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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
February 25 2008 17:04 GMT
#261
In order to think the games were semi serious you would have had to look past an awful lot of indicators that spoke to the contrary.
rpf
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2705 Posts
February 25 2008 17:25 GMT
#262
That's why I got confused. What I expected was not what I saw, hence my comments after the games. Now I get what the point was.
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund Freud
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10342 Posts
February 25 2008 17:39 GMT
#263
To anyone else who hasn't seen it - please see the Korean BNet Attack for reference. Direct link with English subtitles: http://vods.r1.cx/080131 STAR B.Net Attack 8 - English Subs by FConnectionUK.zip
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
February 25 2008 17:42 GMT
#264
On February 26 2008 01:17 lake wrote:
You could announce on the forums. There's a million alternatives but you're pretty set on the way things are so lets both pretend there aren't. Why do you have to pick a player from a bunch of spamming retards in the first place eludes me as well. LOL THIS GUYS NAME IS NIGGERBALLS, GAME HIM ASAP.

Second 1 good player vs 1 baddish player who wants to be good is not the same as liquibition or replays that are all over the place no matter what form it's presented in

Seriously youre so adamant about the way you want it you aren't even maknig sense when refuting my suggestions. The mere fact that you have to sit here and refute suggestions on improving the show that you asked for is telling enough about how receptive you are to criticism.

uh, nobody is saying TL attack is trying to be the same as liquibition, that's stupid

it's a fun event where people dick around in the game, where the community can participate and where we can be relaxed and joke around

all the stuff you are asking for is essentially "make it liquibition2" which is a dumb suggestion because it's a it's not the point of TL attack to be a high level showmatch
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lake
Profile Joined September 2007
Canada150 Posts
February 25 2008 18:09 GMT
#265
Where did I say make it a high level show match. Chill is the one who brought that shit up

What part of a low skilled player getting the chance to play a high skilled player who isn't going play like a fucking retard (incontrol) who can also contribute to the commentating on the game by answering the commentators questions and sharing in some part of the commenting since you know they are the pro. In some set up that isn't just 2 people vent hacking against eachother both doing their best to make the game as horrible as humanly possible as even the commentators themselves urge the players to hurry up and end the farce so the next one can begin

When you name it after Bnet Attack you can't blame someone for expecting it to be like the show its named after. Which isn't 3 dorks on vent and 2 retards typing obscenities at eachother in caps and calling it a quality production
what
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
February 25 2008 18:13 GMT
#266
You're right, how could I make sense while refuting that priceless advice? If you don't like it move on, it's not for you. There's no point in veiling your flames and personal attacks as helping us improve. You don't like the Attack! series, that's fine, move along.
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XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
February 25 2008 18:21 GMT
#267
you know you can always start your own show if you dont like this.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
February 25 2008 18:40 GMT
#268
you could even call it "Temp Ban Attack" and co-host with Kennigit
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
February 25 2008 18:46 GMT
#269
I'd watch that.
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
February 25 2008 18:51 GMT
#270
first episode already aired ~20 minutes ago
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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
February 25 2008 18:55 GMT
#271
when is next episode of tlnet attack?
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-25 18:58:15
February 25 2008 18:57 GMT
#272
next weekend? holy shit thats liquibition too. Also, we require more roflsupplecakes
ATeddyBear
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Canada2843 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-25 19:02:40
February 25 2008 18:59 GMT
#273
and tomfoolery

also learn more about ur damn community. you could've had JUMPER on! (the kid that drove a tour bus over fakesteve during TL race wars)
Professional twice over - an analyst and a therapist. The world’s first analrapist.
G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2921 Posts
February 25 2008 19:10 GMT
#274
shit i wanna do tl attack rofl
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7221 Posts
February 25 2008 19:24 GMT
#275
On February 26 2008 03:59 ATeddyBear wrote:
and tomfoolery

also learn more about ur damn community. you could've had JUMPER on! (the kid that drove a tour bus over fakesteve during TL race wars)

yeah thats what i thought too could have been a second prize for the RW
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True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3434 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-25 20:15:27
February 25 2008 20:14 GMT
#276
"Since both pro and player are on the stream, anything we say about either player is heard. There is no way to make it a "fair" game. That's the entire point of this event! Why would you want to watch half a game? The idea is a fun event, not competitive play."

I think that this show should concentrate on the "star" player rather than the game itself. Like you said, it's not supposed to be fair - but only the "star" player is supposed to be at an disadvantage; it doesn't make any sense when you make it even easier for that "gosu" to crush his opponents, he's supposed to be doing that without any help at all and handicapped - because he's *that* good.
Most of the commentary has nothing to do with the game itself anyway, so "watching half of it", as you said, won't really be a problem. I actually think it would be more fun this way, since you could elaborate on the guest player's play, his build orders (as crazy as they are) and whatever he's doing on right now - making it much harder for him (as his opponent might be listening to the stream) and therefore, more fun for the spectators - as the entire show is much less predictable.

