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On January 07 2022 00:47 Puosu wrote:Show nested quote +What do you think about the development of the RTS genre in the future?
A: I think the RTS games that will last for a long time are SC2 and WC3, because they have an influx of new players in both the Korean and foreign scenes. The same cannot be said about SC1. Both the Korean and foreign scenes need support to attract new players and extend their lives. I know that BW isn't so popular with younger people, but I'm really surprised that FlaSh thinks that WC3 is doing better in this regard. Is WC3 doing well in Korea now?
Not sure about Korea but WC3 has an extremely strong scene in China which might be what Flash is referring to.
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On January 07 2022 00:47 Puosu wrote:Show nested quote +What do you think about the development of the RTS genre in the future?
A: I think the RTS games that will last for a long time are SC2 and WC3, because they have an influx of new players in both the Korean and foreign scenes. The same cannot be said about SC1. Both the Korean and foreign scenes need support to attract new players and extend their lives. I know that BW isn't so popular with younger people, but I'm really surprised that FlaSh thinks that WC3 is doing better in this regard. Is WC3 doing well in Korea now? it's doing decently well, afreecaTV is hosting at least 2-3 big tournaments a year for pro players. dunno about the amateur aspect but it seems to be doing okay. idk if it's bigger than the BW player pool though.. doubt it, tbh.
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Damn they should have asked FlaSh about Age of Empires IV. I hear sc2 progamers are switching to that game.
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Sad to hear that flash and Irene (jaedong soup girl) broke up
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On January 07 2022 04:46 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2022 04:11 ox.tQ wrote: Cool interview. But some pretty odd questions asked of him.
How could Flash possibly have a university (assuming the interviewer meant an undergraduate or Master's?) degree, let alone a doctorate of philosophy which takes a minimum of ten years of full-time study to obtain? He's been a full-time gamer for most, if not all, of his adult life.
A few other questions seemed to be irrelevant or just plain "filler" questions which is too bad given how important and exclusive this opportunity to interview Flash was and the small number of questions posed. For example, the ones asking him about pets or carrots.
Some of the other questions were quite good, fortunately, though I wish Flash was prodded a little bit more to stick around longer to answer more questions or to elaborate.
It would be much more cool (to me at least) to read interviews with foreigners. Sorry for committing blasphemy but I never cared too much about the pro-gamer scene. It is a one sided relationship meaning there is no community or individual there to engage back with you and so not my cup of tea as I enjoy human contact and reciprocity. I would volunteer to interview foreigners of course but I think my name appears on this forum a bit too much as it is. I will if no one else steps up to the job.
Thanks for the interview transcript and hopefully my feedback did not come across as too harsh. There are actually quite a few interviews of foreigners already on the site; they just don't attract as much attention, usually, so they get pushed down the sidebar pretty quickly IMO. https://tl.net/forum/search.php?q=interview&t=t&f=6&u=&gb=date&d=
Thank you for the link. Some of these I did not know about. I will check them out before bed
I'm sure we could interview some more people. They deserve it and if they were to disappear, it would be a shame not to archive and celebrate their stature. The foreign community is very, very special indeed
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On January 07 2022 05:11 M3t4PhYzX wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2022 00:47 Puosu wrote:What do you think about the development of the RTS genre in the future?
A: I think the RTS games that will last for a long time are SC2 and WC3, because they have an influx of new players in both the Korean and foreign scenes. The same cannot be said about SC1. Both the Korean and foreign scenes need support to attract new players and extend their lives. I know that BW isn't so popular with younger people, but I'm really surprised that FlaSh thinks that WC3 is doing better in this regard. Is WC3 doing well in Korea now? it's doing decently well, afreecaTV is hosting at least 2-3 big tournaments a year for pro players. dunno about the amateur aspect but it seems to be doing okay. idk if it's bigger than the BW player pool though.. doubt it, tbh.
All of the money that Afreeca puts into the SC2 events are Blizzard's money.
With no Blizzard involvement there is no SC2 content on that platform.
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On January 07 2022 04:46 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2022 04:11 ox.tQ wrote:
It would be much more cool (to me at least) to read interviews with foreigners. Sorry for committing blasphemy but I never cared too much about the pro-gamer scene. It is a one sided relationship meaning there is no community or individual there to engage back with you and so not my cup of tea as I enjoy human contact and reciprocity. I would volunteer to interview foreigners of course but I think my name appears on this forum a bit too much as it is. I will if no one else steps up to the job.
Thanks for the interview transcript and hopefully my feedback did not come across as too harsh. There are actually quite a few interviews of foreigners already on the site; they just don't attract as much attention, usually, so they get pushed down the sidebar pretty quickly IMO. https://tl.net/forum/search.php?q=interview&t=t&f=6&u=&gb=date&d=
The analogy here is if ESPN all of sudden started being obsessed with G-League teams over the stars in the NBA, because of some random trait like charisma etc..
BW is a skill-game. The most skilled will get all the attention. Even its most notorious troll (Larva) is a an all-time beast of a player FIRST.
