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mmhmm
Profile Joined November 2019
22 Posts
January 19 2020 03:27 GMT
#1
One of the most stubborn myths in our community is that minerals and vespene gas are the most important resources to StarCraft: Brood War. This is dead wrong. In the long run our own children, our own flesh and blood, will prove to be our most precious resource.

For this game to live on, it will need to be passed on from one generation to the next much like a traditional sport such as football or baseball.

And it seems to me that, with the game now over 20 years old, we shouldn't be too far off from seeing the children of long-time BW warriors starting to make names for themselves.

A few discussion topics for this community:

1. Have any parents started to train their children in BW? Do you have any takeaways or amusing anecdotes from that process? Did your children look at you like you were the world's oldest man trying to teach them that old timey game where you roll a hoop with a stick?

2. For those of you without kids, what are you thoughts on the possibility that a wave of 12 year olds will once again descend on battle.net? Are you excited at the prospect of their fresh perspective? Or are you horrified at a possible drop in our community's stellar manners and maturity level?

3. What strategies are most likely to succeed in cultivating the next generation of players? The cartooned version was a good start. Next, how about establishing a BW Little League with uniforms and pizza parties and all that? Or filling a spawning pool with progamers' DNA and waiting to see what emerges?

Onward...
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
January 19 2020 06:54 GMT
#2
Can't pay for a defiler mound with your children
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2037 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-19 11:02:53
January 19 2020 11:02 GMT
#3
My son plays a bit of BW, SC2, Age of empires 2, HOMM series, majesty, settlers etc. We will see if he decides on a title as he is only 5,5 now. He can win the AI in most of above titles so there is potential. :D (easy difficulty obviously)
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2393 Posts
January 20 2020 02:38 GMT
#4
On January 19 2020 20:02 kogeT wrote:
My son plays a bit of BW, SC2, Age of empires 2, HOMM series, majesty, settlers etc. We will see if he decides on a title as he is only 5,5 now. He can win the AI in most of above titles so there is potential. :D (easy difficulty obviously)

Damn, that is one badass 5-year-old.
The original Bogus fan.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10671 Posts
January 20 2020 03:22 GMT
#5
Have any parents started to train their children in BW?


Some people must of had / been some amazing parents. =)
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2267 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-20 03:48:54
January 20 2020 03:45 GMT
#6
On January 19 2020 12:27 mmhmm wrote:

2. For those of you without kids, what are you thoughts on the possibility that a wave of 12 year olds will once again descend on battle.net? Are you excited at the prospect of their fresh perspective? Or are you horrified at a possible drop in our community's stellar manners and maturity level?

.


Can happen... Not likely tho.
Recently I met this 13 years old from Colombia, he was playing fastest and 3vs3, 2 months after he is B rank with zerg.

Theres hope

Dandy has a son that also plays bw, las time I heard of him Dandy said he was c ishlevel
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1548 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-20 12:40:24
January 20 2020 12:40 GMT
#7

1. Have any parents started to train their children in BW? Do you have any takeaways or amusing anecdotes from that process? Did your children look at you like you were the world's oldest man trying to teach them that old timey game where you roll a hoop with a stick?


lol holy hell no. The curse started with me and ended with me. He is a gosu playing piano instead. Conservatory level, much more acknowledgeable than being "good" at BW.
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10671 Posts
January 20 2020 18:45 GMT
#8
On January 20 2020 21:40 iFU.pauline wrote:
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1. Have any parents started to train their children in BW? Do you have any takeaways or amusing anecdotes from that process? Did your children look at you like you were the world's oldest man trying to teach them that old timey game where you roll a hoop with a stick?


lol holy hell no. The curse started with me and ended with me.



CURSE?
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2801 Posts
January 20 2020 19:07 GMT
#9
I've trained many family members throughout the last ten years and they all eventually quit.
Hatchet_man
Profile Joined December 2013
Russian Federation249 Posts
January 20 2020 19:45 GMT
#10
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4yo girl trying to play terran campaign. Has about 4 apm.
At the moment she is stuck on a mission where you need to be alive for 30 minutes, because she refuses to defend and sends all her army to attack zergs.
Biggest problem is that she can't read and count numbers, so it's very hard to teach her what to build when.
KameZerg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1762 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-20 20:00:51
January 20 2020 19:54 GMT
#11
i would never subject my child to bw (its not bw, its video games in general)
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brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
January 20 2020 22:14 GMT
#12
the idea of forcing children to play bw is bizarre and should be openly laughed at, let kids choose what they like instead of trying to make them play a 30 year old game none of their friends will be playing
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25075 Posts
January 20 2020 22:34 GMT
#13
I’d love it if I could get the kiddo to play Brood War with me, but it’s insanely antiquated, difficult to play and requires a ton of knowledge too.

