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One of the most stubborn myths in our community is that minerals and vespene gas are the most important resources to StarCraft: Brood War. This is dead wrong. In the long run our own children, our own flesh and blood, will prove to be our most precious resource.
For this game to live on, it will need to be passed on from one generation to the next much like a traditional sport such as football or baseball.
And it seems to me that, with the game now over 20 years old, we shouldn't be too far off from seeing the children of long-time BW warriors starting to make names for themselves.
A few discussion topics for this community:
1. Have any parents started to train their children in BW? Do you have any takeaways or amusing anecdotes from that process? Did your children look at you like you were the world's oldest man trying to teach them that old timey game where you roll a hoop with a stick?
2. For those of you without kids, what are you thoughts on the possibility that a wave of 12 year olds will once again descend on battle.net? Are you excited at the prospect of their fresh perspective? Or are you horrified at a possible drop in our community's stellar manners and maturity level?
3. What strategies are most likely to succeed in cultivating the next generation of players? The cartooned version was a good start. Next, how about establishing a BW Little League with uniforms and pizza parties and all that? Or filling a spawning pool with progamers' DNA and waiting to see what emerges?
Onward...
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Can't pay for a defiler mound with your children
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My son plays a bit of BW, SC2, Age of empires 2, HOMM series, majesty, settlers etc. We will see if he decides on a title as he is only 5,5 now. He can win the AI in most of above titles so there is potential. :D (easy difficulty obviously)
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On January 19 2020 20:02 kogeT wrote:
My son plays a bit of BW, SC2, Age of empires 2, HOMM series, majesty, settlers etc. We will see if he decides on a title as he is only 5,5 now. He can win the AI in most of above titles so there is potential. :D (easy difficulty obviously)
Damn, that is one badass 5-year-old.
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Have any parents started to train their children in BW?
Some people must of had / been some amazing parents. =)
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On January 19 2020 12:27 mmhmm wrote:
2. For those of you without kids, what are you thoughts on the possibility that a wave of 12 year olds will once again descend on battle.net? Are you excited at the prospect of their fresh perspective? Or are you horrified at a possible drop in our community's stellar manners and maturity level?
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Can happen... Not likely tho.
Recently I met this 13 years old from Colombia, he was playing fastest and 3vs3, 2 months after he is B rank with zerg.
Theres hope
Dandy has a son that also plays bw, las time I heard of him Dandy said he was c ishlevel
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1. Have any parents started to train their children in BW? Do you have any takeaways or amusing anecdotes from that process? Did your children look at you like you were the world's oldest man trying to teach them that old timey game where you roll a hoop with a stick?
lol holy hell no. The curse started with me and ended with me. He is a gosu playing piano instead. Conservatory level, much more acknowledgeable than being "good" at BW.
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On January 20 2020 21:40 iFU.pauline wrote:Show nested quote +
1. Have any parents started to train their children in BW? Do you have any takeaways or amusing anecdotes from that process? Did your children look at you like you were the world's oldest man trying to teach them that old timey game where you roll a hoop with a stick?
lol holy hell no. The curse started with me and ended with me.
CURSE?
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I've trained many family members throughout the last ten years and they all eventually quit.
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Russian Federation249 Posts
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4yo girl trying to play terran campaign. Has about 4 apm.
At the moment she is stuck on a mission where you need to be alive for 30 minutes, because she refuses to defend and sends all her army to attack zergs.
Biggest problem is that she can't read and count numbers, so it's very hard to teach her what to build when.
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i would never subject my child to bw (its not bw, its video games in general)
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the idea of forcing children to play bw is bizarre and should be openly laughed at, let kids choose what they like instead of trying to make them play a 30 year old game none of their friends will be playing
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Northern Ireland26224 Posts
I’d love it if I could get the kiddo to play Brood War with me, but it’s insanely antiquated, difficult to play and requires a ton of knowledge too.
Kids these days don’t grow up on a keyboard and mouse like I did, it’s a tough transition, they have touch interfaces, VOIP etc.
When I was 10-15 and playing games I had to type to socialise with friends and others, and I became pretty good around a keyboard, which obviously helps with RTS games:
Trying to get a modern child up to that baseline is extremely tough, by and large they’re not as au fait around a keyboard as we are as a starting point anyway, then it’s getting them to play a 20 year old game.
Fair play if you can manage it, I’m struggling to impart the RTS bug to my (6 year old) youngling. He simply doesn’t use computers in the way I did in my youth
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Northern Ireland26224 Posts
If you can manage that it’s great, and props to you guys. Just largely kids these days don’t have the (forced) skills I did.
I had to fucking master the keyboard at a young age, all our social communications were done that way. There was no VoIP. If you want to communicate, learn to type.
Which helps greatly in playing BW or RTS, where keyboard chops are crucial.
