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Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway716 Posts
December 30 2023 16:11 GMT
#261
It's ok bro, not judging xD
castleeMg
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Canada777 Posts
December 30 2023 17:39 GMT
#262
To be brutally honest he was a bad caster. He lacked basic game knowledge, he tried super hard to be witty and funny but it just came off as cringy. I often muted the stream or shut it off completely when he was casting. This is why I find it so weird that Rus_brain thought it would be a good idea to bring rapid back despite him being a terrible caster and all the sexual abuse allegations around him. Even if he was able to get Sharp to attend, it definitely was not worth it. It was just completely amateur to invite a guy back to represent your brand who has sexual abuse allegations, ran away from the allegations when confronted about it, then casually snaked his way back into a casting role like nothing ever happened and to top it off, he sucked at casting to begin with. I don’t think he should be allowed to cast BSL stuff again mainly based off that he wasn’t good at casting, lots of people seem to agree with that. The sexual allegations just kinda the icing on the cake that he shouldn’t be involved with BSL or probably anything BW casting related .
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands988 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-12-30 21:57:21
December 30 2023 18:15 GMT
#263
is it respectable to backtrack on comments made because comments were badly received, and damage control to save ones own reputation because it is the only feasible option to avoid self destruction of ones brand? He is trying to save his brand after publicly attacking others and defending his decisions.

Edit: That aside, Rus_Brain is doing good by reaching out and fixing things.
JDON MY SOUL!
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5513 Posts
December 31 2023 02:36 GMT
#264
I would watch Kwark and Rus_Brain converse over this. Just sayin.
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LUCKY_NOOB
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Bulgaria1496 Posts
December 31 2023 09:19 GMT
#265
People are allowed to change their minds and hearts when presented with solid arguments made in good faith.

Casting ability should not have any real bearing on the main issue at hand. Of course if he was the best caster then the "loss" would feel worse. I also think being native speaker was mentioned. I have no problem with non native accents (maybe cuz I got one myself) but some people do.

In Coingate (Flash, Bisu and other top pros being involved in a pump and dump scheme) for example and contrast people issued explanations/apologies to their fanbase.
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Rus_Brain
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Russian Federation1893 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-01-02 07:35:59
January 02 2024 07:34 GMT
#266
I am afraid there is a misunderstanding here, guys.

It is not my intention to engage in a dispute or debate about how each of us perceives the situation; nor is it to convince you to change your beliefs or values, or to persuade others to adopt your viewpoint.

My goal is to prevent schism of this community, which is already facing a very certain future of eventual shrinking without the injection of new blood. In order to achieve this, it is necessary to identify a mutually agreeable middle ground. While I may have some thoughts on how to accomplish this, certainty in my understanding of the essense of the calamity is required before offering anything.

Yet, it seems that there is a lack of interest in fostering mutual respect, as no one has reached out to discuss this further.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43135 Posts
January 02 2024 08:33 GMT
#267
Just don’t invite rapid to shit. What’s there to discuss.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25875 Posts
January 02 2024 11:20 GMT
#268
On January 02 2024 17:33 KwarK wrote:
Just don’t invite rapid to shit. What’s there to discuss.

Yeah there’s not really a particular middle ground here, pick your particular poison, it’s a very binary calculation.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands988 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-01-02 12:21:52
January 02 2024 12:19 GMT
#269
On January 02 2024 16:34 Rus_Brain wrote:
I am afraid there is a misunderstanding here, guys.

It is not my intention to engage in a dispute or debate about how each of us perceives the situation; nor is it to convince you to change your beliefs or values, or to persuade others to adopt your viewpoint.

My goal is to prevent schism of this community, which is already facing a very certain future of eventual shrinking without the injection of new blood. In order to achieve this, it is necessary to identify a mutually agreeable middle ground. While I may have some thoughts on how to accomplish this, certainty in my understanding of the essense of the calamity is required before offering anything.

