 1-1 against Leta, and Kal, who is 0-2 against leta] did not. Maybe you should actually watch his fucking games rather than making shit up. Leta's tvp is very strong.
On December 26 2008 08:36 FrozenArbiter wrote: It annoys me when people talk about wraiths as being "new" TvZ when it's such a super super super old school opening
Like... it's been around for about as long as there have been replays (or longer).
EDIT: Tho this makes me sound like I don't appreciate this thread, which is totally wrong - great OP
THANK YOU.
Seriously, TheMarine used to do dual port wraiths on LT every single game.
Leta is good, theres no doubt about it but hes not number one. Sure hes got some monster wins in proleauge and hes qualified for both leauges, but so has Flash/Mind so untill he takes out some more s class progamers then he's still no.2 btw Flash vs Leta rep, who will win? if i had to rank terran players it'd go 1. Flash 2. Mind/Leta 4. firebathero 5. Sea 6. fOrGG
On December 26 2008 12:13 Scaramanga wrote: Leta is good, theres no doubt about it but hes not number one. Sure hes got some monster wins in proleauge and hes qualified for both leauges, but so has Flash/Mind so untill he takes out some more s class progamers then he's still no.2 btw Flash vs Leta rep, who will win? if i had to rank terran players it'd go 1. Flash 2. Mind/Leta 4. firebathero 5. Sea 6. fOrGG
Do not even compare Leta to Mind. Mind is S-class baller.
On December 26 2008 08:49 deathgod6 wrote: Aside from the TvP, I think FBH is a bit better than Leta. Having said that, Leta is a really strong player and his wraith play was superb.
Actually, there's no indication that Leta has better TvP than FBH right now. FBH beats mediocre tosses, and get owned by top tosses. Leta beats mediocre tosses, and get owned by top tosses. FBH only looks worse because there was a time when he couldn't beat a toss at all.
Both Best and Jangbi absolutely schooled Leta.
Yeah...Jangbi did. Best [who is 1-1 against Leta, and Kal, who is 0-2 against leta] did not. Maybe you should actually watch his fucking games rather than making shit up. Leta's tvp is very strong.
Kind of ironic, since I wouldn't have commented if I hadn't caught both the Jangbi and the Best game.
I did not watch the Best game where Leta won, but I checked and it was last proleague season, back when Best's PvT was not even close to being the juggernaut it is now. As for Kal, well, FBH also beat Kal, and a lot more recently too. So I don't see the point in mentioning him in the first place. Or do you want to bring in FBH's old TvP into discussion, in which case I would agree to be absolutely horrendous.
On December 26 2008 08:49 deathgod6 wrote: Aside from the TvP, I think FBH is a bit better than Leta. Having said that, Leta is a really strong player and his wraith play was superb.
Actually, there's no indication that Leta has better TvP than FBH right now. FBH beats mediocre tosses, and get owned by top tosses. Leta beats mediocre tosses, and get owned by top tosses. FBH only looks worse because there was a time when he couldn't beat a toss at all.
Both Best and Jangbi absolutely schooled Leta.
Yeah...Jangbi did. Best [who is 1-1 against Leta, and Kal, who is 0-2 against leta] did not. Maybe you should actually watch his fucking games rather than making shit up. Leta's tvp is very strong.
Did you not watch their most recent game? Best destroyed Leta.
Theres a difference between tvt being "not good" and being "above average". Above average is most certainly good, or everyone's tvt must be disgustingly poor. Lol
newb
above average isnt certainly good hey don't pull out of the discussion yet, we wanna hear about how awesome ForGG's tvt is
Leta vs hero made me think exactly the same thing. He is at a severe disadvantage, but good timing, macro, and a bit of pure balls quickly puts him at an advantage that he almost always drives home.
On December 26 2008 08:49 deathgod6 wrote: Aside from the TvP, I think FBH is a bit better than Leta. Having said that, Leta is a really strong player and his wraith play was superb.
Actually, there's no indication that Leta has better TvP than FBH right now. FBH beats mediocre tosses, and get owned by top tosses. Leta beats mediocre tosses, and get owned by top tosses. FBH only looks worse because there was a time when he couldn't beat a toss at all.
Both Best and Jangbi absolutely schooled Leta.
Yeah...Jangbi did. Best [who is 1-1 against Leta, and Kal, who is 0-2 against leta] did not. Maybe you should actually watch his fucking games rather than making shit up. Leta's tvp is very strong.
Did you not watch their most recent game? Best destroyed Leta.
he's 1-1 against him so he doesnt get schooled my top protoss players though
On December 26 2008 08:49 deathgod6 wrote: Aside from the TvP, I think FBH is a bit better than Leta. Having said that, Leta is a really strong player and his wraith play was superb.
