EPTFlaSh going to army in 3 weeks - Page 3
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BreakfastBurrito
United States893 Posts
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riotjune
United States3394 Posts
The year will be over before you know it, he'll be back. | ||
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att
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Vindicare605
United States16127 Posts
So far the South Korean government has not been able to be reached for comment, but independent reports show that South Korean soldier morale is at all time high. This has been Vindicare605 and this has been a sarcastic news report. Good luck Flash. See you when you get back. | ||
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Kurte_Idumin
Australia22 Posts
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Ctesias
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Good luck to Flash in the military too. | ||
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Riner1212
United States337 Posts
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DSK
England1110 Posts
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greenturtle23
86 Posts
I like that everyone goes. Exceptions are lame. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16127 Posts
On April 18 2021 08:43 greenturtle23 wrote: I like that everyone goes. Exceptions are lame. If i was a Korean citizen (I'm not) it would only make me admire someone more that they didn't try and skip out on the thing that every man has to do just because they were famous. If the US still had a mandatory draft I'd feel the same way. If I have to go, you have to go, if you get to skip out for some lame reason I'd be upset about it. | ||
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Scaramanga
Australia8093 Posts
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
On April 18 2021 09:03 Vindicare605 wrote: If i was a Korean citizen (I'm not) it would only make me admire someone more that they didn't try and skip out on the thing that every man has to do just because they were famous. If the US still had a mandatory draft I'd feel the same way. If I have to go, you have to go, if you get to skip out for some lame reason I'd be upset about it. Yes from what I’ve heard there odd indeed a social expectation and camaraderie for going | ||
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ggsimida
1156 Posts
On April 18 2021 09:03 Vindicare605 wrote: If i was a Korean citizen (I'm not) it would only make me admire someone more that they didn't try and skip out on the thing that every man has to do just because they were famous. If the US still had a mandatory draft I'd feel the same way. If I have to go, you have to go, if you get to skip out for some lame reason I'd be upset about it. easy for an average person and/or someone not from a conscription country to say pfft | ||
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Ikirouta
Finland747 Posts
On April 18 2021 09:03 Vindicare605 wrote: If i was a Korean citizen (I'm not) it would only make me admire someone more that they didn't try and skip out on the thing that every man has to do just because they were famous. If the US still had a mandatory draft I'd feel the same way. If I have to go, you have to go, if you get to skip out for some lame reason I'd be upset about it. Rofl. Think about it from the militarys perspective, if someone is a pro athelete or whatever, skipping one year of training could ruin the rest of their career, and from armys perspective they are just 1 more person, people are a resource to the military and if one has a good reason to not do it its acceptable. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16127 Posts
On April 18 2021 14:40 Ikirouta wrote: Rofl. Think about it from the militarys perspective, if someone is a pro athelete or whatever, skipping one year of training could ruin the rest of their career, and from armys perspective they are just 1 more person, people are a resource to the military and if one has a good reason to not do it its acceptable. Doing military service doesn't mean you have to be a frontline soldier, there are other jobs you can do. A Korean friend of mine I worked with for a year in the US said he did his South Korean military service in the mess hall, which explained why he was so fast in the kitchen. Just because you have to go doesn't mean everyone gets the same job. That's not how it works. AND besides the reason there's a mandatory draft in the first place is because they are in a state of war with the North and if the North invaded EVERY man of military age would be called to fight anyway, the ones doing their military service now are just the ones that would be deployed first so it doesn't make a difference what shape someone is in going into the service they'd be conscripted anyway. And to the guy above you, I know how conscripted armies work, don't think I'm ignorant just because my country doesn't have an active draft. I had to sign up for mandatory selective service when I turned 18 just like everyone else did just IN CASE we put in a draft tomorrow. And South Korea is in a very different situation than the US is, where they could be actively invaded at any time (not realistically but still) so there is a very different view of the military over there than there is over here. I don't have to live there to understand that. | ||
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ggsimida
1156 Posts
On April 18 2021 15:18 Vindicare605 wrote: Doing military service doesn't mean you have to be a frontline soldier, there are other jobs you can do. A Korean friend of mine I worked with for a year in the US said he did his South Korean military service in the mess hall, which explained why he was so fast in the kitchen. Just because you have to go doesn't mean everyone gets the same job. That's not how it works. AND besides the reason there's a mandatory draft in the first place is because they are in a state of war with the North and if the North invaded EVERY man of military age would be called to fight anyway, the ones doing their military service now are just the ones that would be deployed first so it doesn't make a difference what shape someone is in going into the service they'd be conscripted anyway. And to the guy above you, I know how conscripted armies work, don't think I'm ignorant just because my country doesn't have an active draft. I had to sign up for mandatory selective service when I turned 18 just like everyone else did just IN CASE we put in a draft tomorrow. And South Korea is in a very different situation than the US is, where they could be actively invaded at any time (not realistically but still) so there is a very different view of the military over there than there is over here. I don't have to live there to understand that. yes just like plenty of people you hold a archaic view of what "national service" entails. one doesnt have to be a soldier or a mess cook, an athlete or competitor representing his country in an international tournament and achiveing results is effectively up holding the pride and prestige of their country in a different way. its also a better allocation of their talent than forcing them to be a cook or even a lieutenant which any randomo can do. theres insane amount of hard work and strategizing to just be competitive in their respective fields way more than an average soldier will ever experience or comprehend. SK knows that and they do grant exemptions to exceptional olympic talent unlike what you imply or wish for. only thing i smell is your tall poppy syndrome. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16127 Posts
On April 18 2021 15:43 ggsimida wrote: yes just like plenty of people you hold a archaic view of what "national service" entails. one doesnt have to be a soldier or a mess cook, an athlete or competitor representing his country in an international tournament and achiveing results is effectively up holding the pride and prestige of their country in a different way. . You are completely missing the point of South Korea's mandatory military service policy. It has nothing to do with national pride, the country is LITERALLY in a state of war with the North. People are conscripted for mandatory military service so that South Korea maintains at all times an active military force ready to be deployed at any moment. Being a cook in the army maintains the army. It allows the men that are soldiers to be ready to fight at top condition at a moment's notice if they are needed. Being an athlete is not the same thing, it has nothing to do with the logistics of the military. You can represent your country sure, but that's not what mandatory military service is. You're trying to impart ideals of what "service" means on a country that is in a different situation than you are. I'm not. I'm putting myself in the shoes of someone living in Korea as it is now, not the way you think it should be. | ||
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tigera6
3516 Posts
On April 18 2021 13:25 Scaramanga wrote: Sounds like if you're in public service you're not allowed to stream? If you're in public service and staying at your own place surely you'd be allowed to stream when you're not working You are not allowed to make money while doing the military service. So players cant stream but they can still play on ladder, I believe. | ||
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GoSuNamhciR
126 Posts
On April 15 2021 20:12 Archeon wrote: Because they are actually threatened by NK, so they need a somewhat large army and people they can draft in case of war. Like NK would need to be insane to attack SK, but Kim kinda fits the bill. And NK has a large standing army and hostile diplomacy. Not quite sure NK would be insane for attacking SK. The USA is weaker than China in the region and most recent war models show that we would lose every war in the Pacific and in Asia against China. If China backs NK, then they wouldn't be insane, they would win. It would probably kick off WW3 though, so I don't see it happening as it wouldn't be worth it for China or the US. Here's to hoping Flash gets healthy and comes back stronger than ever, my fav BW player by far. | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
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