EPTCoincidence? I think not!
FlaSh going to army in 3 weeks - Page 4
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LUCKY_NOOB
Bulgaria1537 Posts
Coincidence? I think not! | ||
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Starecat
940 Posts
I live on a country with it and to this day I still wonder what someone like me would help on a war, my rage for being forced to do this shit would make me do everything in my power to avoid it even living on forests until the invading army give more trouble to people pursuing me to fight and they leave me alone. | ||
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Nematocyst
United States164 Posts
On April 22 2021 07:46 Starecat wrote: I despise conscription with all my heart, seriously. One good thing about it is that it shifts public opinion toward an anti-war stance. In my country, anti-war attitudes have lessened steadily after removal of the draft. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26629 Posts
On April 22 2021 11:11 Nematocyst wrote: One good thing about it is that it shifts public opinion toward an anti-war stance. In my country, anti-war attitudes have lessened steadily after removal of the draft. Indeed, it’s quite remarkable if you go back to WW2 and how many people who became notable, or indeed relatives of people who were already notable served there, and died. I can’t remember specific individuals but sons of Prime Ministers and Presidents lost their lives in that conflict. Makes one less liable to push one’s country into war if it’s your kids on the line. Wasn’t that long ago in the greater scheme of things either, nowadays the idea of the privileged and connected, outside of military careerists being ever sent to harm’s way seems laughable. | ||
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Akio
Finland1838 Posts
On April 22 2021 07:46 Starecat wrote: I despise conscription with all my heart, seriously. I live on a country with it and to this day I still wonder what someone like me would help on a war, my rage for being forced to do this shit would make me do everything in my power to avoid it even living on forests until the invading army give more trouble to people pursuing me to fight and they leave me alone. It's not too bad. | ||
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StalkyBear
55 Posts
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machinus
United States292 Posts
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Starecat
940 Posts
On what universe? | ||
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Timebon3s
Norway764 Posts
It’s also considered to be one of the best ways to get leadership education, fireman, police officer or paramedic training amongst other things. | ||
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Scaramanga
Australia8092 Posts
On April 18 2021 17:16 tigera6 wrote: You are not allowed to make money while doing the military service. So players cant stream but they can still play on ladder, I believe. This is pretty brain dead | ||
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ggsimida
1156 Posts
On April 24 2021 02:52 Timebon3s wrote: It’s pretty sweet in Norway. You learn to grow up and take responsibility for yourself and you have lots of opportunities to take courses and get paid education. It’s also considered to be one of the best ways to get leadership education, fireman, police officer or paramedic training amongst other things. you can do all of that without conscription. and not everyone is interested in military/civil careers. norway conscription looks entirely optional unlike korea. imagine if the likes of magnus carlsen have to take even a year off during his pivotal development period to do conscription, he will never be where he is today | ||
thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
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Highgamer
1451 Posts
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Timebon3s
Norway764 Posts
On April 24 2021 15:24 ggsimida wrote: you can do all of that without conscription. and not everyone is interested in military/civil careers. norway conscription looks entirely optional unlike korea. imagine if the likes of magnus carlsen have to take even a year off during his pivotal development period to do conscription, he will never be where he is today There is one year of compulsory military service in norway. You can’t always get that education other places. At least not fireman education and it’s almost a requirement to finish your year in order to get into the police academy. | ||
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ggsimida
1156 Posts
On April 24 2021 20:13 Timebon3s wrote: There is one year of compulsory military service in norway. You can’t always get that education other places. At least not fireman education and it’s almost a requirement to finish your year in order to get into the police academy. yes wow the other hundred countries with no conscription have failures for their military and fire department how sad. | ||
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Timebon3s
Norway764 Posts
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ggsimida
1156 Posts
On April 24 2021 21:27 Timebon3s wrote: You asked on which universe it wasn’t all bad and I just mentioned that it was pretty sweet in Norway. No point in getting all pissy about it and who are you to project how "sweet" it is for everyone in norway? simple truth, theres nothing interesting or exciting about conscription except for peeps who are interested in them in the first place. people who have went through it just gives positive justification/s to give themselves a peace of mind. when if given an actual choice obviously most of them would not want to go through it at all. also obviously easy to mouth off if you are not part of any conscription country. smart boy aint you. | ||
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Jisira
470 Posts
The conscription age here in Sweden is 18-20 though, which means you get a paid job attending civil education for a year after high school. It's vastly different than going when you're 29. Regardless, gg Flash, glhf in public service! | ||
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Timebon3s
Norway764 Posts
On April 24 2021 22:06 ggsimida wrote: and who are you to project how "sweet" it is for everyone in norway? simple truth, theres nothing interesting or exciting about conscription except for peeps who are interested in them in the first place. people who have went through it just gives positive justification/s to give themselves a peace of mind. when if given an actual choice obviously most of them would not want to go through it at all. also obviously easy to mouth off if you are not part of any conscription country. smart boy aint you. Who are you to say what’s interesting for people or not? And what do you mean by conscription country? | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8848 Posts
you dont get any formal education during your time in the military that can typically be put to use in the normal world. you get paid money no different to what you would make working part time in society. you dont get any perks after youve been discharged either. youre back in society exactly where you left off, except youre 2 years older. youve literally just given 2 years of your life for the service of the country with no material benefit for yourself. only if you want to have a military career does those 2 years amount to anything meaningful. if you look at conscription from a wider perspective however, the benefit of having a large army that doesnt have a war they have to be at is the country can mobilise the soldiers for public service reasons. a low cost, highly efficient workforce that can assist with any government task is very handy and i personally think this benefit is very underrated. korea has exploited this many times and if conscription is no longer a thing the loss of this benefit is something that makes me sad. tbh its probably the second biggest reason why the korean government wont remove conscription. if you look at the likelihood of warfare commencing with north korea again, you could even argue that its the biggest reason. | ||
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