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FlaSh going to army in 3 weeks

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jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1418 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-22 10:52:22
April 15 2021 09:00 GMT
#1
https://bj.afreecatv.com/byflash/post/71182400

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이사 이제 끝냈어요

몸도 너무 안좋았구 인터넷 설치하구

내일이라도 방송 킬수 있도록 하겠습니다

시간이 3주정도 남았네요...

생각보다 방송키는게 늦어져서 이렇게 남겨요..



I have finished moving
my body condition wasn't the best and installing internet took time
I should be able to stream tomorrow
I have around 3 weeks left///
I'm streaming later than I thought so I'm leaving this


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NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3094 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-15 05:42:28
April 15 2021 05:42 GMT
#2
Thanks for the translation Jinjin. Hope his military service goes well.
Artosis loves Starcraft
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4126 Posts
April 15 2021 06:10 GMT
#3
Oh dam, sad to see him leave but I guess it was only a matter of time. All the best and we'll be waiting for your return!!!
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10141 Posts
April 15 2021 06:20 GMT
#4
Really sad but he'll be back one day. Good luck in military service Flash! o7
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
April 15 2021 06:25 GMT
#5
hope the time off helps his wrists.
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2037 Posts
April 15 2021 07:26 GMT
#6
Nooo! End of an Era. (even if for 1 year)

Dark days for terran incoming. ;-)
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superjoppe
Profile Joined December 2004
Sweden3683 Posts
April 15 2021 07:49 GMT
#7
On April 15 2021 16:26 kogeT wrote:
Dark days for terran incoming. ;-)

ZvZ finals incoming until he returns :O
Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway685 Posts
April 15 2021 07:54 GMT
#8
On April 15 2021 15:25 thedeadhaji wrote:
hope the time off helps his wrists.

Yeah this might be a good thing. Good luck to him and let’s hope his wrists recover.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
April 15 2021 08:11 GMT
#9
On April 15 2021 16:26 kogeT wrote:
Nooo! End of an Era. (even if for 1 year)

Dark days for terran incoming. ;-)


Is it only 1 year? I've never heard of South Korean military service being that short. Is it a special circumstance in light of his surgery/injuries?
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1179 Posts
April 15 2021 08:58 GMT
#10
I think mandatory service is 1 yr and 6 months now.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
April 15 2021 08:59 GMT
#11
I always thought he was exempt for some reason. Best of luck to him. Thanks for translating jinjin.

On April 15 2021 17:11 thedeadhaji wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2021 16:26 kogeT wrote:
Nooo! End of an Era. (even if for 1 year)

Dark days for terran incoming. ;-)


Is it only 1 year? I've never heard of South Korean military service being that short. Is it a special circumstance in light of his surgery/injuries?

It was reduced to 1 year last year if I'm not mistaken.
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Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4126 Posts
April 15 2021 09:00 GMT
#12
On April 15 2021 17:58 oxKnu wrote:
I think mandatory service is 1 yr and 6 months now.


That's actually quite short, it'll go by in no time.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
April 15 2021 09:03 GMT
#13
North Korea is so screwed.
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Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
April 15 2021 09:04 GMT
#14
So it's finally time huh? Best of luck to him. Hopefully we see him return gloriously with Terran to beat the reigning Zergs (and maybe Protosses)
Mine gas, build tanks.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4175 Posts
April 15 2021 09:37 GMT
#15
bye bye to FlaShuuu.. but a super short one, so it's no biggie.

hope when he finishes his service, he'll be able to play at least couple more tournaments
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
April 15 2021 09:48 GMT
#16
Dark days for Random incoming.

2021 is such a bloodbath though.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
structuralinertia
Profile Joined June 2009
Australia1426 Posts
April 15 2021 09:50 GMT
#17
If only proleague still existed - what a recruit he'd be for Airforce Ace
SamirDuran
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines894 Posts
April 15 2021 09:55 GMT
#18
so BaBy and FlaSh together in military huh?
Don't practice until you can get it right, practice until you can't get it wrong.
BonitiilloO
Profile Joined June 2013
Dominican Republic614 Posts
April 15 2021 11:01 GMT
#19
why do people needs to do military service in korea?
How may help u?
Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3253 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-15 11:14:52
April 15 2021 11:12 GMT
#20
On April 15 2021 20:01 BonitiilloO wrote:
why do people needs to do military service in korea?

Because they are actually threatened by NK, so they need a somewhat large army and people they can draft in case of war.

Like NK would need to be insane to attack SK, but Kim kinda fits the bill. And NK has a large standing army and hostile diplomacy.
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-15 12:20:33
April 15 2021 12:18 GMT
#21
oh well it's a good time to go to the military too I guess, since he's proven himself and he's now injured. Hopefully he gets to recover and destroy everyone as random.

On April 15 2021 18:48 sneakyfox wrote:
Dark days for Random incoming.

2021 is such a bloodbath though.

hahahaha
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tommey.liang
Profile Joined November 2020
United States362 Posts
April 15 2021 12:27 GMT
#22
Wishing Flash all the best as he embarks into military service.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50114 Posts
April 15 2021 12:55 GMT
#23
not the worst time to do it.
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Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9016 Posts
April 15 2021 14:03 GMT
#24
This is literally the best time to go, at least for him.
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
April 15 2021 14:40 GMT
#25
NOOOO! Didn't doctor said with condition of his wrist he should be exempt? Guess it's about time for him to become general. Good luck Lee Young Ho!
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8639 Posts
April 15 2021 14:42 GMT
#26
On April 15 2021 17:59 BigFan wrote:
I always thought he was exempt for some reason. Best of luck to him. Thanks for translating jinjin.

Show nested quote +
On April 15 2021 17:11 thedeadhaji wrote:
On April 15 2021 16:26 kogeT wrote:
Nooo! End of an Era. (even if for 1 year)

Dark days for terran incoming. ;-)


Is it only 1 year? I've never heard of South Korean military service being that short. Is it a special circumstance in light of his surgery/injuries?