Yet, it seems that there is a lack of interest in fostering mutual respect, as no one has reached out to discuss this further.


Do not invite dangerous people to LAN events. And if you do please apologize for the mistake. If you invite a dangerous person, players and their family are not safe at your LAN event. Safety is most important.
JDON MY SOUL!
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10213 Posts
January 02 2024 17:38 GMT
#270
On January 02 2024 16:34 Rus_Brain wrote:
I am afraid there is a misunderstanding here, guys.

It is not my intention to engage in a dispute or debate about how each of us perceives the situation; nor is it to convince you to change your beliefs or values, or to persuade others to adopt your viewpoint.

My goal is to prevent schism of this community, which is already facing a very certain future of eventual shrinking without the injection of new blood. In order to achieve this, it is necessary to identify a mutually agreeable middle ground. While I may have some thoughts on how to accomplish this, certainty in my understanding of the essense of the calamity is required before offering anything.

Yet, it seems that there is a lack of interest in fostering mutual respect, as no one has reached out to discuss this further.

This is a false compromise fallacy. There isn't a middle ground. Don't invite sexual predators to LANs, and then don't try to subsequently defend your decision to bring him.
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands988 Posts
January 02 2024 20:53 GMT
#271
On January 03 2024 02:38 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2024 16:34 Rus_Brain wrote:
I am afraid there is a misunderstanding here, guys.

It is not my intention to engage in a dispute or debate about how each of us perceives the situation; nor is it to convince you to change your beliefs or values, or to persuade others to adopt your viewpoint.

My goal is to prevent schism of this community, which is already facing a very certain future of eventual shrinking without the injection of new blood. In order to achieve this, it is necessary to identify a mutually agreeable middle ground. While I may have some thoughts on how to accomplish this, certainty in my understanding of the essense of the calamity is required before offering anything.

Yet, it seems that there is a lack of interest in fostering mutual respect, as no one has reached out to discuss this further.

This is a false compromise fallacy. There isn't a middle ground. Don't invite sexual predators to LANs, and then don't try to subsequently defend your decision to bring him.

Rus_brain needs a PR agent.
JDON MY SOUL!
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4478 Posts
January 02 2024 21:41 GMT
#272
@ Brain
I think you should accept that this is not a situation in which any attempts at diplomacy can change the equation. Rapid is clearly not welcome in the community and yet he chooses to stay silent. Your best option is to put him on a blacklist until he decides to come forward with his version of events.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 02 2024 22:28 GMT
#273
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earob84
Profile Joined October 2017
Germany175 Posts
January 03 2024 10:37 GMT
#274
On January 02 2024 16:34 Rus_Brain wrote:
I am afraid there is a misunderstanding here, guys.

It is not my intention to engage in a dispute or debate about how each of us perceives the situation; nor is it to convince you to change your beliefs or values, or to persuade others to adopt your viewpoint.

My goal is to prevent schism of this community, which is already facing a very certain future of eventual shrinking without the injection of new blood. In order to achieve this, it is necessary to identify a mutually agreeable middle ground. While I may have some thoughts on how to accomplish this, certainty in my understanding of the essense of the calamity is required before offering anything.

Yet, it seems that there is a lack of interest in fostering mutual respect, as no one has reached out to discuss this further.


I support your post. I mean all i read from many others are only phrases that seperate people from each other viewpoints even more. Rus brain dousnt want to change our opinion on this topic but he sees a bit further then that. Would be nice to hear after all some more positive thoughts for our way as community.
hrtrtzdfgww
Profile Joined December 2023
3 Posts
January 03 2024 11:49 GMT
#275
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands988 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-01-03 15:46:50
January 03 2024 15:46 GMT
#276
On January 03 2024 07:28 JimmiC wrote:
It could be as simple as, does he bring more viewers/money or less. That is more or less his job if it is less, which seems very likely, than leave him out.

involving Rapid has clearly been a PR disaster. Rus_Brain should've known before hand that it would be. He needs PR agent to go over his ideas and choices before he actually goes through with them. Someone who can tell him "This is a bad idea."
JDON MY SOUL!
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10213 Posts
January 03 2024 16:03 GMT
#277
On January 04 2024 00:46 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2024 07:28 JimmiC wrote:
It could be as simple as, does he bring more viewers/money or less. That is more or less his job if it is less, which seems very likely, than leave him out.

involving Rapid has clearly been a PR disaster. Rus_Brain should've known before hand that it would be. He needs PR agent to go over his ideas and choices before he actually goes through with them. Someone who can tell him "This is a bad idea."

