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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43550 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-12-28 05:19:22
December 28 2023 05:11 GMT
#241
It's not even accountability, he's just not a good caster. Even if he didn't show his dick to girls he wouldn't be a good candidate to cast BSL events because he doesn't play or understand BW.

That's what makes this whole thing so weird. Why is this even a discussion? If he wasn't qualified before he started showing people his dick then I can only conclude that to a section of the scbw community it's the 30cm dong that makes him qualified. But you don't need to have him on Twitch hosting BSL events for that. If you want the dong then he'll show you the dong. I'd say "just ask" but let's be honest, you don't have to ask, he'll just whip it out, whether you want him to or not.
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kAra
Profile Joined September 2004
Germany1392 Posts
December 28 2023 08:02 GMT
#242
accountability is not a concept which works in russia, gulag and shit
mada mada dane
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3116 Posts
December 28 2023 09:41 GMT
#243
This thread always screams style over substance to me. Many formal words over such a straightforward matter. It's clear that Mr Rus Brain here

(a) doesn't take Rapid's allegation as serious as most of the community does,

(b) sees that Rapid can bring some values to his LAN event, i.e. escort a progamer and can cast to some extent (better having one than nothing),

(c) it's his money and his tournament, so he doesn't give a shit about what some guys behind keyboards on the other side of the planet are saying in a dead forum, so he does what he deems right

(d) won't be convinced by any of you especially those who come from a western ideology

(e) dares you to confront him face to face.

There, laid out in bare words for you guys.
LUCKY_NOOB
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Bulgaria1514 Posts
December 28 2023 10:41 GMT
#244
On December 28 2023 18:41 TMNT wrote:
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This thread always screams style over substance to me. Many formal words over such a straightforward matter. It's clear that Mr Rus Brain here

(a) doesn't take Rapid's allegation as serious as most of the community does,

(b) sees that Rapid can bring some values to his LAN event, i.e. escort a progamer and can cast to some extent (better having one than nothing),

(c) it's his money and his tournament, so he doesn't give a shit about what some guys behind keyboards on the other side of the planet are saying in a dead forum, so he does what he deems right

(d) won't be convinced by any of you especially those who come from a western ideology

(e) dares you to confront him face to face.

There, laid out in bare words for you guys.


Well he clearly cares enough to address the issue here and in other threads and forums (unlike Rapid), which I appreciate.

Of course it is his prerogative to do as he pleases with the events he's funding.

IF indeed nobody is getting convinced there is little point in arguing. We can agree to disagree on where the line should be.

I wouldn't dare go against Brain as a "Dumb lizard" which he so eloquent put as his first response here. Jealous however has stepped up to the challenge and it may be interesting to see the back and forth if anything new would be said or achieved by this, which would mainly be this not happening in the future I guess.

I think for future refence no matter who the person is, or how much or little their contribution to an event is people would have questions about unresolved matters. So either address it prior the event (in the event thread) or as in this case after. So everyone knows what they are in for.

Somehow 99.9999% of people in the community have figured out how not to be involved in such controversy. This leads me to believe it can't be that hard.

^_._^
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Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway763 Posts
December 28 2023 11:58 GMT
#245
On December 28 2023 18:41 TMNT wrote:
This thread always screams style over substance to me. Many formal words over such a straightforward matter. It's clear that Mr Rus Brain here

(a) doesn't take Rapid's allegation as serious as most of the community does,

(b) sees that Rapid can bring some values to his LAN event, i.e. escort a progamer and can cast to some extent (better having one than nothing),

(c) it's his money and his tournament, so he doesn't give a shit about what some guys behind keyboards on the other side of the planet are saying in a dead forum, so he does what he deems right

(d) won't be convinced by any of you especially those who come from a western ideology

(e) dares you to confront him face to face.

There, laid out in bare words for you guys.

That’s the impression I got as well.

And from reading the posts from that other forum, it seems they actually want Rapid to cast, because it pisses off the western viewers.
Like some war on western standards or something.
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3434 Posts
December 28 2023 14:59 GMT
#246
rusbrain (or any event organiser) is free to do whatever they like with regards to whoever they work with, but then they cannot come and complain about possible boycotts/shortage of donation/stopping of collaboration with others.

