EPTI've been researching into mech keyboards a lot lately and I was wondering what keyboards top players like Flash, Snow, Larva use? What is popular in Korea for SC progamers?
Does anyone know top progamers' keyboard
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relieve19
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I've been researching into mech keyboards a lot lately and I was wondering what keyboards top players like Flash, Snow, Larva use? What is popular in Korea for SC progamers? | ||
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bovienchien
Vietnam1152 Posts
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relieve19
4 Posts
On July 22 2021 00:15 bovienchien wrote: I think almost pro gamers use Leopold keyboard. I am using Leopold FC750R Interesting. I read that is a top Korean brand. What cherry mx switches are you using? I'm currently using browns and after long matches (30+ minutes, 250 APM) my fingers feel like they are about to fall off. I heard reds are much lighter but that also causes accidental key presses which of course is bad for RTS. | ||
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Cheesefome
314 Posts
For RTS you want keys that are lighter to push down. I used to think the loud switches were really cool when playing starcraft but take my word for it, when you go with reds or anything as light as reds you'll wonder how you played on blues for so long. | ||
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Puosu
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8865 Posts
On July 22 2021 00:36 Cheesefome wrote: Just use anything lighter than reds, i had blues and it was an absolute nightmare. Honestly keyboards are just a matter of preference, you will do perfectly fine with a regular walmart keyboard as long as it isn't one of those flat keys that are similar to laptops cause they are mega hard to press. For RTS you want keys that are lighter to push down. I used to think the loud switches were really cool when playing starcraft but take my word for it, when you go with reds or anything as light as reds you'll wonder how you played on blues for so long. i disagree on the "lighter the better" argument. i had reds and absolutely hated gaming with them. i even hated everyday use with it also for the same reason, accidental key presses were far too easy. i dont like blues because the sound is too obnoxious but id take blues over reds any day. normally id use browns but now using romer g and im quite satisfied with them. | ||
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bovienchien
Vietnam1152 Posts
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outscar
2832 Posts
Personally for StarCraft I still like rubber dome. 99% used QSENN (sometimes Samsung) DT-35 on KeSPA era, it was recognized as SC keyboard in Korea. FlaSh still uses it. Lately many pros are switching to mechanical. Not sure about the reason but knowing how many of them having injures it's maybe because they think mechanical is easier to press, less pressure so fingers won't get tired quickly? | ||
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Cheesefome
314 Posts
On July 22 2021 01:28 evilfatsh1t wrote: i disagree on the "lighter the better" argument. i had reds and absolutely hated gaming with them. i even hated everyday use with it also for the same reason, accidental key presses were far too easy. i dont like blues because the sound is too obnoxious but id take blues over reds any day. normally id use browns but now using romer g and im quite satisfied with them. For any other game its fine for starcraft its horrible. I loved blues for RPGMMORPGS. The only time I preferred reds were for RTS. How do you accidentally click a key, ive never encountered that issue ever lol.... didn't even know that was a thing. I can understand every blue moon you accidentally push a key but for it to be an issue I think that is more about your hand positioning and the height of your desk/chair. All my hand pressure is applied on my palm and elbow on my chair. BTW didnt mean to say lighter than reds, meant to say around the same lightness as red switches is great for RTS cause of how much you use your keyboard. | ||
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Cheesefome
314 Posts
On July 22 2021 02:38 bovienchien wrote: I use blue switch but I like to hear sound from brown switch. When I buy a new keyboard, I will choose brown switch. Trust me, if you plan to play starcraft for long periods of time I would HIGHLY suggest from going blue switches. Just not ideal for RTS. Not to mention the fact that people within your gaming station will quickly be annoyed by all the clicking. Those blue clicks get obnoxious after a while I can only imagine what it's like for someone within you vicinity. I literally gave mine away, it was brand spanking new keyboard but after some time it just didn't make sense to use it for starcraft. Casual use is fine I guess. | ||