JimmiC is correct though. Ultimately Rus's decision comes down to whether inviting Rapid along with however many Korean pros would net him more viewers. Clearly, he thinks so. And if so, good for him. It's not really PR, the raw numbers tell the story.
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
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LG)Sabbath
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Argentina3024 Posts
January 03 2024 17:50 GMT
#278
My goal is to prevent schism of this community, which is already facing a very certain future of eventual shrinking without the injection of new blood.

the community is shrinking so we're recruiting potential child abusers?

Yet, it seems that there is a lack of interest in fostering mutual respect, as no one has reached out to discuss this further.

I believe Rapid gave up his side of mutual respect voluntarily a long time ago
https://www.twitch.tv/argsabbath/
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands988 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-01-03 21:57:22
January 03 2024 21:55 GMT
#279
On January 04 2024 01:03 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2024 00:46 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
On January 03 2024 07:28 JimmiC wrote:
It could be as simple as, does he bring more viewers/money or less. That is more or less his job if it is less, which seems very likely, than leave him out.

involving Rapid has clearly been a PR disaster. Rus_Brain should've known before hand that it would be. He needs PR agent to go over his ideas and choices before he actually goes through with them. Someone who can tell him "This is a bad idea."

JimmiC is correct though. Ultimately Rus's decision comes down to whether inviting Rapid along with however many Korean pros would net him more viewers. Clearly, he thinks so. And if so, good for him. It's not really PR, the raw numbers tell the story.


You can not look at the numbers of the event itself in isolation though, specifically when its attached to a brand. The decisions made put the future of the brand and its future events in danger because of the terrible PR fallout. Also there is no telling if numbers would have been higher or lower because we dont have any recent events to compare this to. The PR fallout and potential loss of future donations to fund events is by itself already a "numbers" disaster. Negative PR affects the numbers.
JDON MY SOUL!
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10213 Posts
January 03 2024 22:35 GMT
#280
On January 04 2024 06:55 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2024 01:03 FlaShFTW wrote:
On January 04 2024 00:46 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
On January 03 2024 07:28 JimmiC wrote:
It could be as simple as, does he bring more viewers/money or less. That is more or less his job if it is less, which seems very likely, than leave him out.

involving Rapid has clearly been a PR disaster. Rus_Brain should've known before hand that it would be. He needs PR agent to go over his ideas and choices before he actually goes through with them. Someone who can tell him "This is a bad idea."

JimmiC is correct though. Ultimately Rus's decision comes down to whether inviting Rapid along with however many Korean pros would net him more viewers. Clearly, he thinks so. And if so, good for him. It's not really PR, the raw numbers tell the story.


You can not look at the numbers of the event itself in isolation though, specifically when its attached to a brand. The decisions made put the future of the brand and its future events in danger because of the terrible PR fallout. Also there is no telling if numbers would have been higher or lower because we dont have any recent events to compare this to. The PR fallout and potential loss of future donations to fund events is by itself already a "numbers" disaster. Negative PR affects the numbers.

Right, that's what I'm saying though. If he projects that viewership will increase with Rapid getting Korean pros to his events, then it's actually in his best interest to keep bringing Rapid to events. That's his decision and ultimately, he's taking a gamble with that decision.

It's possible that Rus has realized that doing so would actually NOT be in his best interest and now he's trying to find some middle ground (as he says himself) to save some face. Who knows at this point.
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