It was reduced to 1 year last year if I'm not mistaken.

the shortest term is 1.5 years (army).
ox.tQ
Profile Joined November 2010
794 Posts
April 15 2021 16:20 GMT
#27
For Aiur!
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
April 15 2021 18:08 GMT
#28
Noooo
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Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States873 Posts
April 15 2021 20:39 GMT
#29
On April 15 2021 17:59 BigFan wrote:
I always thought he was exempt for some reason.


He should be. National hero and all.
"You know, I don't care if soO got 100 second places in a row. Anyone who doesn't think that he's going to win blizzcon watching this series is a fool" - Artosis, Blizzcon 2014 soO vs TaeJa
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States652 Posts
April 15 2021 20:45 GMT
#30
On April 16 2021 05:39 Kitai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2021 17:59 BigFan wrote:
I always thought he was exempt for some reason.


He should be. National hero and all.


Savior says No, you gotta go do your time my dude. I hope this is not too troll of a guess why this is what happened..... I vaguely remember Savior and others with the match fixing scandal had rekt the chances for brood war players to be exempted from any military service. I could be totally wrong..... someone can confirm.
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alypse
Profile Joined May 2010
2771 Posts
April 15 2021 21:37 GMT
#31
On April 15 2021 21:55 BLinD-RawR wrote:
not the worst time to do it.

yeah I think this is a good time for him to go. His wrist will have more than a year to rest and heal while completing military service.
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Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6103 Posts
April 15 2021 23:45 GMT
#32
Damn

What about ASL??
#1 Terran hater
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
April 15 2021 23:45 GMT
#33
On April 16 2021 05:45 PurE)Rabbit-SF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2021 05:39 Kitai wrote:
On April 15 2021 17:59 BigFan wrote:
I always thought he was exempt for some reason.


He should be. National hero and all.


Savior says No, you gotta go do your time my dude. I hope this is not too troll of a guess why this is what happened..... I vaguely remember Savior and others with the match fixing scandal had rekt the chances for brood war players to be exempted from any military service. I could be totally wrong..... someone can confirm.


He was supposed to be exempt due to his injuries and the gigantic scar on his arm.

At least that was what was always written here on TL. Stork due to insomnia (sorry spelling), Flash due to injury and rain due to being a liver donor were exempt from military.

At least the flash part is confirmed not being true :/

GL Flash, you will be missed!
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1418 Posts
April 15 2021 23:47 GMT
#34
To commemorate(?) for FlaSh, let's take look at state of StarCraft pre-FlaSh (2016)
Some balance whine posts on Ygosu pre-FlaSh:

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1. why is terran getting weaker as time goes on
there isn't even patch like SC2 but why is Terran so bad state now?


2. Terrans nowadays get destroyed by 3h macro games


3. why do you guys think Terran struggles so much nowadays?

There's obvious faults such as lack of optimization and new ideas as race but it seems like other 2 races have brought their skills up while Terrans remained untouched...


4. Terrans have such hard time nowadays
best and goozila came over so that may be fault but as games go on, terrans get owned by arbitors and when they try timing attack, they just get destroyed by protoss micro... bad times...


5. I think Bisu compeltely figured PvT out
Think its almost impossible for Terrans to beat Bisu nowadays...


6. If everything goes perfect, I think zerg is the best race now
Even mass queen is favorable for zerg, and there isn't real solution for Terrans lategame...


7. This is why people miss FlaSh so much
They want to see a Terran just beat protoss...


8. Think even when FlaSh come over, Bisu will never lose
Bisu's PvT is pretty much impossible to beat in CB...



9. Terrans have figured the game out way too long ago
Now there is no more new builds to introduce and we just use old builds now since there is nothing else more to do...


10. These idiots will never progress as race even when they practice
sea/last/mind , people like these who just copy builds have noone to follow at all


11. opinion on TvP gameplay and overall direction of game
I think Terran have reached its end of builds evolution long ago and nowadays, PvT is impossible to lose for Protoss
I dont think there is any more build orders to be discovered


12. isn't it amazing zergs and protoss have new ideas and builds but Terran don't?
Will this ever change if flash/fantasy comes over?


13. Current Afreeca climate is Terran graveyard
I can't watch Terran lose on spongames anymore...if map's CB, its autolose for Terrans.

Shinokuki
Profile Joined July 2013
United States859 Posts
April 16 2021 00:15 GMT
#35
Might be the beginning of the end of ASL as flash is leaving. ASL's viewership has been atrocious lately..
Life is just life
machinus
Profile Joined January 2010
United States290 Posts
April 16 2021 00:41 GMT
#36
Kim Jong-un should just surrender now before it's too late.
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
April 16 2021 01:23 GMT
#37
On April 16 2021 08:45 KobraKay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2021 05:45 PurE)Rabbit-SF wrote:
On April 16 2021 05:39 Kitai wrote:
On April 15 2021 17:59 BigFan wrote:
I always thought he was exempt for some reason.


He should be. National hero and all.


Savior says No, you gotta go do your time my dude. I hope this is not too troll of a guess why this is what happened..... I vaguely remember Savior and others with the match fixing scandal had rekt the chances for brood war players to be exempted from any military service. I could be totally wrong..... someone can confirm.


He was supposed to be exempt due to his injuries and the gigantic scar on his arm.

At least that was what was always written here on TL. Stork due to insomnia (sorry spelling), Flash due to injury and rain due to being a liver donor were exempt from military.

At least the flash part is confirmed not being true :/

GL Flash, you will be missed!


exempt:
rain
stork
larva (cancer survivor)
hyuk (panic disorder)

RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
April 16 2021 01:42 GMT
#38
On April 16 2021 10:23 ggsimida wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2021 08:45 KobraKay wrote:
On April 16 2021 05:45 PurE)Rabbit-SF wrote:
On April 16 2021 05:39 Kitai wrote:
On April 15 2021 17:59 BigFan wrote:
I always thought he was exempt for some reason.


He should be. National hero and all.


Savior says No, you gotta go do your time my dude. I hope this is not too troll of a guess why this is what happened..... I vaguely remember Savior and others with the match fixing scandal had rekt the chances for brood war players to be exempted from any military service. I could be totally wrong..... someone can confirm.


He was supposed to be exempt due to his injuries and the gigantic scar on his arm.

