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Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12270 Posts
May 02 2023 18:17 GMT
#681
On May 02 2023 21:02 Dewaltoss wrote:
Hey guys! I really enjoy playing on SB, but i feel like its hard to find opponent on 1v1 ladder even tho there is League with actual prize pool happening right now.
What about adding feature where you can see how much players are in Queue right at the moment when you start find opponent? I think it would improve ladder experience alot for both 1v1 and 2v2 gameplay!


We used to have that, then took it away. What ended up happening was nobody wanted to be the only one in the queue, so they would only queue if other people were already queued. The other consequence was they would queue-dodge, so if Player A posted that they were queuing and Player B didn't want to play against that person/race, Player A would wait until the active queue went back to 0 before queuing up himself.
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2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9571 Posts
May 02 2023 19:23 GMT
#682
On May 02 2023 21:02 Dewaltoss wrote:
Hey guys! I really enjoy playing on SB, but i feel like its hard to find opponent on 1v1 ladder even tho there is League with actual prize pool happening right now.
What about adding feature where you can see how much players are in Queue right at the moment when you start find opponent? I think it would improve ladder experience alot for both 1v1 and 2v2 gameplay!

Besides what LML and Excalibur_Z said, we're also planning on making a sort of home/news page inside the app which will hopefully increase the visibility for the leagues that are currently running and incite people to queue more.
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
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hgfzthrhgf
Profile Joined May 2023
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-05-03 06:51:26
May 03 2023 06:48 GMT
#683
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AssyrianKing
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia2146 Posts
July 23 2023 03:45 GMT
#684
How's the population of Shield Battery compared to B.Net?
John 15:13
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9571 Posts
August 12 2023 17:35 GMT
#685
There is a new map pool on ShieldBattery which includes both the maps upcoming ASL and BSL. 11 maps in total are in the pool, with 5 vetoes available! There is also a refreshed 2v2 map pool with regular amount of maps.

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Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
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hgtregdf
Profile Joined October 2023
1 Post
October 28 2023 09:14 GMT
#686
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scvn
Profile Joined February 2024
6 Posts
February 22 2024 06:24 GMT
#687
Can SB host games between 2 pre-determined individuals with several observers?
We are planning to host an online tournament with live casting and the lag on Battlenet is unbearable. Is SB better than BN in terms of lag?
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3727 Posts
February 22 2024 06:41 GMT
#688
On February 22 2024 15:24 scvn wrote:
Can SB host games between 2 pre-determined individuals with several observers?
We are planning to host an online tournament with live casting and the lag on Battlenet is unbearable. Is SB better than BN in terms of lag?

Yes, you can host a custom lobby in melee mode and have observers.

It is likely better than bnet in terms of lag, but that's dependent on a lot of factors.
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
scvn
Profile Joined February 2024
6 Posts
February 22 2024 08:52 GMT
#689
On February 22 2024 15:41 tec27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2024 15:24 scvn wrote:
Can SB host games between 2 pre-determined individuals with several observers?
We are planning to host an online tournament with live casting and the lag on Battlenet is unbearable. Is SB better than BN in terms of lag?

Yes, you can host a custom lobby in melee mode and have observers.

It is likely better than bnet in terms of lag, but that's dependent on a lot of factors.


Thanks for the quick feedback. What about cheating? Is it possible to cheat on SB? Like map hack or some other form of cheats?
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3727 Posts
February 22 2024 22:35 GMT
#690
On February 22 2024 17:52 scvn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2024 15:41 tec27 wrote:
On February 22 2024 15:24 scvn wrote:
Can SB host games between 2 pre-determined individuals with several observers?
We are planning to host an online tournament with live casting and the lag on Battlenet is unbearable. Is SB better than BN in terms of lag?

Yes, you can host a custom lobby in melee mode and have observers.

It is likely better than bnet in terms of lag, but that's dependent on a lot of factors.


Thanks for the quick feedback. What about cheating? Is it possible to cheat on SB? Like map hack or some other form of cheats?

It is possible to cheat, yes. Unfortunately preventing maphacks (which can be done pretty much undetectably) is basically impossible without some very major restructuring to the game, so we haven't done that.
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1560 Posts
February 23 2024 00:53 GMT
#691
I'm so annoyed it's been 7 years since release almost and the official turn rate system hasn't even come close to SB's stuf.
scvn
Profile Joined February 2024
6 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-23 04:51:35
February 23 2024 04:50 GMT
#692
I see. But can these cheats be done on Battlenet as well?
Basically I want to evaluate which platform to host a tournament where cheating is a legitimate concern.
I see that BSL is using SB for their own tournaments. Surely people can cheat while playing their BSL games on SB right? Players have just been very honest or...?