Actually, there's no indication that Leta has better TvP than FBH right now. FBH beats mediocre tosses, and get owned by top tosses. Leta beats mediocre tosses, and get owned by top tosses. FBH only looks worse because there was a time when he couldn't beat a toss at all.
Both Best and Jangbi absolutely schooled Leta.
Yeah...Jangbi did. Best [who is 1-1 against Leta, and Kal, who is 0-2 against leta] did not. Maybe you should actually watch his fucking games rather than making shit up. Leta's tvp is very strong.
Did you not watch their most recent game? Best destroyed Leta.
he's 1-1 against him so he doesnt get schooled my top protoss players though
Yeah, but overall stats are misleading, his game against Jangbi pretty much was a clinic.
On December 26 2008 13:46 GTR-2-Go wrote: that's just one game
jangbi's pvt is pretty much top level as well
Well, I think that is part of his point though. When Flash was starting to become the absolute baller he is today, he was consistently taking down S-Class toss players (well, pretty much all players) (coughstorkcough) CONSISTENTLY, which Leta just hasn't done yet. I think it's really too early to tell what direction leta is going to take (as a terran player, I hope he does start dominating [everyone but flash], but we'll see). Once he starts taking down s-class players consistently, we'll start debating about who the best terran player is now.
the point that the post I quoted was trying to make, is that Leta's tvp is not top level and cant compete with top level pvt's. Which is wrong. Leta already has, and Leta has already won. He's also lost in close fashion, one sided fashion, etc. Like most really good players, he can beat the majority of the best, but he can also lose to them. Leta is not a god, he is fantastic in all match ups, but hes not a god. He can get his ass handed to him some days, just like everyone save #1 on the PR can. And has, recently.
Leta's TvZ is his suspect matchup, not his TvP. His pushes are the weakest part of his TvP but he excels at every other part of the matchup. He plays best when dropships are involved, so it makes sense that his strength in each matchup would be TvT then TvP then TvZ.
Yeah I agree...if any of Leta's match ups are not tested its his tvz. With few exceptions, his tvz career has been against weak players, or involved some kind of two port wraiths. I don't think its bad by any means, but its untested. Hell, by the simple fact that he has Yarnc, and Luxury to practice with, for large sections of his career, gives a lot of legitimacy to the idea that, while his tvz has not been tested thoroughly, it is probably in decent shape. None the less.
On December 26 2008 14:30 Dazed_Spy wrote: check out leta vs kal on blue storm, or leta vs best on othello, very good games.
leta vs kal doesnt count blue storm is just a very bad pvt map and in the game kal almost won too
What the fuck are you talking about? Of course the game counts. Blue Storm is an annoying map for Protoss, its not heavily imbalanced, its not terrible. The game was in a high pressure situation, both players played really well, Kal lost. End.
On December 26 2008 14:30 Dazed_Spy wrote: check out leta vs kal on blue storm, or leta vs best on othello, very good games.
leta vs kal doesnt count blue storm is just a very bad pvt map and in the game kal almost won too
What the fuck are you talking about? Of course the game counts. Blue Storm is an annoying map for Protoss, its not heavily imbalanced, its not terrible. The game was in a high pressure situation, both players played really well, Kal lost. End.
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT RETARD?
yeah its not fun when someone blows up at you for disagreeing is it?
blue storm is bad for terran because of the pathing and if you cant secure the middle, its pretty much over, but if u can split the map, then you will do fine
and leta has been good for months now and ogn even used him as an ace in a crucial game last season
its just that recently hes elevated his game even higher
On December 26 2008 14:30 Dazed_Spy wrote: check out leta vs kal on blue storm, or leta vs best on othello, very good games.
leta vs kal doesnt count blue storm is just a very bad pvt map and in the game kal almost won too
What the fuck are you talking about? Of course the game counts. Blue Storm is an annoying map for Protoss, its not heavily imbalanced, its not terrible. The game was in a high pressure situation, both players played really well, Kal lost. End.
Kal is probably the absolute most inconsistent dragon out there
He suffers from the Kingdom Syndrome like no other protoss players
On December 26 2008 14:30 Dazed_Spy wrote: check out leta vs kal on blue storm, or leta vs best on othello, very good games.
leta vs kal doesnt count blue storm is just a very bad pvt map and in the game kal almost won too
What the fuck are you talking about? Of course the game counts. Blue Storm is an annoying map for Protoss, its not heavily imbalanced, its not terrible. The game was in a high pressure situation, both players played really well, Kal lost. End.
I just meant its not the best game to show leta's tvp because blue storm is literally considered to be the easiest map to play tvp on. If you block the early game cheese once you control the center its really hard to lose. You yourself said the map is annoying for protoss. I agree its a fun game to watch but its a bad example of leta's tvp. Its like saying look how good stork is at pvt and recommend a game on katrina.