At least that was what was always written here on TL. Stork due to insomnia (sorry spelling), Flash due to injury and rain due to being a liver donor were exempt from military.

At least the flash part is confirmed not being true :/

GL Flash, you will be missed!


exempt:
rain
stork
larva (cancer survivor)
hyuk (panic disorder)



Every BW player who has ever faced Flash should be exempt from military service due to PSTD (except maybe Effort).
gg no re thx
reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2213 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-16 02:20:16
April 16 2021 02:17 GMT
#39
I know this news was inevitable, but it still hit like brick. Growing up watching Flash has produced so many fond memories.

Good luck, have fun, Lee Young Ho. Will be counting the days until your return.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50114 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-16 02:54:07
April 16 2021 02:51 GMT
#40
On April 16 2021 08:45 Highways wrote:
Damn

What about ASL??


what about it? he dropped out of his seeded when the season started.

On April 16 2021 09:15 Shinokuki wrote:
Might be the beginning of the end of ASL as flash is leaving. ASL's viewership has been atrocious lately..


lmao, very few people in korea watch the official stream, don't get it twisted, most of them watch the commentary of their favorite streamer.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
BreakfastBurrito
Profile Joined November 2011
United States893 Posts
April 16 2021 02:59 GMT
#41
Good luck to FlaSh. He will revolutionize the meta of the SK Army
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riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3392 Posts
April 16 2021 06:33 GMT
#42
How they gonna discipline him if he can't do pushups due to bad wrists? Make him blink a lot?

The year will be over before you know it, he'll be back.
att
Profile Joined March 2020
128 Posts
April 16 2021 09:03 GMT
#43
I wish there was air force ace still... A bonjwa in the air force ace would be so cool.. please army of korea.. can we bring back Air Force ACE Starcraft team... i can hope...
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16056 Posts
April 16 2021 15:19 GMT
#44
Breaking news: Tensions have escalated along the 45th Parrallel as the North Korean government accuses the South of massive arms escalation along the DMZ. Reporting that the South Korean government has deployed the "Ultimate Weapon" along the DMZ.

So far the South Korean government has not been able to be reached for comment, but independent reports show that South Korean soldier morale is at all time high.

This has been Vindicare605 and this has been a sarcastic news report.

Good luck Flash. See you when you get back.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Kurte_Idumin
Profile Joined March 2014
Australia22 Posts
April 16 2021 16:18 GMT
#45
Has he started streaming in Afreeca? I did not see his channel appeared recently
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
April 16 2021 19:39 GMT
#46
Here's hoping he'll return stronger than ever, with totally fixed wrists/arms!

Good luck to Flash in the military too.
Flash | Mvp
Riner1212
Profile Joined November 2012
United States337 Posts
April 16 2021 23:42 GMT
#47
hell probably lose some weight as well.
Sjow "pretty ez life as protoss"
DSK
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
England1110 Posts
April 17 2021 19:01 GMT
#48
Wishing him all the best, hopefully he won't do anything too strenuous with his wrists.
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greenturtle23
Profile Joined August 2019
86 Posts
April 17 2021 23:43 GMT
#49
On April 16 2021 05:39 Kitai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2021 17:59 BigFan wrote:
I always thought he was exempt for some reason.


He should be. National hero and all.

I like that everyone goes. Exceptions are lame.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16056 Posts
April 18 2021 00:03 GMT
#50
On April 18 2021 08:43 greenturtle23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2021 05:39 Kitai wrote:
On April 15 2021 17:59 BigFan wrote:
I always thought he was exempt for some reason.


He should be. National hero and all.

I like that everyone goes. Exceptions are lame.


If i was a Korean citizen (I'm not) it would only make me admire someone more that they didn't try and skip out on the thing that every man has to do just because they were famous.

If the US still had a mandatory draft I'd feel the same way. If I have to go, you have to go, if you get to skip out for some lame reason I'd be upset about it.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
April 18 2021 04:25 GMT
#51
Sounds like if you're in public service you're not allowed to stream? If you're in public service and staying at your own place surely you'd be allowed to stream when you're not working
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
April 18 2021 04:52 GMT
#52
On April 18 2021 09:03 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2021 08:43 greenturtle23 wrote:
On April 16 2021 05:39 Kitai wrote:
On April 15 2021 17:59 BigFan wrote:
I always thought he was exempt for some reason.


He should be. National hero and all.

I like that everyone goes. Exceptions are lame.


If i was a Korean citizen (I'm not) it would only make me admire someone more that they didn't try and skip out on the thing that every man has to do just because they were famous.

If the US still had a mandatory draft I'd feel the same way. If I have to go, you have to go, if you get to skip out for some lame reason I'd be upset about it.


Yes from what I’ve heard there odd indeed a social expectation and camaraderie for going
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
April 18 2021 05:02 GMT
#53
On April 18 2021 09:03 Vindicare605 wrote:

If i was a Korean citizen (I'm not) it would only make me admire someone more that they didn't try and skip out on the thing that every man has to do just because they were famous.

If the US still had a mandatory draft I'd feel the same way. If I have to go, you have to go, if you get to skip out for some lame reason I'd be upset about it.


easy for an average person and/or someone not from a conscription country to say pfft
Ikirouta
Profile Blog Joined November 2017
Finland727 Posts
April 18 2021 05:40 GMT
#54
On April 18 2021 09:03 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2021 08:43 greenturtle23 wrote:
On April 16 2021 05:39 Kitai wrote:
On April 15 2021 17:59 BigFan wrote:
I always thought he was exempt for some reason.


He should be. National hero and all.

I like that everyone goes. Exceptions are lame.


If i was a Korean citizen (I'm not) it would only make me admire someone more that they didn't try and skip out on the thing that every man has to do just because they were famous.

If the US still had a mandatory draft I'd feel the same way. If I have to go, you have to go, if you get to skip out for some lame reason I'd be upset about it.


Rofl.

Think about it from the militarys perspective, if someone is a pro athelete or whatever, skipping one year of training could ruin the rest of their career, and from armys perspective they are just 1 more person, people are a resource to the military and if one has a good reason to not do it its acceptable.
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16056 Posts
April 18 2021 06:18 GMT
#55
On April 18 2021 14:40 Ikirouta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2021 09:03 Vindicare605 wrote:
On April 18 2021 08:43 greenturtle23 wrote:
On April 16 2021 05:39 Kitai wrote:
On April 15 2021 17:59 BigFan wrote:
I always thought he was exempt for some reason.