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Purressure
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LaStScan
Korea (South)1289 Posts
Action: Leopold FC750R Red / Thinkway Mini Last: Leopold FC750R Brown / FKmini2 Best: Leopold FC750R Brown / Logitech G100S Soma: Leopold FC750R Silent Red / FKmini3 Mini: DT35 / Logitech G9X Bisu: DT35 / Logitech Mini(changed to G303 sensor) Flash: DT35 / Zowie Mico Light: Leopold FC750R Brown / Logitech G Pro SnOw: Filco Majestouch Brown / Logitech G102 Rain: Leopold FC750R Brown / Zowie Mico Sharp: DT35(I heard he uses Mechanical nowadays) / FKmini2(Old data) Larva: Leopold FC750R Red / Zowie Mico HyuK: Red Switches / Logitech G102 Rush: Leopold FC750R Red / FKmini3 Stork: RealForce R2 45g / Logitech G Pro Motive: DT35 / Logitech G102 Ample: Topre Switches / FKmini3 Barracks: Red Switches / FKmini3 Scan: Leopold FC750R Red / FKmini3 Hm: Topre Switches / ?? ZeLoT: ?? / Logitech G102 RoyaL: ?? / Zowie Mico yoon: Abko Hackers ?? Switches / G102 yabsab: DT35 / ?? RideSky: DT35 / FKmini2 ss1nz: DT35 / Logitech G102 Edit: I added space line so people can read it easier. Some of Pros switched from FKmini2 to FKmini3 and I don't know which ones did(I can't update every single one of them) | ||
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QuadroX
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P.S. Personally I think soft keyboards like NIZ Plum that Artosis is using (35g rubber dome/topre) are the most comfortable. Was going back and forth and always returned to the comfy feeling of rubber domes. | ||
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
On July 22 2021 01:28 evilfatsh1t wrote: i disagree on the "lighter the better" argument. i had reds and absolutely hated gaming with them. i even hated everyday use with it also for the same reason, accidental key presses were far too easy. i dont like blues because the sound is too obnoxious but id take blues over reds any day. normally id use browns but now using romer g and im quite satisfied with them. Blacks are the same mechanism as reds, but you have to press much harder (relatively speaking) to achieve an activation. I've been using them for a while and I like them quite a lot, but that's just personal opinion. I never got to try out reds, too... Besides, even with all the hype of mechanical keyboards, I still bottom out membrane style. I bought my keyboard for the durability, it hasn't really given me a noticeable difference in performance. P.S. I don't know if blacks are still available, as I understand, the cherry MX licence fell off a while ago and it's a wild west nowadays out there, unless something has changed. | ||
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XenOsky
Chile2356 Posts
On July 22 2021 09:48 LaStScan wrote: Queen: Leopold FC900R Red / FKmini2 Action: Leopold FC750R Red / Thinkway Mini Last: Leopold FC750R Brown / FKmini2 Best: Leopold FC750R Brown / Logitech G100S Soma: Leopold FC750R Silent Red / FKmini3 Mini: DT35 / Logitech G9X Bisu: DT35 / Logitech Mini(changed to G303 sensor) Flash: DT35 / Zowie Mico Light: Leopold FC750R Brown / Logitech G Pro SnOw: Filco Majestouch Brown / Logitech G102 Rain: Leopold FC750R Brown / Zowie Mico Sharp: DT35(I heard he uses Mechanical nowadays) / FKmini2(Old data) Larva: Leopold FC750R Red / Zowie Mico HyuK: Red Switches / Logitech G102 Rush: Leopold FC750R Red / FKmini3 Stork: RealForce R2 45g / Logitech G Pro Motive: DT35 / Logitech G102 Ample: Topre Switches / FKmini3 Barracks: Red Switches / FKmini3 Scan: Leopold FC750R Red / FKmini3 Hm: Topre Switches / ?? ZeLoT: ?? / Logitech G102 RoyaL: ?? / Zowie Mico yoon: Abko Hackers ?? Switches / G102 yabsab: DT35 / ?? RideSky: DT35 / FKmini2 ss1nz: DT35 / Logitech G102 Edit: I added space line so people can read it easier. Some of Pros switched from FKmini2 to FKmini3 and I don't know which ones did(I can't update every single one of them) wow, people still using DT35, must be GOAT Keyboard | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8865 Posts
On July 23 2021 05:30 Nikon wrote: Blacks are the same mechanism as reds, but you have to press much harder (relatively speaking) to achieve an activation. I've been using them for a while and I like them quite a lot, but that's just personal opinion. I never got to try out reds, too... Besides, even with all the hype of mechanical keyboards, I still bottom out membrane style. I bought my keyboard for the durability, it hasn't really given me a noticeable difference in performance. P.S. I don't know if blacks are still available, as I understand, the cherry MX licence fell off a while ago and it's a wild west nowadays out there, unless something has changed. im actually curious how many people who switched from membrane to mechanical dont bottom out? ive tried to "train" myself to only press to the required actuation point and it just wasnt doable. like you i bottom out on every key press on every keyboard ever; it just feels so unnatural to only go down halfway | ||