The coming generation, they don’t have those chops because they don’t need to. Just how it is. My little sister, with a 15 year gap can’t type for shit, doesn’t need to with modern technology. She can crack maybe 40 words a minute on a good day, I’ve dropped from my 140 peak but can still coast on 120.
I could artificially force my kid to get good at these things but why? What’s he getting from it?
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It's better if they don't start.
If they're going to play games let them play games their friends play, so they can socialise around that.
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my 10yo daugther calls it "dad plays his monsters game" and laughs at me to her friends while playing roblox on her ipad. I'm not sure this is a bad thing though.
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you win, best trolling of 2020
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On January 21 2020 04:45 Hatchet_man wrote:+ Show Spoiler +4yo girl trying to play terran campaign. Has about 4 apm. At the moment she is stuck on a mission where you need to be alive for 30 minutes, because she refuses to defend and sends all her army to attack zergs. Biggest problem is that she can't read and count numbers, so it's very hard to teach her what to build when.
I laughed. Can't teach a BO without knowing how to read and count numbers. Reminds me of when I tried to teach my little one to play on my PC. His hand could not reach the buttons on the mouse.
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Northern Ireland26224 Posts
On January 21 2020 23:52 Dangermousecatdog wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2020 04:45 Hatchet_man wrote:+ Show Spoiler +4yo girl trying to play terran campaign. Has about 4 apm. At the moment she is stuck on a mission where you need to be alive for 30 minutes, because she refuses to defend and sends all her army to attack zergs. Biggest problem is that she can't read and count numbers, so it's very hard to teach her what to build when. I laughed. Can't teach a BO without knowing how to read and count numbers. Reminds me of when I tried to teach my little one to play on my PC. His hand could not reach the buttons on the mouse.
My little one has issues in that he’s a southpaw and my mouse is awkward.
He’s pretty enthused about getting to grips with a computer in general though, bit of a novelty really for him so that’ll be fun moving forward. Plus he likes watching it with me when tournaments are on although sadly he prefers the ‘bug guys’ to my beloved Protoss.
Amongst other obstacles his mother is not a huge fan of Starcraft as our time together coincided with me being borderline obsessed with it :p , but I’ve sold it as an educational tool
I reluctantly was dragged to play Fortnite with him so I figure he owes me now, although it was pretty fun. Is Coop mode In SC2 any good for anyone who’s tried it?
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TLADT24920 Posts
On January 21 2020 07:14 brickrd wrote:
the idea of forcing children to play bw is bizarre and should be openly laughed at, let kids choose what they like instead of trying to make them play a 30 year old game none of their friends will be playing
I agree that they shouldn't be forced to play something they don't want to. Conversely, some kids might learn to play the game because they see it as spending fun time with daddy. Different strokes for different folks after all.
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How can you guys argue that BW is the best future for any kid, I don't get it.
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On January 22 2020 18:05 kogeT wrote:
How can you guys argue that BW is the best future for any kid, I don't get it.
This. It seems insane to pass this on as a helpful or even interesting skill.
But this thread is obviously a joke so whatever ;p
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My sons are 7 and 9, they have both just recently started playing video games, but they've watched me play Starcraft alot, and I will have them have a go at some point  I use the carbot skin, otherwise they find it too scary (and I prefer it because its simply SUPERIOR IN EVERY WAY  ). Inco is now also father, so clan ReV looks like we will have a good junior team soon YEAH
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this thread is obviously a joke so whatever
My intent was to be light-hearted but I'm not entirely joking.
I appreciate everyone's responses so far and laughed at the idea of calling BW a "monsters game." I might have to start using that.
The diversity of opinions in this thread is a good reflection of my own conflicted thinking.
Selfishly, I hope all of you train your kids to play BW because it will mean this game will always have an active player base whenever I might choose to pick it up throughout the remaining half century or so of my life. Plus, I think it would be really cool to watch an FPVOD of a 7 year old prodigy with flawless muta micro or a 4 year old who can do a perfect worker split.
Personally, I can see both sides of the debate about introducing my own children to BW. (They're too young now for this to be a real decision for me yet.)
On the one hand, it's completely natural for parents to share their interests with their kids. It's one of the best ways to bond. And BW definitely encourages critical thinking skills.
On the other hand, as a kid most of the fun of BW was getting to play it with my peers. Kids today will struggle to experience it that way unless we succeed in forming the BW Little League I proposed.
And I also see value in encouraging activities entirely outside of gaming like music, exercise, etc. Though it seems to me that there should be room to encourage a variety of different activities simultaneously, with each pursued in moderation.
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I would be happy to put my kids in a little league of some sort in a while :D once they have learnt a bit! that would be cool. ReV will be a presence in Little League for sure.
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Sadly, the time when they want to copy what mummy and daddy do passes all too soon. Supporting their interests are much better forms of bonding for them.
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