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Jaeden
Profile Joined September 2008
Romania1489 Posts
November 02 2008 19:07 GMT
#161
On November 03 2008 04:05 liger13 wrote:
eVEYTIME you use MBS, a kitten dies


I hope it`s not that kitten that plays protoss :s..oh, and btw, GREAT article !
Boxer: " Lee Jae Dong is the best player. He`s all about the micro; he`s the player which has the most amazing control"
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
November 02 2008 19:10 GMT
#162
Someone voted No. Blasphemy.
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Murlox
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France1699 Posts
November 02 2008 19:12 GMT
#163
On November 03 2008 03:28 IzzyCraft wrote:
Shame you didn't include the protoss concept keyboard for sc2
[image loading]



Now put stalker blink on "G", and they also can gosu micro with that.
Resistance ain't futile
myIRE
Profile Joined November 2008
Belgium229 Posts
November 02 2008 19:13 GMT
#164
On November 03 2008 03:39 0xDEADBEEF wrote:
What Nony wrote here is in contrast to what Artosis wrote in a somewhat recent thread (about the ability to follow the most solid standard build orders and great mechanics being the most important thing).
Also, progamers often gamble with BOs, that is definitely true, we see some really crazy openings sometimes which rarely make sense, and it's all because they think they can get away with it (because they hope the opponent doesn't think they'd do that particular BO). It's basically a blind guess, although TL users will call this amazing psychological tricks.
TL users might confuse BO gambling with having ingenious strategy (but only if a progamer is doing it).
But really, strategy is incredibly shallow in SC. Tactics, on the other hand, is *theoretically* complex in SC, but in practice it's also quite shallow (but still a lot deeper than strategy) since the high speed forces the players to only do the absolutely most important tasks and ignore a lot of other tasks which *could* give them an advantage *if* they had additional time for them, but since they do not, they are ignored in favor of the more important tasks. Unfortunately though, the most important tasks are rather shallow ("clicky macro" (I like that term) and all related stuff ... all part of mechanics, which the spectators also don't see (another negative aspect)).
And these discussions are always running into a dead end anyway since players will only listen to who is the most skilled player at this very moment. Which is the reason why gameplay discussion on TL is so goddamn awful - players don't use common sense, don't use intelligence, don't use good arguments to discuss gameplay - they just look at how skilled the player who's arguing is at this very moment, not realizing that a lot of gameplay discussion is unrelated to skill (best example: the Blizzard employees, they're all SC noobs, but know a shit ton more about gameplay than any wannabe here from TL)



EXACTLY

Freedom is the most contageous virus known to men.
hubfub
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Australia352 Posts
November 02 2008 19:21 GMT
#165
On November 03 2008 04:12 Murlox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2008 03:28 IzzyCraft wrote:
Shame you didn't include the protoss concept keyboard for sc2
[image loading]



Now put stalker blink on "G", and they also can gosu micro with that.



hahahaha
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8100 Posts
November 02 2008 19:27 GMT
#166
I used to love intotheWow cuz he is argentinian, now I love him cuz he says with humour what I've been thinking since the day I saw the first presentation of SC2.

17/5
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6642 Posts
November 02 2008 19:32 GMT
#167
On November 03 2008 03:28 IzzyCraft wrote:
Shame you didn't include the protoss concept keyboard for sc2
[image loading]

LOL

Nice article, I agree completely, MBS will ruin SC2!!
The road to hell is paved with good intentions | aka Probert[PaiN] @ iccup / godlikeparagon @ twitch | my BW stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/jello_biafra
ilovehnk
Profile Joined October 2008
475 Posts
November 02 2008 19:34 GMT
#168
On November 03 2008 03:28 IzzyCraft wrote:
Shame you didn't include the protoss concept keyboard for sc2
[image loading]


lol what's G for..
Hikou Shinketsushuu
Ziph
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands970 Posts
November 02 2008 19:35 GMT
#169
On November 03 2008 04:34 ilovehnk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2008 03:28 IzzyCraft wrote:
Shame you didn't include the protoss concept keyboard for sc2
[image loading]


lol what's G for..

r you serious ?
Starcraft 2 - Beta
Ki_Do
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Korea (South)981 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-02 19:40:18
November 02 2008 19:38 GMT
#170
@DeadBeef
i don believe u werent baned cause tl staff thinks ur right, when most of the time, even tl staff are complaining about lack of macro in sc2, what u seem to love
but if thats the problem, if u want ur precious sc2 to have zero macromanagement u can stick with it, brood war proscene wont die to a n00b game
I've got a point, and i'm ready to kill or die for it.
FreeDoM[YA]
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Canada855 Posts
November 02 2008 19:40 GMT
#171
Good article and good sense of humour
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6642 Posts
November 02 2008 19:49 GMT
#172
On November 03 2008 04:34 ilovehnk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2008 03:28 IzzyCraft wrote:
Shame you didn't include the protoss concept keyboard for sc2
[image loading]


lol what's G for..

"gg"
The road to hell is paved with good intentions | aka Probert[PaiN] @ iccup / godlikeparagon @ twitch | my BW stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/jello_biafra
NotJumperer
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States1371 Posts
November 02 2008 20:03 GMT
#173
--- Nuked ---
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
November 02 2008 20:22 GMT
#174
rofl pics were awesome ^^
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
November 02 2008 20:31 GMT
#175
awesome article... if they noobify SC2 i will cry.

i know this is a strange example.. but the whole reason I got into Starcraft was because super smash brothers brawl came out. I played super smash brothers melee really competitively and it was (still is) awesome. Brawl basically ruined the series by removing almost every technique that made the game difficult into something that is automatically done for you or just not in the game, and now the tournament scene for the game is stagnating and dying. I hope they don't do the same to SC2...

I just do not understand the logic of making a game easier to play to attract noobs... Giving everyone OOV macro does not really make the game more fun for a noob, all it does is limit the depth of the game as all of the mechanical techniques will be mastered within months of release.

shuriken93
Profile Joined September 2008
United States13 Posts
November 02 2008 20:40 GMT
#176
This thread is amazing
jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
November 02 2008 20:48 GMT
#177
WHO WAS THE ONE GUY WHO VOTED NO
DanceCommander
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1808 Posts
November 02 2008 20:50 GMT
#178
who the fuck voted no
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8100 Posts
November 02 2008 20:56 GMT
#179

who the fuck voted no

I think is time to vote
[image loading]

Poll: Who the fuck voted no
(Vote): IntoTheWow himself cuz everybody like paradoxes
(Vote): Some random n00b
(Vote): An offended Blizzard staff member
(Vote): WC8 in a new desperate attempt to ruin TL
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Ki_Do
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Korea (South)981 Posts
November 02 2008 20:58 GMT
#180
obviously, some random noob, that think he knows anything about evolution/gameplay/mechanics
I've got a point, and i'm ready to kill or die for it.
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