He should be. National hero and all.

I like that everyone goes. Exceptions are lame.


If i was a Korean citizen (I'm not) it would only make me admire someone more that they didn't try and skip out on the thing that every man has to do just because they were famous.

If the US still had a mandatory draft I'd feel the same way. If I have to go, you have to go, if you get to skip out for some lame reason I'd be upset about it.


Rofl.

Think about it from the militarys perspective, if someone is a pro athelete or whatever, skipping one year of training could ruin the rest of their career, and from armys perspective they are just 1 more person, people are a resource to the military and if one has a good reason to not do it its acceptable.


Doing military service doesn't mean you have to be a frontline soldier, there are other jobs you can do. A Korean friend of mine I worked with for a year in the US said he did his South Korean military service in the mess hall, which explained why he was so fast in the kitchen.

Just because you have to go doesn't mean everyone gets the same job. That's not how it works.

AND besides the reason there's a mandatory draft in the first place is because they are in a state of war with the North and if the North invaded EVERY man of military age would be called to fight anyway, the ones doing their military service now are just the ones that would be deployed first so it doesn't make a difference what shape someone is in going into the service they'd be conscripted anyway.

And to the guy above you, I know how conscripted armies work, don't think I'm ignorant just because my country doesn't have an active draft. I had to sign up for mandatory selective service when I turned 18 just like everyone else did just IN CASE we put in a draft tomorrow. And South Korea is in a very different situation than the US is, where they could be actively invaded at any time (not realistically but still) so there is a very different view of the military over there than there is over here.

I don't have to live there to understand that.
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ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-18 06:45:59
April 18 2021 06:43 GMT
#56
On April 18 2021 15:18 Vindicare605 wrote:


Doing military service doesn't mean you have to be a frontline soldier, there are other jobs you can do. A Korean friend of mine I worked with for a year in the US said he did his South Korean military service in the mess hall, which explained why he was so fast in the kitchen.

Just because you have to go doesn't mean everyone gets the same job. That's not how it works.

AND besides the reason there's a mandatory draft in the first place is because they are in a state of war with the North and if the North invaded EVERY man of military age would be called to fight anyway, the ones doing their military service now are just the ones that would be deployed first so it doesn't make a difference what shape someone is in going into the service they'd be conscripted anyway.

And to the guy above you, I know how conscripted armies work, don't think I'm ignorant just because my country doesn't have an active draft. I had to sign up for mandatory selective service when I turned 18 just like everyone else did just IN CASE we put in a draft tomorrow. And South Korea is in a very different situation than the US is, where they could be actively invaded at any time (not realistically but still) so there is a very different view of the military over there than there is over here.

I don't have to live there to understand that.


yes just like plenty of people you hold a archaic view of what "national service" entails. one doesnt have to be a soldier or a mess cook, an athlete or competitor representing his country in an international tournament and achiveing results is effectively up holding the pride and prestige of their country in a different way. its also a better allocation of their talent than forcing them to be a cook or even a lieutenant which any randomo can do. theres insane amount of hard work and strategizing to just be competitive in their respective fields way more than an average soldier will ever experience or comprehend. SK knows that and they do grant exemptions to exceptional olympic talent unlike what you imply or wish for. only thing i smell is your tall poppy syndrome.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16056 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-18 07:54:53
April 18 2021 07:53 GMT
#57
On April 18 2021 15:43 ggsimida wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2021 15:18 Vindicare605 wrote:


Doing military service doesn't mean you have to be a frontline soldier, there are other jobs you can do. A Korean friend of mine I worked with for a year in the US said he did his South Korean military service in the mess hall, which explained why he was so fast in the kitchen.

Just because you have to go doesn't mean everyone gets the same job. That's not how it works.

AND besides the reason there's a mandatory draft in the first place is because they are in a state of war with the North and if the North invaded EVERY man of military age would be called to fight anyway, the ones doing their military service now are just the ones that would be deployed first so it doesn't make a difference what shape someone is in going into the service they'd be conscripted anyway.

And to the guy above you, I know how conscripted armies work, don't think I'm ignorant just because my country doesn't have an active draft. I had to sign up for mandatory selective service when I turned 18 just like everyone else did just IN CASE we put in a draft tomorrow. And South Korea is in a very different situation than the US is, where they could be actively invaded at any time (not realistically but still) so there is a very different view of the military over there than there is over here.

I don't have to live there to understand that.


yes just like plenty of people you hold a archaic view of what "national service" entails. one doesnt have to be a soldier or a mess cook, an athlete or competitor representing his country in an international tournament and achiveing results is effectively up holding the pride and prestige of their country in a different way. .



You are completely missing the point of South Korea's mandatory military service policy. It has nothing to do with national pride, the country is LITERALLY in a state of war with the North. People are conscripted for mandatory military service so that South Korea maintains at all times an active military force ready to be deployed at any moment.

Being a cook in the army maintains the army. It allows the men that are soldiers to be ready to fight at top condition at a moment's notice if they are needed.

Being an athlete is not the same thing, it has nothing to do with the logistics of the military. You can represent your country sure, but that's not what mandatory military service is.

You're trying to impart ideals of what "service" means on a country that is in a different situation than you are. I'm not. I'm putting myself in the shoes of someone living in Korea as it is now, not the way you think it should be.
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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3343 Posts
April 18 2021 08:16 GMT
#58
On April 18 2021 13:25 Scaramanga wrote:
Sounds like if you're in public service you're not allowed to stream? If you're in public service and staying at your own place surely you'd be allowed to stream when you're not working

You are not allowed to make money while doing the military service. So players cant stream but they can still play on ladder, I believe.
GoSuNamhciR
Profile Joined May 2010
124 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-19 17:38:54
April 19 2021 17:38 GMT
#59
On April 15 2021 20:12 Archeon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2021 20:01 BonitiilloO wrote:
why do people needs to do military service in korea?

