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lilpwnyIII
Profile Joined October 2008
United States23 Posts
November 02 2008 21:22 GMT
#181
blizzard became a great company by revolutionizing gameplay not by catering to geeks who think that having 300+ apm is an epic achievement
wat quote?
Ki_Do
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Korea (South)981 Posts
November 02 2008 21:26 GMT
#182
didnt u read the news?
today geeks are tomorrow world leaders
I've got a point, and i'm ready to kill or die for it.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
November 02 2008 21:28 GMT
#183
On November 03 2008 02:44 Boblion wrote:
I totally agree with you nony about the "physical levels"
About my IQ comments, i guess this isnt the accurate word. I wanted to say that the oldschool players used to be really smart and creative.

That's because the game was mostly unexplored then, thus giving much greater value to creativity/"talent".

Furthermore, the talent pool used to be bigger (for foreigners) AND there was simply more room for people to actually showcase their creativity, as while someone today might be really creative, some openings are just inferior etc.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28908 Posts
November 02 2008 21:32 GMT
#184
hahahahahahaha
Moderator
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-02 21:42:47
November 02 2008 21:33 GMT
#185
On November 03 2008 03:46 0xDEADBEEF wrote:
It's not crap (it's the Truth™) and most care since these discussions always grow fairly long. Plus, I still haven't been banned yet although I'm the only one here constantly criticizing SC1 (which is actually blasphemy on this site). Which is really kind of amazing, because trolls are banned instantly here, and there are a lot of banned users.
It almost makes me think that the mods are actually smart enough to realize that a lot of what I write is true. Almost... I've kinda lost hope that there's someone else here other than delusional fanbois who think that everything about SC1 is amazing, even its obvious flaws.

You are not banned because you don't troll, and I'm not gonna ban someone just because he thinks differently from me.

I find some of your comments in this thread a bit offensive tho, obviously not banworthy but meh -_-

Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
lilpwnyIII
Profile Joined October 2008
United States23 Posts
November 02 2008 21:36 GMT
#186
if u hate mbs so much then y don't u just don't use MBS when u play sc2? not that hard

you say that ur opponent will have an advantage because they will have mbs but they shouldnt suffer just because you like having a dumbed down UI. If MBS is meant for the casual player than im sure a "pro" not using mbs will be able to handily defeat the casual player.

if u hate auto mine then y don't u just mine the old way? not that hard

just because you dislike having non a shit-tastic user interface doesn't mean the rest of the population should suffer for it

what makes u think that having a non-shit user interface will make sc2 too easy to play? I think all of you are underestimating human creativity. Competitive SC became popular due to game balance and creative plays, not because it's exciting to watch oov macro out 2 extra tanks than his opponent
wat quote?
Krohm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1857 Posts
November 02 2008 21:37 GMT
#187
That poll is so rigged, I voted No. But it still only says 1 vote for no.

Why did I vote no? I view MBS as an advancement in gaming. SC is archaic, and SC2 is the new generation. I really don't think MBS is going to have such a devastating impact like most of you think.

That's just my personal opinion.

I also love micro, and I love the fact games are now going to be much more micro intensive.
Not bad for a cat toy.
lilpwnyIII
Profile Joined October 2008
United States23 Posts
November 02 2008 21:38 GMT
#188
only reason wc3 boring as fuck to watch are cuz units move too slow, they are too few in number, have too much hp, and "heroes"
wat quote?
Ki_Do
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Korea (South)981 Posts
November 02 2008 21:39 GMT
#189
Ask Idra what his progamers fellows in 한 군 think about sc2 =)
I've got a point, and i'm ready to kill or die for it.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
November 02 2008 21:44 GMT
#190
On November 03 2008 06:36 lilpwnyIII wrote:
if u hate mbs so much then y don't u just don't use MBS when u play sc2? not that hard

you say that ur opponent will have an advantage because they will have mbs but they shouldnt suffer just because you like having a dumbed down UI. If MBS is meant for the casual player than im sure a "pro" not using mbs will be able to handily defeat the casual player.

if u hate auto mine then y don't u just mine the old way? not that hard

just because you dislike having non a shit-tastic user interface doesn't mean the rest of the population should suffer for it

what makes u think that having a non-shit user interface will make sc2 too easy to play? I think all of you are underestimating human creativity. Competitive SC became popular due to game balance and creative plays, not because it's exciting to watch oov macro out 2 extra tanks than his opponent

Because you play to win, and playing to win would involve using the interface to its fullest extent?

