[P] F16 Fighter versus Mutalisk - Page 3

On April 18 2008 08:24 jkillashark wrote:
The muta must fly until the F-16 is out of gas. F-16 can only engage when its target is moving WITH the F-16. Thus, mutalisk wins. Who says that the infantry U-238 URANIUM shells aren't stronger than the A-A missiles from an F-16. Remember the year is like 12345 AD.

On April 18 2008 07:35 MoltkeWarding wrote:
Completely wrong. A mutalisk's primary attack is so weak that it takes five hits to kill an unarmed terran civilian. Its defenses are so weak that it can be brought down by depleted uranium shells, the same as those used by the US army. I'd like to see anyone bring down a F-16 with infantry weapons.

In a verses match we take evidence, not conjecture into account. We cannot assume that wraiths are more powerful than F-16s merely because they exist several hundred years into the future. The only admissible evidence is what is canonical: primary source being the game, and secondly any fiction.

Thus far we have seen Terran technology to be a mixed bag; while using some futuristic technology such as cloaking, it is also incredibly backward in many ways (the vertically shaped, double-barrelled, short-barrelled siege tank for instance, is a poor pre-WW2 armour design which could easily be outgunned by a Panther or T-34-85.

All evidence suggests that the mutalisk is incapable of out-fighting a 4th generation fighter, when it is outranged by infantry and has a much more difficult time doing damage to a supply depot, for instance, than a F-16 would in a ground attack role.

On April 18 2008 07:02 CTStalker wrote:
wraiths have longer range than mutas.

i forget who it was, but there was a sick game a month or so back where tvz on bluestorm terran went vults into 2(?) port wraiths to hold off the initial muta harrass. was siiiick

On April 18 2008 10:46 Newbistic wrote:


Hmm... Totally wrong

How Starcraft units play out is obviously based not on realism but on game balance. However, since you are taking "evidence" (which can incidentally be twisted oh so many ways by looking at different unit relationships), I will argue on your grounds.

First of all, according to Blizz, the Marine rifle is much more powerful than your average modern-day rifle. They use Gauss technology, which presumably allows the high-density U-238 bullets to travel faster and thus have better penetration than modern rifles. So, okay, if a Mutalisk can be brought down by 20+ bursts of a super high-powered assault rifle that's fine- I'm pretty sure an F-16, if you are able to hit it with even half as many bursts, will go down in a fireball. A mutalisk's structural integrity is still very good.

Second of all, the Mutalisk's attack is not "weak." In the Starcraft world, it takes 5 hits for a mutalisk to take out an unarmed "but no proof for being unarmored" civilian. Similarly, it takes 7 hits from the aforementioned high-powered gauss rifle to take down a civilian (yes, that makes perfect sense -_-). So a mutalisk's firepower is at least more potent than several high-velocity U-238 rounds.

Thirdly, there is the question of maneuverability. A mutalisk can, never mind turn on a dime, turn on a PIXEL without the loss of velocity. F-16's do not even have vector thrust. Even if its speed is very slow, say 300 mph (not too unreasonable based on the FMV's), in a dogfight maneuverability is key. Most of the new generation fighters have lower maximum speeds than the previous generation (F-18 compared to F-14, F-22 compared to F-15, and so on), but better maneuverability. In this aspect the Mutalisk can dodge missiles and out turn the F-16 every time.

Lastly, there is the structural integrity of the F-16. Based on "evidence," a mutalisk can survive 13 dual-missile volleys, or 13 missile turret missiles (which don't really count, its since the modern equivalent would be like the Patriot missile system). A wraith, incidentally, can survive 6. An F-16 can survive... one? At most? And based on more "evidence," all starcraft units have perfect aim. So that means the F-16 can survive at most, 3 hits from a mutalisk, provided that they do not hit critical areas such as the cockpit.

Therefore, Mutalisk > F16.

I have too much time on my hands.

On April 18 2008 11:07 GoogleIt wrote:
i really hope F-16 owns mutalisks. just because if the mutalisks starts attacking humans i really hope our airforce can handle this

On April 18 2008 04:57 LonelyMargarita wrote:


Sure it can. F-15s were modified to shoot down satellites. Adapting it to an F-16 would probably be trivial.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/24/ASAT_missile_launch.jpg

On April 18 2008 11:14 FragKrag wrote:
F16 has missiles. Yeah, hf shooting me you fucking nub muta.