Because they are actually threatened by NK, so they need a somewhat large army and people they can draft in case of war.

Like NK would need to be insane to attack SK, but Kim kinda fits the bill. And NK has a large standing army and hostile diplomacy.


Not quite sure NK would be insane for attacking SK. The USA is weaker than China in the region and most recent war models show that we would lose every war in the Pacific and in Asia against China. If China backs NK, then they wouldn't be insane, they would win. It would probably kick off WW3 though, so I don't see it happening as it wouldn't be worth it for China or the US.

Here's to hoping Flash gets healthy and comes back stronger than ever, my fav BW player by far.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
April 20 2021 20:20 GMT
#60
That's kinda heartbreaking but that's life. Hope SC will be around when he comes back
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LUCKY_NOOB
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Bulgaria1423 Posts
April 21 2021 09:59 GMT
#61
Flash goes to the army, Protoss discovers overpowered new micro ability for Carriers.

Coincidence? I think not!
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Starecat
Profile Joined August 2014
936 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-21 22:46:55
April 21 2021 22:46 GMT
#62
I despise conscription with all my heart, seriously.

I live on a country with it and to this day I still wonder what someone like me would help on a war, my rage for being forced to do this shit would make me do everything in my power to avoid it even living on forests until the invading army give more trouble to people pursuing me to fight and they leave me alone.
:3
Nematocyst
Profile Joined October 2017
United States164 Posts
April 22 2021 02:11 GMT
#63
On April 22 2021 07:46 Starecat wrote:
I despise conscription with all my heart, seriously.


One good thing about it is that it shifts public opinion toward an anti-war stance. In my country, anti-war attitudes have lessened steadily after removal of the draft.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25031 Posts
April 22 2021 03:08 GMT
#64
On April 22 2021 11:11 Nematocyst wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2021 07:46 Starecat wrote:
I despise conscription with all my heart, seriously.


One good thing about it is that it shifts public opinion toward an anti-war stance. In my country, anti-war attitudes have lessened steadily after removal of the draft.

Indeed, it’s quite remarkable if you go back to WW2 and how many people who became notable, or indeed relatives of people who were already notable served there, and died.

I can’t remember specific individuals but sons of Prime Ministers and Presidents lost their lives in that conflict. Makes one less liable to push one’s country into war if it’s your kids on the line.

Wasn’t that long ago in the greater scheme of things either, nowadays the idea of the privileged and connected, outside of military careerists being ever sent to harm’s way seems laughable.
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Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
April 22 2021 03:39 GMT
#65
On April 22 2021 07:46 Starecat wrote:
I despise conscription with all my heart, seriously.

I live on a country with it and to this day I still wonder what someone like me would help on a war, my rage for being forced to do this shit would make me do everything in my power to avoid it even living on forests until the invading army give more trouble to people pursuing me to fight and they leave me alone.

It's not too bad.
Mine gas, build tanks.
StalkyBear
Profile Joined October 2019
55 Posts
April 22 2021 03:56 GMT
#66
Flash has been playing brood war competitively since basically the dawn of its existence. I am amazed it took this long until he was finally dragged into service. (Not saying I would want to go if I were him)
machinus
Profile Joined January 2010
United States290 Posts
April 22 2021 05:48 GMT
#67
Maybe videogames aren't important enough to warrant it, but there are plenty of ways for citizens to contribute that are more valuable than joining the armed forces. Even in wartime, most of the economy is not directly related to the military. There is no reason to obsess over enlisting.
Starecat
Profile Joined August 2014
936 Posts
April 22 2021 08:52 GMT
#68
On April 22 2021 12:39 Akio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2021 07:46 Starecat wrote:
I despise conscription with all my heart, seriously.

I live on a country with it and to this day I still wonder what someone like me would help on a war, my rage for being forced to do this shit would make me do everything in my power to avoid it even living on forests until the invading army give more trouble to people pursuing me to fight and they leave me alone.

It's not too bad.

On what universe?
:3
Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway685 Posts
April 23 2021 17:52 GMT
#69
It’s pretty sweet in Norway. You learn to grow up and take responsibility for yourself and you have lots of opportunities to take courses and get paid education.
It’s also considered to be one of the best ways to get leadership education, fireman, police officer or paramedic training amongst other things.
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
April 24 2021 05:44 GMT
#70
On April 18 2021 17:16 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2021 13:25 Scaramanga wrote:
Sounds like if you're in public service you're not allowed to stream? If you're in public service and staying at your own place surely you'd be allowed to stream when you're not working

You are not allowed to make money while doing the military service. So players cant stream but they can still play on ladder, I believe.

This is pretty brain dead
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ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-24 06:25:23
April 24 2021 06:24 GMT
#71
On April 24 2021 02:52 Timebon3s wrote:
It’s pretty sweet in Norway. You learn to grow up and take responsibility for yourself and you have lots of opportunities to take courses and get paid education.
It’s also considered to be one of the best ways to get leadership education, fireman, police officer or paramedic training amongst other things.


you can do all of that without conscription. and not everyone is interested in military/civil careers. norway conscription looks entirely optional unlike korea. imagine if the likes of magnus carlsen have to take even a year off during his pivotal development period to do conscription, he will never be where he is today
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
April 24 2021 07:04 GMT
#72
I wonder if it’s possible to donate all stream proceeds to charity
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1404 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-24 08:56:05
April 24 2021 08:49 GMT
#73
fuck me
Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway685 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-24 11:13:58
April 24 2021 11:13 GMT
#74
On April 24 2021 15:24 ggsimida wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2021 02:52 Timebon3s wrote:
It’s pretty sweet in Norway. You learn to grow up and take responsibility for yourself and you have lots of opportunities to take courses and get paid education.
It’s also considered to be one of the best ways to get leadership education, fireman, police officer or paramedic training amongst other things.


you can do all of that without conscription. and not everyone is interested in military/civil careers. norway conscription looks entirely optional unlike korea. imagine if the likes of magnus carlsen have to take even a year off during his pivotal development period to do conscription, he will never be where he is today