Also, don't get me wrong, even if the games were played for fun using silly build orders most of them were just bad. It would all look a lot more fun if we wouldnt be able to see how much the players chosen to play the "star" suck I think that would give an illusion of skill, in some cases, as we couldn't see any idle scv's, messed up build orders and so on.

And if they don't suck - lack of their vision would make the game look more dramatic. Dropships, rushes, sunken brakes - nobody could anticipate that coming, it would always be a huge surprise to both the star player and the spectators. Every single game incontrol played would look a 100x better if we didn't have vision of his opponent and everything was concentrated on his play only.

I *do* understand that show is all about fun and I *do* think that lack of the guest player opponent's vision would make it much, much more fun as everything would be completely unpredictable.
Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
February 25 2008 20:15 GMT
#277
My suggestion would be to make the players close the stream while they are playing. I suppose if the noob wants to cheat and have it open then that's OK, but at least make the star and any SERIOUS challengers close it. That way the commentators would have a lot more flexibility, and they can still talk to the players by in-game chatting.
Can't believe I'm still here playing this same game
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
February 25 2008 20:18 GMT
#278
On February 26 2008 05:14 True_Spike wrote:
"Since both pro and player are on the stream, anything we say about either player is heard. There is no way to make it a "fair" game. That's the entire point of this event! Why would you want to watch half a game? The idea is a fun event, not competitive play."

I think that this show should concentrate on the "star" player rather than the game itself. Like you said, it's not supposed to be fair - but only the "star" player is supposed to be at an disadvantage; it doesn't make any sense when you make it even easier for that "gosu" to crush his opponents, he's supposed to be doing that without any help at all and handicapped - because he's *that* good.
Most of the commentary has nothing to do with the game itself anyway, so "watching half of it", as you said, won't really be a problem. I actually think it would be more fun this way, since you could elaborate on the guest player's play, his build orders (as crazy as they are) and whatever he's doing on right now - making it much harder for him (as his opponent might be listening to the stream) and therefore, more fun for the spectators - as the entire show is much less predictable.

Also, don't get me wrong, even if the games were played for fun using silly build orders most of them were just bad. It would all look a lot more fun if we wouldnt be able to see how much the players chosen to play the "star" suck I think that would give an illusion of skill, in some cases, as we couldn't see any idle scv's, messed up build orders and so on.

And if they don't suck - lack of their vision would make the game look more dramatic. Dropships, rushes, sunken brakes - nobody could anticipate that coming, it would always be a huge surprise to both the star player and the spectators. Every single game incontrol played would look a 100x better if we didn't have vision of his opponent and everything was concentrated on his play only.

I *do* understand that show is all about fun and I *do* think that lack of the guest player opponent's vision would make it much, much more fun as everything would be completely unpredictable.


Interesting. We'll think about it.
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MorningMusume11
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3490 Posts
February 25 2008 20:30 GMT
#279
Awww man I missed it cuz of crappy Stats homework. I wanted to a cannon rush too... =D

ANyways things liek these are supposed to be fun. The mood is supposed to be chill compared to real matches
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
February 25 2008 20:45 GMT
#280
On February 26 2008 05:18 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2008 05:14 True_Spike wrote:
"Since both pro and player are on the stream, anything we say about either player is heard. There is no way to make it a "fair" game. That's the entire point of this event! Why would you want to watch half a game? The idea is a fun event, not competitive play."

I think that this show should concentrate on the "star" player rather than the game itself. Like you said, it's not supposed to be fair - but only the "star" player is supposed to be at an disadvantage; it doesn't make any sense when you make it even easier for that "gosu" to crush his opponents, he's supposed to be doing that without any help at all and handicapped - because he's *that* good.
Most of the commentary has nothing to do with the game itself anyway, so "watching half of it", as you said, won't really be a problem. I actually think it would be more fun this way, since you could elaborate on the guest player's play, his build orders (as crazy as they are) and whatever he's doing on right now - making it much harder for him (as his opponent might be listening to the stream) and therefore, more fun for the spectators - as the entire show is much less predictable.

Also, don't get me wrong, even if the games were played for fun using silly build orders most of them were just bad. It would all look a lot more fun if we wouldnt be able to see how much the players chosen to play the "star" suck I think that would give an illusion of skill, in some cases, as we couldn't see any idle scv's, messed up build orders and so on.

And if they don't suck - lack of their vision would make the game look more dramatic. Dropships, rushes, sunken brakes - nobody could anticipate that coming, it would always be a huge surprise to both the star player and the spectators. Every single game incontrol played would look a 100x better if we didn't have vision of his opponent and everything was concentrated on his play only.

I *do* understand that show is all about fun and I *do* think that lack of the guest player opponent's vision would make it much, much more fun as everything would be completely unpredictable.


Interesting. We'll think about it.

I like this idea. :O
lake should take a lesson on how to give constructive criticism and not sound like a butthole.
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
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