So no, if we think MBS will make the game worse we can't "just ignore it".
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
pubbanana
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3063 Posts
November 02 2008 21:44 GMT
#191
Posting to say it's pathetic how people play like they're being victimized for supporting MBS :D
Wachet, stehet im Glauben, seid männlich und seid stark.
Juanpe
Profile Joined May 2008
Uruguay283 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-02 21:47:55
November 02 2008 21:45 GMT
#192
On November 03 2008 06:37 Krohm wrote:
That poll is so rigged, I voted No. But it still only says 1 vote for no.

Why did I vote no? I view MBS as an advancement in gaming. SC is archaic, and SC2 is the new generation. I really don't think MBS is going to have such a devastating impact like most of you think.

That's just my personal opinion.

I also love micro, and I love the fact games are now going to be much more micro intensive.


Units now autosurround the enemy, take automatically the shortest pathes to engage the enemy in battle, etc etc... no, it isn´t even more Micro intensive now...

But I agree with the "SC2 is the new generation" you know, but men, this automining/autosurrounding/auto-taking-the smartest-choices-in-a-battle thing etc etc etc is just too much... TOO MUCH... I mean, at the end of this, what the fuck are we going to end doing by ourselfs??

Edit: Btw i´m a Marine now, watch out.
C+ rank Terran training harder every day to be like ChinaTTTT :D~ Lee Jae Dong phan o(∩_∩)o <3 <3 <3
cava
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States1035 Posts
November 02 2008 21:46 GMT
#193
On November 03 2008 06:37 Krohm wrote:
That poll is so rigged, I voted No. But it still only says 1 vote for no.

Why did I vote no? I view MBS as an advancement in gaming. SC is archaic, and SC2 is the new generation. I really don't think MBS is going to have such a devastating impact like most of you think.

That's just my personal opinion.

I also love micro, and I love the fact games are now going to be much more micro intensive.


I also voted no, rigged
cava!
lilpwnyIII
Profile Joined October 2008
United States23 Posts
November 02 2008 21:46 GMT
#194
macro boring, micro exciting
wat quote?
Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
November 02 2008 21:50 GMT
#195
I've been thinking, maybe MBS and all the rest of the noob features should be in single player only. There's actually a lot of people who will buy this game for the single player only, possibly even the majority of their sales. putting in MBS/automine there would keep those people happy and boost the review scores, while still keeping the "real" game untouched.
Can't believe I'm still here playing this same game
iwinnar
Profile Joined November 2008
1 Post
November 02 2008 21:50 GMT
#196
On November 03 2008 06:26 Ki_Do wrote:
didnt u read the news?
today geeks are tomorrow world leaders


i hope ur joking but knowing how much u love SC u are probably serious. the geeks that become world leaders are the ones that study a lot in school and play games on the side, not the ones that practice SC 8 hours a day.
Juanpe
Profile Joined May 2008
Uruguay283 Posts
November 02 2008 21:50 GMT
#197
On November 03 2008 06:46 lilpwnyIII wrote:
macro boring, micro exciting


Smartcasting, unlimited unit selection, autosurrounding, etc etc is micro exciting?
C+ rank Terran training harder every day to be like ChinaTTTT :D~ Lee Jae Dong phan o(∩_∩)o <3 <3 <3
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
November 02 2008 21:58 GMT
#198
On November 03 2008 06:50 iwinnar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2008 06:26 Ki_Do wrote:
didnt u read the news?
today geeks are tomorrow world leaders


i hope ur joking but knowing how much u love SC u are probably serious. the geeks that become world leaders are the ones that study a lot in school and play games on the side, not the ones that practice SC 8 hours a day.

I don't know how much Jianfei practices, but it sound like hes smart as hell.
[SECRET FONT] "Dragoon bunker"
lilpwnyIII
Profile Joined October 2008
United States23 Posts
November 02 2008 21:59 GMT
#199
On November 03 2008 06:50 Juanpe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2008 06:46 lilpwnyIII wrote:
macro boring, micro exciting


Smartcasting, unlimited unit selection, autosurrounding, etc etc is micro exciting?



HUMAN PLAYERS will always invent new ways to outplay their opponents is it that hard to understand
wat quote?
Ki_Do
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Korea (South)981 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-02 22:07:39
November 02 2008 22:04 GMT
#200
On November 03 2008 06:50 iwinnar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2008 06:26 Ki_Do wrote:
didnt u read the news?
today geeks are tomorrow world leaders


i hope ur joking but knowing how much u love SC u are probably serious. the geeks that become world leaders are the ones that study a lot in school and play games on the side, not the ones that practice SC 8 hours a day.

i cant play sc 8 hours a day anymore,
i do physics at university, split my time even there at posting here and studying.

I've got a point, and i'm ready to kill or die for it.
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