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Awesome interview, I've been out of the loop for a while , can anyone update on the crpyto scandal he is reffering to?
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On January 07 2022 06:58 oxKnu wrote: All of the money that Afreeca puts into the SC2 events are Blizzard's money.
With no Blizzard involvement there is no SC2 content on that platform.
Source?
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On January 07 2022 06:58 oxKnu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2022 05:11 M3t4PhYzX wrote:On January 07 2022 00:47 Puosu wrote:What do you think about the development of the RTS genre in the future?
A: I think the RTS games that will last for a long time are SC2 and WC3, because they have an influx of new players in both the Korean and foreign scenes. The same cannot be said about SC1. Both the Korean and foreign scenes need support to attract new players and extend their lives. I know that BW isn't so popular with younger people, but I'm really surprised that FlaSh thinks that WC3 is doing better in this regard. Is WC3 doing well in Korea now? it's doing decently well, afreecaTV is hosting at least 2-3 big tournaments a year for pro players. dunno about the amateur aspect but it seems to be doing okay. idk if it's bigger than the BW player pool though.. doubt it, tbh. All of the money that Afreeca puts into the SC2 events are Blizzard's money. With no Blizzard involvement there is no SC2 content on that platform. I was talking about WC3, because he asked.
But I agree with you about SC2 anyways.
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i find his comments on sc2 strange, because the korean scene for sc2 is pretty much dead. it's so dead in fact that koreans have started playing on NA. i couldn't even get a game on KR as a diamond player last time i tried it. meanwhile, brood war is supposedly making a huge comeback and the online user count reflects this second wave.
am i misinformed?
and yeah.. i'd like to know what he has to say about the crypto scandal other than that he's sorry, but oh well. thanks for the translation.
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On January 07 2022 08:07 MineraIs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2022 06:58 oxKnu wrote: All of the money that Afreeca puts into the SC2 events are Blizzard's money.
With no Blizzard involvement there is no SC2 content on that platform.
Source?
There is no official one, no reason to why those details would be public. However it's something that everyone that has been around for awhile knows about. Artosis has talked about it and it comes up whenever Blizzard gives the impression that they might pull out of SC2 completely, like before that ESL deal was put into place 1-2 years ago, about the same time when KSL was cancelled.
Blizzard sponsors the prize-pool and "partners" with Afreeca to host and organize the tournament.
Conversely, everything Broodwar, like ASL is 100% paid by Afreeca, sometimes -around the Remastered launch- even being taxed by Blizzard with tournament fees (that actually exceeded the total prizepool of the tournaments back then). There's a TL thread that talks about it too.
I know Afreeca managed to get some side sponsorships for the SC2 events too, but those are rather infrequent and come and go a lot of the time.
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On January 07 2022 08:27 lost dedicated wrote: i find his comments on sc2 strange, because the korean scene for sc2 is pretty much dead. it's so dead in fact that koreans have started playing on NA. i couldn't even get a game on KR as a diamond player last time i tried it. meanwhile, brood war is supposedly making a huge comeback and the online user count reflects this second wave.
am i misinformed?
and yeah.. i'd like to know what he has to say about the crypto scandal other than that he's sorry, but oh well. thanks for the translation.
I think I might have an explanation on his thoughts on that matter.
I believe he's mostly talking about it from the point of view of the pros. Not the actual playing population/audience. He's basically saying that SC2 pros could sustain themselves playing that game as long as there are events, they don't depend on streaming much.
Blizzard has artificially sustained that scene for a long time. Obviously in the early days there was A LOT of money flying around in SC2, and the vast majority of players that are at the top from Korea right now are dinosaurs from that era that have events that they can play in year-round. (plus team sponsorships etc).
Even SC2 fans though, kind of know that the game has been dead in Korea for a couple of years now. But there is enough support coming from elsewhere that sustains those pros, and the security blanket that comes with ESL/Blizzard announcing 2-year long partnerships is something that is meaningful in the grand scheme of things.
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nice interview, tho i concur with a previous poster that its a tad too impersonal. like the first question is rather rude fishing if u followed the scene and know he has broken up not too long ago.
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Lol humble god is an oxymoron.
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Nice this seems to be quite recent. Hopefully the fans can forgive and move on from the incident.
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when was this interview conducted? pretty bland interview tbh. hes been involved in a massive scandal recently and his future in streaming is uncertain at the moment yet the interview only asks the typical generic stuff weve probably already seen from his past interviews.
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On January 07 2022 05:11 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: Damn they should have asked FlaSh about Age of Empires IV. I hear sc2 progamers are switching to that game. Several AoE players go back to AoE2 so AoE IV probably won't do too well when the new effect wears off Barely any sc2 progamers are switching to AoE4, in EU the most notable is MarineLord but he was not the most active sc2 pro even before the release of AoE4. Other than that would be streamer/caster Demuslim but he has not been a sc2 progamer for years. In Korea one of the only players I see from sc2 is Leenock, but he was not very successful in sc2 nowadays
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