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On July 23 2018 20:53 404AlphaSquad wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2018 05:00 kaboombaby wrote:
I don't know why certain people in the community cry "get the fuck out" so readily. Get used to it. You are writing in a BW forum, there is not much else to expect. If you want cuddles go play another more casual game.
That's a pretty terrible attitude to have.
There are plenty of players out there that want to help others improve because when others improve, we strive to get improve ourselves.
There shouldn't be an expectation of "It's BW so GTFO". People have been playing chess for hundreds of years and yet down the road from me you can go and learn chess rather than "Chess is for hardcore nerds gtfo" They invite anyone and everyone to play and learn.
In the end, it doesn't matter about your skill level or your MMR or your league, there's nothing wrong with being below 1500mmr.
Play the game, have fun and enjoy yourself and improve together.
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Find a community. Perhaps, join the CPL league -- there's pretty good coaches there who can help guide you and do replay analysis directly with you.
The "community" aspect of that league is huge. I'm friends with many of the CPL folks who are ranging from 1300-1800 (right in your range). They all practice together and help each other improve.
I would suggest you look into a league like this. I've seen, first hand, these guys growing from 1300 to 1400 to 1500 and so on. Some of them, slowly, but steadily, are in the 1700 range nowadays and still improving.
Also, just forget about MMR for a moment. If you find a community like this and just practice with similar folks, you will improve (as long as you put in the work and do analysis). Also, you'll have fun in the process. If I recall, a lot of these guys just did private practice/learning sessions, and none of them laddered for months and months. The next time they went to ladder, they cruised through 1500 and were able to see the fruits of their labor. Another key piece is, the league sets up you up against other opponents in team matches, so you're incentivized to improve and be motivated.
I highly advise this route. And if a "big" community like this isn't your cup of tea, that's fine, but I would still say you should find someone who can help you with analysis/build orders/etc.
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My opinion may not be perceived well by some others in this thread but I do not like people who play 15 games off a 1500 account to get their 15-0, 14-1 record just to reset and do it all over. I honestly think those people have some sort of superiority complex issue, it will also never improve you as a player and is overall just a scummy way to play the ladder.
On the other hand, many people here are crying about not advancing on the ladder due to smurfs and what not. Which I do get but if you’re playing ladder which is meant to be competitive and if you’re trying to improve your sc abilities, isn’t it kind of nice to play someone higher than your skill to get a better grasp on what strategies you are weak against and this way you can view replays of “smurfs” beating you and try to improve your game.
I remember Jaedong saying in an interview once he became an official pro that he would get owned like 1-12 in practice games but he honestly enjoyed it because he felt this way was the best way to view his mistakes more clearly and improve his game
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On July 23 2018 22:08 inFeZa wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2018 20:53 404AlphaSquad wrote:On July 19 2018 05:00 kaboombaby wrote:
I don't know why certain people in the community cry "get the fuck out" so readily. Get used to it. You are writing in a BW forum, there is not much else to expect. If you want cuddles go play another more casual game. That's a pretty terrible attitude to have. There are plenty of players out there that want to help others improve because when others improve, we strive to get improve ourselves. There shouldn't be an expectation of "It's BW so GTFO". People have been playing chess for hundreds of years and yet down the road from me you can go and learn chess rather than "Chess is for hardcore nerds gtfo" They invite anyone and everyone to play and learn. In the end, it doesn't matter about your skill level or your MMR or your league, there's nothing wrong with being below 1500mmr. Play the game, have fun and enjoy yourself and improve together.
Generally my attitude towards learning BW is playing against slightly better opponents. You want a fighting chance but you "want" to be punished for your mistakes to learn from them.
However this is generally not the advice I see in this forum. Everyone here is basically just telling newcomers to "git gud or GTFO" and that it is the only way to play and that everybody went through that, so new players should too.
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Should is a stupid way to put it. We’ve complained about the inadequate match maker but failing a change the only answer that anyone COULD give is deal with losses or don’t deal with them. At bottom this thread only exists to give the fragile amongst us a chance to pout and stomp their feet... or be given practical advice on how to improve, which leads to arguments with the aforementioned fragiles.
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