There is one year of compulsory military service in norway.
You can’t always get that education other places. At least not fireman education and it’s almost a requirement to finish your year in order to get into the police academy.
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-24 11:48:14
April 24 2021 11:45 GMT
#75
On April 24 2021 20:13 Timebon3s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2021 15:24 ggsimida wrote:
On April 24 2021 02:52 Timebon3s wrote:
It’s pretty sweet in Norway. You learn to grow up and take responsibility for yourself and you have lots of opportunities to take courses and get paid education.
It’s also considered to be one of the best ways to get leadership education, fireman, police officer or paramedic training amongst other things.


you can do all of that without conscription. and not everyone is interested in military/civil careers. norway conscription looks entirely optional unlike korea. imagine if the likes of magnus carlsen have to take even a year off during his pivotal development period to do conscription, he will never be where he is today

There is one year of compulsory military service in norway.
You can’t always get that education other places. At least not fireman education and it’s almost a requirement to finish your year in order to get into the police academy.


yes wow the other hundred countries with no conscription have failures for their military and fire department how sad.
Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway685 Posts
April 24 2021 12:27 GMT
#76
You asked on which universe it wasn’t all bad and I just mentioned that it was pretty sweet in Norway. No point in getting all pissy about it
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-24 13:14:27
April 24 2021 13:06 GMT
#77
On April 24 2021 21:27 Timebon3s wrote:
You asked on which universe it wasn’t all bad and I just mentioned that it was pretty sweet in Norway. No point in getting all pissy about it


and who are you to project how "sweet" it is for everyone in norway?

simple truth, theres nothing interesting or exciting about conscription except for peeps who are interested in them in the first place. people who have went through it just gives positive justification/s to give themselves a peace of mind. when if given an actual choice obviously most of them would not want to go through it at all.

also obviously easy to mouth off if you are not part of any conscription country. smart boy aint you.
Jisira
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
470 Posts
April 24 2021 15:10 GMT
#78
I think the idea of conscription is good, I know that it's a merit that sadly not everyone in my country will experience. Waking up on time, working as a part of a unit (regardless of if you're in the field, in the administration, working the kitchen, janitorial services, whatever) you learn fundamental things about yourself and life overall that's solid.

The conscription age here in Sweden is 18-20 though, which means you get a paid job attending civil education for a year after high school. It's vastly different than going when you're 29.

Regardless, gg Flash, glhf in public service!
Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway685 Posts
April 24 2021 15:25 GMT
#79
On April 24 2021 22:06 ggsimida wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2021 21:27 Timebon3s wrote:
You asked on which universe it wasn’t all bad and I just mentioned that it was pretty sweet in Norway. No point in getting all pissy about it


and who are you to project how "sweet" it is for everyone in norway?

simple truth, theres nothing interesting or exciting about conscription except for peeps who are interested in them in the first place. people who have went through it just gives positive justification/s to give themselves a peace of mind. when if given an actual choice obviously most of them would not want to go through it at all.

also obviously easy to mouth off if you are not part of any conscription country. smart boy aint you.

Who are you to say what’s interesting for people or not? And what do you mean by conscription country?
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8639 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-24 16:13:44
April 24 2021 16:09 GMT
#80
i dont know what conscription is like in other countries that have it, but in korea there is almost no benefit to going to the military from a personal standpoint. the best way you could spin it is like some have pointed out; living through a structured, highly disciplined lifestyle thats will give you a tough experience in various ways that you wont find in normal life. whether this experience is worth sacrificing what was normally 2 years of your life? 99% of korean men would disagree.
you dont get any formal education during your time in the military that can typically be put to use in the normal world. you get paid money no different to what you would make working part time in society. you dont get any perks after youve been discharged either. youre back in society exactly where you left off, except youre 2 years older. youve literally just given 2 years of your life for the service of the country with no material benefit for yourself. only if you want to have a military career does those 2 years amount to anything meaningful.
if you look at conscription from a wider perspective however, the benefit of having a large army that doesnt have a war they have to be at is the country can mobilise the soldiers for public service reasons. a low cost, highly efficient workforce that can assist with any government task is very handy and i personally think this benefit is very underrated. korea has exploited this many times and if conscription is no longer a thing the loss of this benefit is something that makes me sad. tbh its probably the second biggest reason why the korean government wont remove conscription. if you look at the likelihood of warfare commencing with north korea again, you could even argue that its the biggest reason.
Starlightsun
Profile Blog Joined June 2016
United States1405 Posts
April 24 2021 16:11 GMT
#81
On April 15 2021 15:25 thedeadhaji wrote:
hope the time off helps his wrists.


Yeah me too.
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
April 24 2021 16:48 GMT
#82
On April 25 2021 01:09 evilfatsh1t wrote:
i dont know what conscription is like in other countries that have it, but in korea there is almost no benefit to going to the military from a personal standpoint. the best way you could spin it is like some have pointed out; living through a structured, highly disciplined lifestyle thats will give you a tough experience in various ways that you wont find in normal life. whether this experience is worth sacrificing what was normally 2 years of your life? 99% of korean men would disagree.
you dont get any formal education during your time in the military that can typically be put to use in the normal world. you get paid money no different to what you would make working part time in society. you dont get any perks after youve been discharged either. youre back in society exactly where you left off, except youre 2 years older. youve literally just given 2 years of your life for the service of the country with no material benefit for yourself. only if you want to have a military career does those 2 years amount to anything meaningful.
if you look at conscription from a wider perspective however, the benefit of having a large army that doesnt have a war they have to be at is the country can mobilise the soldiers for public service reasons. a low cost, highly efficient workforce that can assist with any government task is very handy and i personally think this benefit is very underrated. korea has exploited this many times and if conscription is no longer a thing the loss of this benefit is something that makes me sad. tbh its probably the second biggest reason why the korean government wont remove conscription. if you look at the likelihood of warfare commencing with north korea again, you could even argue that its the biggest reason.


Can't agree more, fuck military. That shit ruined my early 20s cause I spent my time hiding like a rat and couldn't enjoy the life because constantly lived with fear that eventually I need to do that. Luckily I skipped it, this summer's birthday is the time when my age will be too high so they can't force me to go and do that useless piece of shit.
sunbeams are never made like me...
itsdaniel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Austria334 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-05-06 04:33:53
May 06 2021 04:25 GMT
#83
the last few hours for flash... with Britney,Larva and Rain...

