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one of the best games ever ngl saw
Speed and Jaedong seem to have some variance in their performance. sometimes speed sweeps, sometimes Jaedong. Their sets are almost never 50/50.
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Vatican City State90 Posts
JD often has short spikes of performance from time to time that make some of his fans hopeful that he will do well in ASL. But those spikes are usually short. He is sitting at 1200 elo right now.
These are his last few games (as many as could fit in my screen). Don't get your hopes high about him if you don't want to get disappointed. As usual, he will likely be knocked out by the ro16, or ro8 at best.
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Oh look, someone is making a prediction of future games based on the results of past games. Please, someone tell him that logic is fallacious and he shouldn't be cherry picking like that. Maybe send him a wikipedia link to raise his awareness 
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Anybody who has high expectations about the dong should also do what it takes to raise his own awareness
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Vatican City State90 Posts
On March 23 2025 05:17 TMNT wrote:Oh look, someone is making a prediction of future games based on the results of past games. Please, someone tell him that logic is fallacious and he shouldn't be cherry picking like that. Maybe send him a wikipedia link to raise his awareness
Living rent free in your head. Enjoy your life.
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On March 23 2025 07:47 cheesehuehue wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2025 05:17 TMNT wrote:Oh look, someone is making a prediction of future games based on the results of past games. Please, someone tell him that logic is fallacious and he shouldn't be cherry picking like that. Maybe send him a wikipedia link to raise his awareness Living rent free in your head. Enjoy your life.
Oh I do enjoy my life, for example at moments when I called out your stupidity.
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On March 23 2025 02:24 cheesehuehue wrote:JD often has short spikes of performance from time to time that make some of his fans hopeful that he will do well in ASL. But those spikes are usually short. He is sitting at 1200 elo right now. These are his last few games (as many as could fit in my screen). Don't get your hopes high about him if you don't want to get disappointed. As usual, he will likely be knocked out by the ro16, or ro8 at best.
Do take note of the names he's playing against all being current top performers for their race.
0-1 vs ggaemo.
1-0 vs tyson.
0-1 vs rush.
2-2 vs speed.
2-0 vs mind.
0-4 vs snow.
0-1 vs mind.
0-1 vs flash.
2-1 vs best
0-3 vs SnOw + 0-2 vs Rush (same bo9)
0-1 vs Royal
1-2 vs Royal. + 1-1 vs Best (same bo9)
1-2 vs mind
4-2 vs RoyaL
In total that'd be, ignoring ggaemo, flash and tyson because those are single matches:
0-3 vs Rush
2-2 vs Speed
3-3 vs Mind
0-7 vs Snow
3-2 vs Best
5-5 vs RoyaL
If you look at it like this it doesn't look as bad. Its largely Rush and SnOw absolutely dominating vs Jaedong that makes that game history look "bad". But SnOw did the same to everyone he has played this month. Nobody except Soulkey and Speed have managed to do well vs SnOw. Everyone else has lost. And Rush has also been doing really well, even getting an all kill in KCM. Your argument boils down to "Jaedong lost vs the BEST ACTIVE PLAYERS so he's now BAD!"
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His prediction is most likely right though. Doubt anyone would argue that JD is more than a Ro16/8 player. Just like almost everyone predicted that Soulkey would beat Snow in both previous seasons.
But since the dude once condemned me because I... made that prediction, he has now slapped himself in the face lol.
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On March 23 2025 10:12 TMNT wrote:
His prediction is most likely right though. Doubt anyone would argue that JD is more than a Ro16/8 player. Just like almost everyone predicted that Soulkey would beat Snow in both previous seasons.
But since the dude once condemned me because I... made that prediction, he has now slapped himself in the face lol.
Jaedong is definitely Ro16 material currently. The ro8 potentials would have to eliminate each other in Ro16 for Jaedong to be capable of getting a Ro8 spot. Soulkey, SnOw, Best, Light and HerO seem likes guaranteed Ro8 material. Question then becomes who you fill that Ro8 out with. Speed, Rush, Queen, Mini, RoyaL, Sharp? I would put Jaedong behind those players currently albeit different from my original power rankings haha. Many Players are currently just in asburdly good shape.
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is rain playing bw at all?
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Vatican City State90 Posts
On March 23 2025 05:17 TMNT wrote:
Oh look, someone is making a prediction of future games based on the results of past games.