On December 26 2008 14:30 Dazed_Spy wrote: check out leta vs kal on blue storm, or leta vs best on othello, very good games.
leta vs kal doesnt count blue storm is just a very bad pvt map and in the game kal almost won too
What the fuck are you talking about? Of course the game counts. Blue Storm is an annoying map for Protoss, its not heavily imbalanced, its not terrible. The game was in a high pressure situation, both players played really well, Kal lost. End.
I just meant its not the best game to show leta's tvp because blue storm is literally considered to be the easiest map to play tvp on. If you block the early game cheese once you control the center its really hard to lose. You yourself said the map is annoying for protoss. I agree its a fun game to watch but its a bad example of leta's tvp. Its like saying look how good stork is at pvt and recommend a game on katrina.
No actually, its nothing like showing a game from a completely imbalanced map. Blue storm had its share of imbalances for every match up, elements that helped one race over the other. Like every other map on Starcraft. Every map has some cries of imbalance, and the majority do have it. The majority trend one race over the other, significantly or otherwise. At the end of the day, Blue Storm is not remembered as a really hard pvt map, its known as a standard, entertaining macro map that was relatively balanced. Thats why it lasted so many seasons. Protoss may not be in the best position against Terran, but its not the equivalent of Katrina or Medusa.
Either way, when Kal is not playing like ass [and he def wasnt in that game] no terran with bad tvp would have been able to take Kal down on Blue Storm. No terran with bad tvp would have even been able to split the map against Kal. Leta did that. I was not trying to show his tvp was fantastic, I was showing that it was good and it was proven, on maps that were/are frequently played. On maps with similar balance that Leta can hope for in the future.
On December 26 2008 14:07 Dazed_Spy wrote: the point that the post I quoted was trying to make, is that Leta's tvp is not top level and cant compete with top level pvt's. Which is wrong. Leta already has, and Leta has already won. He's also lost in close fashion, one sided fashion, etc. Like most really good players, he can beat the majority of the best, but he can also lose to them. Leta is not a god, he is fantastic in all match ups, but hes not a god. He can get his ass handed to him some days, just like everyone save #1 on the PR can. And has, recently.
Didn't you just describe FBH's current TvP? That's what I was saying in the first place, that Leta has shown as much TvP skills as FBH. They're about the same in my book as of right now.
You apparently took offense to that, but I still don't see any argument from you Leta should be considered a higher level than firebathero right now in the MU. This is a very simple thing, just compare two player, not whether they're "good", "average", "s-class", or whatever. Just straight-up comparison.
On December 26 2008 08:36 FrozenArbiter wrote: It annoys me when people talk about wraiths as being "new" TvZ when it's such a super super super old school opening
Like... it's been around for about as long as there have been replays (or longer).
EDIT: Tho this makes me sound like I don't appreciate this thread, which is totally wrong - great OP
yeah i'll admit i don't have much knowledge on starcraft from before 2008. when people, including the announcers, started giving mad props to lomo for his wraith play, i thought it was something brand new.
On December 26 2008 14:07 Dazed_Spy wrote: the point that the post I quoted was trying to make, is that Leta's tvp is not top level and cant compete with top level pvt's. Which is wrong. Leta already has, and Leta has already won. He's also lost in close fashion, one sided fashion, etc. Like most really good players, he can beat the majority of the best, but he can also lose to them. Leta is not a god, he is fantastic in all match ups, but hes not a god. He can get his ass handed to him some days, just like everyone save #1 on the PR can. And has, recently.
In my oppinion, Leta's pushes are not that bad TvP. I think he plays TvP the same way he is playing TvT, starting out with a port opening for harass, then trying to maintain superior map position into end game. It all falls apart, however, when he gets recalled and has to reposition his army. I think he is somewhat lacking practise to handle a really strong recall-happy player like Best, who loves his fast arbiters (like every game).
Sea and Mind are defintely the 2nd best terrans around. Sea's TvZ is a bit better most noticeably his overall late game unit control, and Minds TvP might be a smidgen better..not really notably, but Mind doesnt get sexually molested by Stork so yea...and he has won a MSL title, but realistically they are the proven Terran Masters who excel highly in all matchups. FBH is on par with them or slighly better in TvZ and TvT(really good), but considerably worse in TvP.
sounds like you never heard of flash who has been the best terran for over a year
and leta is absolutely tearing it up in proleague
sea is a solid player, hes good but hes not the best
mind is kinda sloppy. his macro is good and his micro is decent. his game sense is top notch. however, his multitasking seriously needs improvement. and its been a while since he won that msl. hes been a solid player for fox but not exactly beating opponents left and right
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JangBi Loss 
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Luxury Win 