One is the natural consequence of the other. It is very clear where everyone basically lies on the topic and actions will be taken accordingly if there is a next time.

TMNT's post is on point except part c) because they did come and troll but also complain we were destroying BSL. Cant have it both ways, get Rapid to your event and be boycotted.

At least I appreciate RusBrain s straightforwardness in this after the initial low effort posts, so props to him even if we clearly are on different sides of the issue it is still to be lauded.
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10290 Posts
December 29 2023 05:36 GMT
#247
On December 28 2023 18:41 TMNT wrote:
This thread always screams style over substance to me. Many formal words over such a straightforward matter. It's clear that Mr Rus Brain here

(a) doesn't take Rapid's allegation as serious as most of the community does,

(b) sees that Rapid can bring some values to his LAN event, i.e. escort a progamer and can cast to some extent (better having one than nothing),

(c) it's his money and his tournament, so he doesn't give a shit about what some guys behind keyboards on the other side of the planet are saying in a dead forum, so he does what he deems right

(d) won't be convinced by any of you especially those who come from a western ideology

(e) dares you to confront him face to face.

There, laid out in bare words for you guys.

Yeah, it's his money. It's also our viewership and attention. He has a right to continue to bring Rapid to his events. We have the right to point out how dumbass it is to do something like that and not watch/support his tournaments and events.

Dead forum btw but you're still on here posting. Not sure which is worse.
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Sauce Rex
Profile Joined December 2023
1 Post
December 29 2023 11:32 GMT
#248
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Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway763 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-12-29 13:13:30
December 29 2023 13:13 GMT
#249
On December 29 2023 14:36 FlaShFTW wrote:
Dead forum btw but you're still on here posting. Not sure which is worse.


I would say it’s worse that the forum is dead.

Wouldn’t call it dead though, sure there are periods of low activity, but when something big happens (Like Rapid casting) the activity is high.

It’s like the forum is in hibernation and TL is still a big part of BW, and that warms my heart ❤️
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3116 Posts
December 29 2023 13:45 GMT
#250
Dead is more a figure of saying or how Rus Brain sees us,rather than actually dead. The SC2 section is still doing well and this place is still the de facto home for foreign BW news and announcements.

On the topic, I guess what I want to say is, at this point all "diplomatic" talks are just futile. He doesn't give a shit and will do what he likes to. You either boycott events associated with him (if any) or just move on. Most of the players will probably just pretend they know nothing.
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
December 29 2023 13:49 GMT
#251
Not sure who is more stupid, Rapid for what he did or ppl who want a life sentence for him due to that.
#popcorn
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5752 Posts
December 29 2023 19:40 GMT
#252
On December 29 2023 22:49 Poegim wrote:
Not sure who is more stupid, Rapid for what he did or ppl who want a life sentence for him due to that.
#popcorn

Except nobody is asking for that.
KameZerg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1767 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-12-29 21:18:56
December 29 2023 21:13 GMT
#253
We should leave all things BW to BW and all things personal to someone's personal life, but If someone does this to players/workers involved in the tournament, they should be told to stop and if they don't, they should be removed. Not more difficult than that.

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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1093 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-12-29 22:16:28
December 29 2023 21:55 GMT
#254
He has not come forward to explain himself nor has he done anything to redeem himself. As a result he has not earned a second chance. As a caster you are a spokesperson and representative of the community you cast for. For that community it is very very bad to be represented by an individual with a trackrecord of harassment and abuse of power that comes with their role. Natutally you never give someone like that same position or power ever again, because they have already proven to not be worthy of it.

in addition, if you as an organizer decide to include in your event a k nown sexual harasser, abuser or offender, you are by extension also responsible for any action that person undertakes at your event. If he sexually harasses or abuses anyone at YOUR event then YOU as the host are also at fault. DO NOT take that risk of ENABLING a potential sex offender, harasser or abuser by knowingly placing them in an environment where there are potential victims to prey on. Anyone who you invited to BSL LAN and their families could have been harassed or worse by Rapid at that event. If that had happened Rus_Brain would have been responsible because he invited Rapid.