Is there any other way to make predictions other than based on past events? Are you really that imbecile? I cannot fathom how you managed to become so confidently stupid. I mean, is it raw talent or did you train really hard. I've got to acknowledge your dedication to your craft, though. Kudos to you.
On March 23 2025 10:12 TMNT wrote:
But since the dude once condemned me because I... made that prediction
No, moron! I didn't call you out on the fact that you used past results for making predictions about future outcomes. I called you out for the flawed reasoning and approach you used to make predictions. So good luck attempting to use false equivalence next time. Ah, do you also need a link explaining what false equivalence is? Here, go nuts.
On March 23 2025 10:12 TMNT wrote:
His prediction is most likely right though.
You said it yourself. I made a reasonable prediction. You didn't. And why are you even bringing up something that happened LAST YEAR? You just said you agreed with I said, and still you decided to start an argument about something that happened LAST YEAR? Are you really STILL salty about it? Stop being a loser and move on.
On March 23 2025 08:35 TMNT wrote:
Oh I do enjoy my life
So does my dog. Ignorance is bliss, as they say. Now take your head out of the window, you are drooling on the backseat.
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Speed just beat Snow and Mini again in a 2v2 series with Hero going 5:4. Looking like he has a perfomance spike. Speed does feel like he has been the player that's grinding the hardest currently.
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On March 23 2025 12:57 cheesehuehue wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2025 05:17 TMNT wrote:
Oh look, someone is making a prediction of future games based on the results of past games. Is there any other way to make predictions other than based on past events? Are you really that imbecile? I cannot fathom how you managed to become so confidently stupid. I mean, is it raw talent or did you train really hard. I've got to acknowledge your dedication to your craft, though. Kudos to you. Show nested quote +On March 23 2025 10:12 TMNT wrote:
But since the dude once condemned me because I... made that prediction
No, moron! I didn't call you out on the fact that you used past results for making predictions about future outcomes. I called you out for the flawed reasoning and approach you used to make predictions. So good luck attempting to use false equivalence next time. Ah, do you also need a link explaining what false equivalence is? Here, go nuts. Show nested quote +On March 23 2025 10:12 TMNT wrote:
His prediction is most likely right though. You said it yourself. I made a reasonable prediction. You didn't. And why are you even bringing up something that happened LAST YEAR? You just said you agreed with I said, and still you decided to start an argument about something that happened LAST YEAR? Are you really STILL salty about it? Stop being a loser and move on. So does my dog. Ignorance is bliss, as they say. Now take your head out of the window, you are drooling on the backseat.
See? The simple fact that you decided to "call out" someone for.... making an innocuous prediction that many people were also making, already makes you a dick. You don't see people going around trying to call out others' flaws in reasoning of making their tier list do you?
And no, it is not false equivalent, because the equivalent here is not the logic of your prediction, but how you react like a dick to other people posting normal things on a forum.
And if I really want to scrutinise your "approach", I can also say the JD's results you posted do not justify your prediction, because as RJBTV pointed out, he essentially just lost to Rush and Snow. So can I call out your "flawed reasoning" now?
Besides there's no way it is not reasonable to predict Snow would lose to Soulkey in a Bo7 because he... check notes... lost two Bo7s to him just a week before the semifinals.
Lastly I can't be salty because I wasn't in the wrong back then. I simply saw the irony in your post and decided to make fun of it (even if it risks me being banned) because dicks like you deserve so at any point of your existence on this board.
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At least JD demonstrated recently that on a "good" day he can win a bo7 vs anyone, that is enough for me to hope for a quarter final  It's unfortunate but I think he doesn't train enough for more, last stream lasted 10 hours, bro played like 3 games. You won't win ASL this way, pretty sure he knows that.
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On March 23 2025 18:26 iFU.pauline wrote:At least JD demonstrated recently that on a "good" day he can win a bo7 vs anyone, that is enough for me to hope for a quarter final It's unfortunate but I think he doesn't train enough for more, last stream lasted 10 hours, bro played like 3 games. You won't win ASL this way, pretty sure he knows that.
Honestly, that is the best we can expect out of any pro these days.