On February 23 2024 07:35 tec27 wrote:
It is possible to cheat, yes. Unfortunately preventing maphacks (which can be done pretty much undetectably) is basically impossible without some very major restructuring to the game, so we haven't done that.

Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12071 Posts
February 23 2024 09:39 GMT
#693
On February 23 2024 09:53 jinjin5000 wrote:
I'm so annoyed it's been 7 years since release almost and the official turn rate system hasn't even come close to SB's stuf.


Nobody is even working on Remastered anymore at least not actively I believe. The team they left working on it after release was 3 people and all of them have since left Blizzard.
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jghuztgdsa
Profile Joined February 2024
1 Post
February 23 2024 10:05 GMT
#694
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jhgiuztedrzitf
Profile Joined February 2024
1 Post
Last Edited: 2024-02-23 10:21:08
February 23 2024 10:18 GMT
#695
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pheer
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
5404 Posts
February 23 2024 14:16 GMT
#696
Whenever I feel a bit demotivated in life, I come back to this SB thread. It reminds me that somewhere in the world, there's an individual so highly motivated that he wakes up each day to fire up his VPN, click his bookmark to this thread, create a new account, and diarrhea on the keyboard. That level of dedication is truly an inspiration.
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10413 Posts
February 23 2024 16:40 GMT
#697
On February 23 2024 13:50 scvn wrote:
I see. But can these cheats be done on Battlenet as well?
Basically I want to evaluate which platform to host a tournament where cheating is a legitimate concern.
I see that BSL is using SB for their own tournaments. Surely people can cheat while playing their BSL games on SB right? Players have just been very honest or...?

Show nested quote +
On February 23 2024 07:35 tec27 wrote:
It is possible to cheat, yes. Unfortunately preventing maphacks (which can be done pretty much undetectably) is basically impossible without some very major restructuring to the game, so we haven't done that.


Almost every player competing in BSL is an established/known player, and good players would be able to detect a pattern of someone cheating over the course of multiple games, or if someone is getting better results than you would expect from them.

If cheating is such a concern, then perhaps those individuals you are concerned about should not participate, or you should review their replays manually. There isn't any real way around it unless you host it at a LAN center without allowing anyone to bring in flash drives.
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FT.aCt)Sony
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1049 Posts
February 23 2024 19:36 GMT
#698
Time to have some 2004-2008 Map Era Leagues!
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3727 Posts
February 23 2024 21:26 GMT
#699
On February 23 2024 13:50 scvn wrote:
I see. But can these cheats be done on Battlenet as well?
Basically I want to evaluate which platform to host a tournament where cheating is a legitimate concern.
I see that BSL is using SB for their own tournaments. Surely people can cheat while playing their BSL games on SB right? Players have just been very honest or...?

Show nested quote +
On February 23 2024 07:35 tec27 wrote:
It is possible to cheat, yes. Unfortunately preventing maphacks (which can be done pretty much undetectably) is basically impossible without some very major restructuring to the game, so we haven't done that.


Yes, you can cheat on bnet as well. SB has some improvements over bnet (e.g. we've fixed a number of exploits that involve things like overflowing the action buffer to duplicate units/gain minerals), but at the end of the day BW (and basically all existing RTS games) have a fundamental flaw in how they are structured that cannot be patched over, you'd have to fix the structure. SC:R in general is more challenging to reverse engineer than previous versions of BW, which helps to keep the number of hacks available lower, but these things certainly do exist.
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12270 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-23 22:14:00
February 23 2024 22:13 GMT
#700
On February 23 2024 13:50 scvn wrote:
I see. But can these cheats be done on Battlenet as well?
Basically I want to evaluate which platform to host a tournament where cheating is a legitimate concern.
I see that BSL is using SB for their own tournaments. Surely people can cheat while playing their BSL games on SB right? Players have just been very honest or...?

Show nested quote +
On February 23 2024 07:35 tec27 wrote:
It is possible to cheat, yes. Unfortunately preventing maphacks (which can be done pretty much undetectably) is basically impossible without some very major restructuring to the game, so we haven't done that.



The other half of it is that we actually take disciplinary action when a player is found to be cheating, exploiting, or simply harassing other users. You're not going to find that level of enforcement on Bnet.
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