Does Rapid deserve another chance? maybe someday, but that time was not at BSL. Not now and not anytime soon. Not until he has gone through all the steps of proving to the entire community he betrayed that he is a changed person who has gone through all the pubishment for all his actions.


also dont forget his starcraft caster career was his second chance after he fled the league community. He commited he same acts after getting that second chance. The chances are high he will do the exact same thing again on his third chance and fourth chance.



another issue. Because Rus_Brain has shown to lack the proper judgement not to invite a sex harasser/offender, can the community trust him with future event invites? The chance exists he will invite someone else who is banned from the community to a future event. Or maybe someone with a violent history? This whole debacle raises the question: can we trust Rus_Brain not to invite people who have a bad history?
JDON MY SOUL!
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3702 Posts
December 29 2023 22:46 GMT
#255
It's not like he even changed careers or made any effort to explain or redeem himself, he just thought or hoped we'd all forget I guess. He's currently working for "AMX Global" on some racing sim league, which looks to be either the product of some very rich person/people with niche interests, or some kind of scam, but still involves working with content creators and streamers, which seems VERY MUCH like something Rapid should not be doing, certainly not without strict oversight, given his history.

You can see him casting here:


It's not okay to have him involved in any community event, and whether or not you "put him in front of the camera" doesn't change that. He shouldn't be there, period. I don't give a fuck if he brings 30 progamers with him, none of that is worth the shit that he put other people through.
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
RJBTV
Profile Joined December 2022
194 Posts
December 29 2023 22:49 GMT
#256
On December 30 2023 07:46 tec27 wrote:
It's not like he even changed careers or made any effort to explain or redeem himself, he just thought or hoped we'd all forget I guess. He's currently working for "AMX Global" on some racing sim league, which looks to be either the product of some very rich person/people with niche interests, or some kind of scam, but still involves working with content creators and streamers, which seems VERY MUCH like something Rapid should not be doing, certainly not without strict oversight, given his history.

You can see him casting here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUgdvL3gGqc

It's not okay to have him involved in any community event, and whether or not you "put him in front of the camera" doesn't change that. He shouldn't be there, period. I don't give a fuck if he brings 30 progamers with him, none of that is worth the shit that he put other people through.



Rapid is and will forever be a risk factor if you decide to involve him. You put other people in danger by having him involved. That is the main issue here.
y2kid
Profile Joined May 2018
92 Posts
December 30 2023 08:33 GMT
#257
Everyone, this topic is getting a lot of attention again and I understand why, but please I ask anybody who wishes to post to have a look at what they are posting and think how it will be perceived.

My opinion on this matter has been well known, and those that do not know it can find it in the posts in this and the other topics. Regardless of it, Rus_brain is trying to reach out and speak to the community. This is something that we should congratulate him for and respect the act of doing so. After all the biggest issue I have with rapid is that he has refused to ever acknowledge his actions or talk about them. I do believe we all have our reservations and have made our minds on how Rus feels about this situation after his many posts or his "dumb lizzard " responses. Still, he is trying taking a step in the right direction and it is pointless to attack him for it.

I believe, we can all agree that discussions on this will be fruitless, until Rapid addresses the issue in some public form and opens it for discussion. Well done to Rus for doing what he is doing, but discussions would be pointless right now. if he feels he needs a clarification before accepting this he can ask freely for details over particular points he finds confusing. Jealous can translate and communicate back to him whatever necessary. Finally, if Rus thinks he has new information to bring to the table, let us ask him to do so transparently.

That is all, peace to all and let us present ourselves as a community of grown-ups and not let trolls or emotions get the best of us for either side of this argument.
kAra
Profile Joined September 2004
Germany1392 Posts
December 30 2023 13:15 GMT
#258
maybe the next event can be held at a nudist beach, in this enviroment i can see rabid casts improve from uninteresting (at best) to medicore level
mada mada dane
Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway763 Posts
December 30 2023 14:26 GMT
#259
So ur saying u want to see his huge cock?
kAra
Profile Joined September 2004
Germany1392 Posts
December 30 2023 14:38 GMT
#260
all im saying is, if this would help to improve his casting to a level where i dont have to mute the stream - we should at least consider it. making him feel more at "home" for those casts could be the key
mada mada dane
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