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krocan.cz
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iFU.pauline
France1715 Posts
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oxKnu
1259 Posts
On July 23 2021 18:17 krocan.cz wrote: What is so special in Leopold FC750R, that so many pro use it? It's the cheapest "good" mechanical keyboard in the world. | ||
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Akio
Finland1838 Posts
On July 23 2021 08:10 XenOsky wrote: wow, people still using DT35, must be GOAT Keyboard It's so hard to find a good membrane keyboard in this day and age that I'm not surprised they still use the QSENN for the old feels. | ||
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Purressure
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
On July 23 2021 17:50 evilfatsh1t wrote: im actually curious how many people who switched from membrane to mechanical dont bottom out? ive tried to "train" myself to only press to the required actuation point and it just wasnt doable. like you i bottom out on every key press on every keyboard ever; it just feels so unnatural to only go down halfway I didn't even attempt to train myself to hit the activation spot, just carried on as normal. If I wanted to do that I'd have gotten a keyboard that has a tactile response, however it's my personal opinion that those are horrible for gaming in the first place. What you want ideally is switches with lower max travel distance, now that would make a difference. I don't know if they exist, though. On July 24 2021 04:08 Purressure wrote: Used blacks for a few months, went Red and never looked back ever since, it's a massive difference, technically yes they have the same mechanism but they're two different worlds. Grinding APM heavy games with blacks is competitive finger torture compared to Reds where you can grind games for hours and barely have any finger fatigue. Maybe my fingers were weak noodles but still, they're so different it's not even funny. It very well maybe be that you're just way faster than I am. That does make a difference too, and I generally hover around 140. If you're going even at 200 it's going to pressure you physically a lot more. Then again, maybe my ligaments are more sturdy, or there's something else, I just don't know. | ||
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Aneres
United States3 Posts
On July 22 2021 09:48 LaStScan wrote: Sharp: DT35(I heard he uses Mechanical nowadays) / FKmini2(Old data) Yah I asked Sharp on his stream recently what switches he uses since they seemed kinda loud and he said Browns. What you want ideally is switches with lower max travel distance, now that would make a difference. I don't know if they exist, though. MX Speed (Silver) switches. I have a Corsair K70 with em and it's pretty great for RTS. Double tapping on tactile switches is awful. | ||
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SamirDuran
Philippines895 Posts
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Cheesefome
314 Posts
Anyway I just wanted to test out the hype so I decided to finally buy a keyboard with brown switches this weekend. Not for me and I would still suggest people sticking to red switches if you plan to play games in your death bed lol. | ||
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Crimson)S(hadow
Philippines694 Posts
for non-zergs and zergs who don’t want to destroy their hands with double muta micro, theres no other reason to use it other than maybe being able to click things generally faster since your hands have to travel less | ||
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neptunusfisk
2286 Posts
On July 22 2021 09:48 LaStScan wrote: Queen: Leopold FC900R Red / FKmini2 Action: Leopold FC750R Red / Thinkway Mini Last: Leopold FC750R Brown / FKmini2 Best: Leopold FC750R Brown / Logitech G100S Soma: Leopold FC750R Silent Red / FKmini3 Wow so like 8 x red 5 x brown 8 x dt35 and 9 x fkmini 6 x G102 | ||
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LegendaryDreams
Canada1350 Posts
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sas.Sziky
Hungary334 Posts
On August 02 2021 21:54 LegendaryDreams wrote: Is it possible to buy a fkmini outside of Korea? here you can https://www.newbecca.com/product/528101263029 | ||
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Purressure
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Purressure
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Crimson)S(hadow
Philippines694 Posts
edit: nvm, i was looking at old vods... found more recent vods and it sounds like a mech keyboard | ||
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