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sophisticated
Profile Joined October 2021
60 Posts
August 04 2023 08:11 GMT
#41
On August 04 2023 01:27 WGT-Baal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2023 00:18 Mutaller wrote:
We just got a green post, not blue on the thread.
Here's the post

These posts don't make us feel any better. It's so miserable, it doesn't help at all

it s contradictory even. The ladder was reset so someone had to do it. So since they did it why not change the map pool as well?

Either nothing happens (no reset, no new maps) or something happen (a reset, here) showing that it is possible.

You cant have the reset and their explanation together, one of them has to be false.


Given how the reset was exactly on Aug 1st, I would not rule out that this was an automated yearly script running (i.e. cronjob). No human interaction required.

One option to do this differently would be to have a permanent map pool across seasons but put like 20-30 maps in it. That wouldn't get boring as fast. Question is how do you get new maps into it.
kjhjhiuzjhg
Profile Joined August 2023
1 Post
August 04 2023 08:55 GMT
#42
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WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3444 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-04 14:42:50
August 04 2023 14:36 GMT
#43
On August 04 2023 17:11 sophisticated wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2023 01:27 WGT-Baal wrote:
On August 04 2023 00:18 Mutaller wrote:
We just got a green post, not blue on the thread.
Here's the post

These posts don't make us feel any better. It's so miserable, it doesn't help at all

it s contradictory even. The ladder was reset so someone had to do it. So since they did it why not change the map pool as well?

Either nothing happens (no reset, no new maps) or something happen (a reset, here) showing that it is possible.

You cant have the reset and their explanation together, one of them has to be false.


Given how the reset was exactly on Aug 1st, I would not rule out that this was an automated yearly script running (i.e. cronjob). No human interaction required.

One option to do this differently would be to have a permanent map pool across seasons but put like 20-30 maps in it. That wouldn't get boring as fast. Question is how do you get new maps into it.


I had actually not considered that, but you are right. In which case they could easily edit it to have 6 months long season.
I like the idea of a bigger map pool but then you run into issues of veto overlap etc (now those can all bne tweaked, but it needs to be considered carefully) and still it doesnt solve the problem of new maps (as in newly made maps) being added.

I think the main concern is lack of transparency. If Blizzard came out like "ok guys, we just cant do anything going forward so we ll give you this mappool forever and reset every 6 months" it would probably go down better than the shambolic communication we have.
Perhaps we could get on a "standard" map pool and then any new/weird map would just be played elsewhere (tournaments, custom games, Shield Battery etc).
Like yeah it might be a bit boring but a lot of people (particularly in Korea, from what I gather) on ladder want normal maps to practice the basics, and then we play the tournament maps in custom games or during the tournament. We need to come up with a solution that is acceptable by Blizzard, and clearly them changing maps periodically is not it for them.

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Entaro[AoV]
Profile Joined July 2009
United States184 Posts
August 04 2023 16:24 GMT
#44
ya'll are missing the point, no solution will work if there's no one at blizz u can even talk to for this. there is 0 investment in this game at this point.
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Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
August 04 2023 16:29 GMT
#45
I like the idea of following ASL map pool.
You could try out map specific builds that you saw your favourite progamer use.
And this should be simple enough for blizzard.
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5755 Posts
August 04 2023 16:56 GMT
#46
They should just hand the game over to the community.
sophisticated
Profile Joined October 2021
60 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-06 08:52:30
August 06 2023 08:40 GMT
#47
On August 05 2023 01:56 maybenexttime wrote:
They should just hand the game over to the community.

"We don't do that kind of thing anymore." (seriously, what big company has a story for "what happens to this game once we stop putting any manhours into it?") Shield Battery is the only hope.

I recommend reading the blizzard forums thread that was linked on the last page btw. Some info from the (volunteer non-employed) forum moderator about how this is run. Internet archive mirror (partial)
Leonix
Profile Joined June 2019
161 Posts
August 06 2023 12:54 GMT
#48
Why dont you write them a e-mail?
BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria1169 Posts
August 07 2023 08:21 GMT
#49
On August 06 2023 21:54 Leonix wrote:
Why dont you write them a e-mail?


There is nobody to email.

Bobby Kotick is busy drinking cocktails by the beach while the volunteers 'work'. Not sure if anyone is really working in this company anymore. (Other than monetization managers obviously...)

- if you have suggestions about someone to email, feel free to go ahead
Leader of the Bulgarian National SCBW/SC2 team and team pSi.SCBW/SC2
hgfrzthgffg
Profile Joined August 2023
7 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-07 09:53:49
August 07 2023 09:53 GMT
#50
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BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria1169 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-07 10:59:35
August 07 2023 09:59 GMT
#51
On August 07 2023 18:53 hgfrzthgffg wrote:
*mod edit*


Oh I see, they pay trolls around the web. That's where the money goes.

P.S. Bobby is that you?
Leader of the Bulgarian National SCBW/SC2 team and team pSi.SCBW/SC2
hgfrzthgffg
Profile Joined August 2023
7 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-07 10:07:31
August 07 2023 10:04 GMT
#52
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BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria1169 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-07 11:00:22
August 07 2023 10:12 GMT
#53
On August 07 2023 19:04 hgfrzthgffg wrote:
*mod edit*

Dude, you are silly. We all payed for a product before it being fully delivered. That's the only thing we are guilty of.

Me and everyone else here payed for this thing. Go play minecraft, this is starcraft.
Leader of the Bulgarian National SCBW/SC2 team and team pSi.SCBW/SC2
hgfrzthgffg
Profile Joined August 2023
7 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-07 10:20:04
August 07 2023 10:18 GMT
#54
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BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria1169 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-07 11:01:34
August 07 2023 10:19 GMT
#55
On August 07 2023 19:18 hgfrzthgffg wrote:
*mod edit*


2v2 ladder
clan support
axed chat commands and functionalities that were available with SC:BW
the list goes on
Leader of the Bulgarian National SCBW/SC2 team and team pSi.SCBW/SC2
hgfrzthgffg
Profile Joined August 2023
7 Posts
August 07 2023 10:20 GMT
#56
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BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria1169 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-07 11:02:19
August 07 2023 10:22 GMT
#57
On August 07 2023 19:20 hgfrzthgffg wrote:
*mod edit*


This page can be updated at any moment. You can take a deep dive into some of their promises here: https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/starcraft/t/starcraft-remastered-consumer-recap-of-2019/951

Leader of the Bulgarian National SCBW/SC2 team and team pSi.SCBW/SC2
hgfrzthgffg
Profile Joined August 2023
7 Posts
August 07 2023 10:23 GMT
#58
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BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria1169 Posts
August 07 2023 10:24 GMT
#59
We payed for these promises. Otherwise everyone would stick to Fish and ICCUP.
Leader of the Bulgarian National SCBW/SC2 team and team pSi.SCBW/SC2
hgfrzthgffg
Profile Joined August 2023
7 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-07 10:39:34
August 07 2023 10:31 GMT
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