When I heard Artosis say, "Speed is the most active pro in ladder" I didn't make much of it, but when I saw his vulture control in the game against Paralyse I said wait what do we have here! Then, it hit me: ambushing reaver drops with vulture surround like a single hotbox is only possible by constant training and what I'm witnessing is great mechanics. I guess nothing replaces putting in more work. I think pros have limits to how long they can stretch their games. I think we have seen it with Snow. He isn't one who always picks up steam in the early game for instance. All sections of the game are at the same importance, so what pros compete on is peak adaptability.
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On March 23 2025 20:46 mtcn77 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2025 18:26 iFU.pauline wrote:At least JD demonstrated recently that on a "good" day he can win a bo7 vs anyone, that is enough for me to hope for a quarter final It's unfortunate but I think he doesn't train enough for more, last stream lasted 10 hours, bro played like 3 games. You won't win ASL this way, pretty sure he knows that. Honestly, that is the best we can expect out of any pro these days. When I heard Artosis say, "Speed is the most active pro in ladder" I didn't make much of it, but when I saw his vulture control in the game against Paralyse I said wait what do we have here! Then, it hit me: ambushing reaver drops with vulture surround like a single hotbox is only possible by constant training and what I'm witnessing is great mechanics. I guess nothing replaces putting in more work. I think pros have limits to how long they can stretch their games. I think we have seen it with Snow. He isn't one who always picks up steam in the early game for instance. All sections of the game are at the same importance, so what pros compete on is peak adaptability.
Speed also plays large amounts of BGH. His activity level is pretty high and it for sure has allowed for his talent to really develop. Been a fan of his since 2020 and felt that he could grow to be a powerhouse.
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i didn’t know koreans played BGH, i thought they only played hunters
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Vatican City State90 Posts
On March 23 2025 17:06 TMNT wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2025 12:57 cheesehuehue wrote:On March 23 2025 05:17 TMNT wrote:
Oh look, someone is making a prediction of future games based on the results of past games. Is there any other way to make predictions other than based on past events? Are you really that imbecile? I cannot fathom how you managed to become so confidently stupid. I mean, is it raw talent or did you train really hard. I've got to acknowledge your dedication to your craft, though. Kudos to you. On March 23 2025 10:12 TMNT wrote:
But since the dude once condemned me because I... made that prediction
No, moron! I didn't call you out on the fact that you used past results for making predictions about future outcomes. I called you out for the flawed reasoning and approach you used to make predictions. So good luck attempting to use false equivalence next time. Ah, do you also need a link explaining what false equivalence is? Here, go nuts. On March 23 2025 10:12 TMNT wrote:
His prediction is most likely right though. You said it yourself. I made a reasonable prediction. You didn't. And why are you even bringing up something that happened LAST YEAR? You just said you agreed with I said, and still you decided to start an argument about something that happened LAST YEAR? Are you really STILL salty about it? Stop being a loser and move on. On March 23 2025 08:35 TMNT wrote:
Oh I do enjoy my life So does my dog. Ignorance is bliss, as they say. Now take your head out of the window, you are drooling on the backseat. See? The simple fact that you decided to "call out" someone for.... making an innocuous prediction that many people were also making, already makes you a dick. You don't see people going around trying to call out others' flaws in reasoning of making their tier list do you? And no, it is not false equivalent, because the equivalent here is not the logic of your prediction, but how you react like a dick to other people posting normal things on a forum. And if I really want to scrutinise your "approach", I can also say the JD's results you posted do not justify your prediction, because as RJBTV pointed out, he essentially just lost to Rush and Snow. So can I call out your "flawed reasoning" now? Besides there's no way it is not reasonable to predict Snow would lose to Soulkey in a Bo7 because he... check notes... lost two Bo7s to him just a week before the semifinals. Lastly I can't be salty because I wasn't in the wrong back then. I simply saw the irony in your post and decided to make fun of it (even if it risks me being banned) because dicks like you deserve so at any point of your existence on this board.
I'm not reading that. Just move on. I mean, if you can.
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Singapore66286 Posts
JD will probably go to Ro8 at best. his ZvP and ZvT has been looking pretty good as of late, although he has some moments of faltering... his ZvT hydra-lurker and late game has improved and his ZvP hydra-centric plays have been pretty decent, so I hope he goes to Ro8, but beyond that it might be a bit hard against the top of the game at the moment... but glad to see him improving. Some of his plays lately feels like his prime JD days
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i really undersold some players on my first tier list draft. wasnt sure about placing some players higher but I should have. the signs were there.
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