[image loading]
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prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania7974 Posts
May 06 2021 06:56 GMT
#84
Amazing photo! Thanks for sharing it !

I watched yesterday a bit of Britney's stream and saw them
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jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1418 Posts
May 06 2021 08:13 GMT
#85
1 year and 9 month is length
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-05-06 09:34:09
May 06 2021 09:33 GMT
#86
Good luck, God.
See you soon.
The Bomber boy
ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1682 Posts
May 06 2021 16:09 GMT
#87
On May 06 2021 13:25 itsdaniel wrote:
the last few hours for flash... with Britney,Larva and Rain...

[image loading]


Rainnnnnnn come backkkkkkkk to us please..
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Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1404 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-05-06 19:03:23
May 06 2021 19:02 GMT
#88
Damn, Flash with ultra short hair looks like... give him 10 more years and he'll be convincing as a triad-boss/mastermind.

Anyway: (o.o)7 Please return to being our Ultimate Weapon when you're finished with service!
Starlightsun
Profile Blog Joined June 2016
United States1405 Posts
May 06 2021 19:13 GMT
#89
On May 07 2021 04:02 Highgamer wrote:
Damn, Flash with ultra short hair looks like... give him 10 more years and he'll be convincing as a triad-boss/mastermind.

Anyway: (o.o)7 Please return to being our Ultimate Weapon when you're finished with service!


To me he looks like a peaceful Buddha statue. Hard to believe he's such a cold blooded killer.
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1404 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-05-06 23:16:59
May 06 2021 23:16 GMT
#90
On May 07 2021 04:13 Starlightsun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2021 04:02 Highgamer wrote:
Damn, Flash with ultra short hair looks like... give him 10 more years and he'll be convincing as a triad-boss/mastermind.

Anyway: (o.o)7 Please return to being our Ultimate Weapon when you're finished with service!


To me he looks like a peaceful Buddha statue. Hard to believe he's such a cold blooded killer.


Never said he'd do the dirty work, lol. Still I can't agree. Don't you see that smirk? That's not Buddha's smile of tranquililty. And Flash definitelly has killer instinct, see the proof:





[Damn, they deleted the Korean version that's linked in TLPD...]
-visnu-
Profile Joined April 2009
Australia149 Posts
March 26 2022 11:51 GMT
#91
How long till Flasah has finished his service ?
Thanks !
LG)Sabbath
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Argentina3022 Posts
April 28 2022 14:31 GMT
#92
On March 26 2022 20:51 -visnu- wrote:
How long till Flasah has finished his service ?
Thanks !

By my calculation he is done in 9 months, early february 2023
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BonitiilloO
Profile Joined June 2013
Dominican Republic614 Posts
April 29 2022 02:53 GMT
#93
great thanks
How may help u?
NexCa
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany954 Posts
March 06 2023 20:10 GMT
#94
Hello Folks! - are there any news when, and if FlaSh is coming back to Broodwar?
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XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2260 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-03-06 23:52:20
March 06 2023 23:49 GMT
#95
On April 25 2021 01:48 outscar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2021 01:09 evilfatsh1t wrote:
i dont know what conscription is like in other countries that have it, but in korea there is almost no benefit to going to the military from a personal standpoint. the best way you could spin it is like some have pointed out; living through a structured, highly disciplined lifestyle thats will give you a tough experience in various ways that you wont find in normal life. whether this experience is worth sacrificing what was normally 2 years of your life? 99% of korean men would disagree.
you dont get any formal education during your time in the military that can typically be put to use in the normal world. you get paid money no different to what you would make working part time in society. you dont get any perks after youve been discharged either. youre back in society exactly where you left off, except youre 2 years older. youve literally just given 2 years of your life for the service of the country with no material benefit for yourself. only if you want to have a military career does those 2 years amount to anything meaningful.
if you look at conscription from a wider perspective however, the benefit of having a large army that doesnt have a war they have to be at is the country can mobilise the soldiers for public service reasons. a low cost, highly efficient workforce that can assist with any government task is very handy and i personally think this benefit is very underrated. korea has exploited this many times and if conscription is no longer a thing the loss of this benefit is something that makes me sad. tbh its probably the second biggest reason why the korean government wont remove conscription. if you look at the likelihood of warfare commencing with north korea again, you could even argue that its the biggest reason.


Can't agree more, fuck military. That shit ruined my early 20s cause I spent my time hiding like a rat and couldn't enjoy the life because constantly lived with fear that eventually I need to do that. Luckily I skipped it, this summer's birthday is the time when my age will be too high so they can't force me to go and do that useless piece of shit.


dude thats amazing, im srsly happy for you, theres nothing worse in life than doing shit u're forced to.

the only reason to go to the military that makes some sense is the fact that they teach you how to manage weapons, that is kinda useful in the case of a revolution, other than that, mandatory military is non sense to freedom.
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
Nirli
Profile Joined February 2023
Bulgaria365 Posts
March 07 2023 15:55 GMT
#96
He's discussing special tactics with White-Ra, only to come back next ASL for a Protoss run.
LocoBolon
Profile Joined June 2012
Argentina243 Posts
March 09 2023 00:53 GMT
#97
On March 08 2023 00:55 Nirli wrote:
He's discussing special tactics with White-Ra, only to come back next ASL for a Protoss run.


Is that actually true or a joke? Can't tell. I also do want to know what is God up to these days since he's regained his freedom.

I don't see him not returining to BW, but I do see him playing lowkey-undercover-smurfaka for a while though until he's regained some form because I'm not sure beeing the God of the game, the undisputed best of the best forever is something he takes lightly ^^.

Please hurry up and come back asap, I want to see you play!