Kids these days don’t grow up on a keyboard and mouse like I did, it’s a tough transition, they have touch interfaces, VOIP etc.

When I was 10-15 and playing games I had to type to socialise with friends and others, and I became pretty good around a keyboard, which obviously helps with RTS games:

Trying to get a modern child up to that baseline is extremely tough, by and large they’re not as au fait around a keyboard as we are as a starting point anyway, then it’s getting them to play a 20 year old game.

Fair play if you can manage it, I’m struggling to impart the RTS bug to my (6 year old) youngling. He simply doesn’t use computers in the way I did in my youth
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25075 Posts
January 20 2020 22:42 GMT
#14
If you can manage that it’s great, and props to you guys. Just largely kids these days don’t have the (forced) skills I did.

I had to fucking master the keyboard at a young age, all our social communications were done that way. There was no VoIP. If you want to communicate, learn to type.

Which helps greatly in playing BW or RTS, where keyboard chops are crucial.

The coming generation, they don’t have those chops because they don’t need to. Just how it is. My little sister, with a 15 year gap can’t type for shit, doesn’t need to with modern technology. She can crack maybe 40 words a minute on a good day, I’ve dropped from my 140 peak but can still coast on 120.

I could artificially force my kid to get good at these things but why? What’s he getting from it?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4329 Posts
January 21 2020 04:47 GMT
#15
It's better if they don't start.
If they're going to play games let them play games their friends play, so they can socialise around that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4001 Posts
January 21 2020 07:43 GMT
#16
my 10yo daugther calls it "dad plays his monsters game" and laughs at me to her friends while playing roblox on her ipad. I'm not sure this is a bad thing though.
Drone is a way of living
ajmbek
Profile Joined November 2008
Italy460 Posts
January 21 2020 14:41 GMT
#17
you win, best trolling of 2020
Sic iter ad astra
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
January 21 2020 14:52 GMT
#18
On January 21 2020 04:45 Hatchet_man wrote:
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[image loading]

4yo girl trying to play terran campaign. Has about 4 apm.
At the moment she is stuck on a mission where you need to be alive for 30 minutes, because she refuses to defend and sends all her army to attack zergs.
Biggest problem is that she can't read and count numbers, so it's very hard to teach her what to build when.

I laughed. Can't teach a BO without knowing how to read and count numbers. Reminds me of when I tried to teach my little one to play on my PC. His hand could not reach the buttons on the mouse.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25075 Posts
January 21 2020 15:11 GMT
#19
On January 21 2020 23:52 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2020 04:45 Hatchet_man wrote:
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[image loading]

4yo girl trying to play terran campaign. Has about 4 apm.
At the moment she is stuck on a mission where you need to be alive for 30 minutes, because she refuses to defend and sends all her army to attack zergs.
Biggest problem is that she can't read and count numbers, so it's very hard to teach her what to build when.

I laughed. Can't teach a BO without knowing how to read and count numbers. Reminds me of when I tried to teach my little one to play on my PC. His hand could not reach the buttons on the mouse.

My little one has issues in that he’s a southpaw and my mouse is awkward.

He’s pretty enthused about getting to grips with a computer in general though, bit of a novelty really for him so that’ll be fun moving forward. Plus he likes watching it with me when tournaments are on although sadly he prefers the ‘bug guys’ to my beloved Protoss.

Amongst other obstacles his mother is not a huge fan of Starcraft as our time together coincided with me being borderline obsessed with it :p , but I’ve sold it as an educational tool

I reluctantly was dragged to play Fortnite with him so I figure he owes me now, although it was pretty fun. Is Coop mode In SC2 any good for anyone who’s tried it?

'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 21 2020 20:11 GMT
#20
On January 21 2020 07:14 brickrd wrote:
the idea of forcing children to play bw is bizarre and should be openly laughed at, let kids choose what they like instead of trying to make them play a 30 year old game none of their friends will be playing

I agree that they shouldn't be forced to play something they don't want to. Conversely, some kids might learn to play the game because they see it as spending fun time with daddy. Different strokes for different folks after all.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
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