Standard Queens
Jason99
Profile Joined March 2023
2 Posts
March 11 2023 18:41 GMT
#98
https://vod.afreecatv.com/player/98646705
This appeared in afreeca recently and flash is rank B under one of his most popular smurfs
A.Alm
Profile Joined September 2012
Sweden515 Posts
March 11 2023 20:25 GMT
#99
On March 12 2023 03:41 Jason99 wrote:
https://vod.afreecatv.com/player/98646705
This appeared in afreeca recently and flash is rank B under one of his most popular smurfs


Not sure i'd call this B rank:
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-03-11 20:47:04
March 11 2023 20:46 GMT
#100
On March 12 2023 05:25 A.Alm wrote:
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On March 12 2023 03:41 Jason99 wrote:
https://vod.afreecatv.com/player/98646705
This appeared in afreeca recently and flash is rank B under one of his most popular smurfs


Not sure i'd call this B rank: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ep1w_8kQMIA&ab_channel=StarCastTVEnglish

Scan says at around 0:50 that this vod is from before his military service
Mine gas, build tanks.
A.Alm
Profile Joined September 2012
Sweden515 Posts
March 11 2023 22:20 GMT
#101
On March 12 2023 05:46 Akio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2023 05:25 A.Alm wrote:
On March 12 2023 03:41 Jason99 wrote:
https://vod.afreecatv.com/player/98646705
This appeared in afreeca recently and flash is rank B under one of his most popular smurfs


Not sure i'd call this B rank: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ep1w_8kQMIA&ab_channel=StarCastTVEnglish

Scan says at around 0:50 that this vod is from before his military service


Aah, my bad. Thanks for the update. I hope Flash is back in shape asap!
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
March 12 2023 10:49 GMT
#102
What? I assumed he was finished with his military service by now. Has he been streaming lately?
LocoBolon
Profile Joined June 2012
Argentina243 Posts
March 13 2023 03:08 GMT
#103
On March 12 2023 03:41 Jason99 wrote:
https://vod.afreecatv.com/player/98646705
This appeared in afreeca recently and flash is rank B under one of his most popular smurfs

lol shut up
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TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1013 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-03-13 06:10:03
March 13 2023 06:09 GMT
#104
On March 07 2023 08:49 XenOsky wrote:
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On April 25 2021 01:48 outscar wrote:
On April 25 2021 01:09 evilfatsh1t wrote:
i dont know what conscription is like in other countries that have it, but in korea there is almost no benefit to going to the military from a personal standpoint. the best way you could spin it is like some have pointed out; living through a structured, highly disciplined lifestyle thats will give you a tough experience in various ways that you wont find in normal life. whether this experience is worth sacrificing what was normally 2 years of your life? 99% of korean men would disagree.
you dont get any formal education during your time in the military that can typically be put to use in the normal world. you get paid money no different to what you would make working part time in society. you dont get any perks after youve been discharged either. youre back in society exactly where you left off, except youre 2 years older. youve literally just given 2 years of your life for the service of the country with no material benefit for yourself. only if you want to have a military career does those 2 years amount to anything meaningful.
if you look at conscription from a wider perspective however, the benefit of having a large army that doesnt have a war they have to be at is the country can mobilise the soldiers for public service reasons. a low cost, highly efficient workforce that can assist with any government task is very handy and i personally think this benefit is very underrated. korea has exploited this many times and if conscription is no longer a thing the loss of this benefit is something that makes me sad. tbh its probably the second biggest reason why the korean government wont remove conscription. if you look at the likelihood of warfare commencing with north korea again, you could even argue that its the biggest reason.


Can't agree more, fuck military. That shit ruined my early 20s cause I spent my time hiding like a rat and couldn't enjoy the life because constantly lived with fear that eventually I need to do that. Luckily I skipped it, this summer's birthday is the time when my age will be too high so they can't force me to go and do that useless piece of shit.


dude thats amazing, im srsly happy for you, theres nothing worse in life than doing shit u're forced to.

the only reason to go to the military that makes some sense is the fact that they teach you how to manage weapons, that is kinda useful in the case of a revolution, other than that, mandatory military is non sense to freedom.



This is standing ovation material, nothing less
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
March 13 2023 10:01 GMT
#105
On March 13 2023 15:09 TornadoSteve wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2023 08:49 XenOsky wrote:
On April 25 2021 01:48 outscar wrote:
On April 25 2021 01:09 evilfatsh1t wrote:
i dont know what conscription is like in other countries that have it, but in korea there is almost no benefit to going to the military from a personal standpoint. the best way you could spin it is like some have pointed out; living through a structured, highly disciplined lifestyle thats will give you a tough experience in various ways that you wont find in normal life. whether this experience is worth sacrificing what was normally 2 years of your life? 99% of korean men would disagree.
you dont get any formal education during your time in the military that can typically be put to use in the normal world. you get paid money no different to what you would make working part time in society. you dont get any perks after youve been discharged either. youre back in society exactly where you left off, except youre 2 years older. youve literally just given 2 years of your life for the service of the country with no material benefit for yourself. only if you want to have a military career does those 2 years amount to anything meaningful.
if you look at conscription from a wider perspective however, the benefit of having a large army that doesnt have a war they have to be at is the country can mobilise the soldiers for public service reasons. a low cost, highly efficient workforce that can assist with any government task is very handy and i personally think this benefit is very underrated. korea has exploited this many times and if conscription is no longer a thing the loss of this benefit is something that makes me sad. tbh its probably the second biggest reason why the korean government wont remove conscription. if you look at the likelihood of warfare commencing with north korea again, you could even argue that its the biggest reason.


Can't agree more, fuck military. That shit ruined my early 20s cause I spent my time hiding like a rat and couldn't enjoy the life because constantly lived with fear that eventually I need to do that. Luckily I skipped it, this summer's birthday is the time when my age will be too high so they can't force me to go and do that useless piece of shit.


dude thats amazing, im srsly happy for you, theres nothing worse in life than doing shit u're forced to.

the only reason to go to the military that makes some sense is the fact that they teach you how to manage weapons, that is kinda useful in the case of a revolution, other than that, mandatory military is non sense to freedom.



This is standing ovation material, nothing less

The crowd erupts into a ”USA! USA!” chant as the bald eagles form a star-sprangled banner in the sky
Mine gas, build tanks.
Nirli
Profile Joined February 2023
Bulgaria365 Posts
March 15 2023 16:16 GMT
#106
The second the ASL15 champ lifts the trophy, all lights will go out, then back on - and Flash will be behind him, cosplaying as the Vulture pilot.
And scene.
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